Joe Mazzulla Thread, Head Coach – (Contract Extension)

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[playa-hater]

He is an odd duck. But he does have the highest winning % of any NBA coach of all time. I'm OK with it.

For those posters who want to give Joe credit for having the highest winning percentage as proof that he is a good coach. What will they possibly say if and when we are top ten lottery team?

[Bad-Thoma]

He is an odd duck. But he does have the highest winning % of any NBA coach of all time. I'm OK with it.

For those posters who want to give Joe credit for having the highest winning percentage as proof that he is a good coach. What will they possibly say if and when we are top ten lottery team?

Well the opposite also counts, we have posters who will give him no credit for our success and will be happy to give him massive credit if we are bad.

Answer: Context matters for both.

[Fierce1]

Cs give Joe a multi-year extension and suddenly the Celtics are a top 10 lottery team?

Guess some things never change.

[strokerace]

He is an odd duck. But he does have the highest winning % of any NBA coach of all time. I'm OK with it.

The winning % likely has more to do with the rosters that he was given by BS and company. But if Brad believes in him, I will too for the time being. Coaches contracts don't mean anything long term.

[Fierce1]

He is an odd duck. But he does have the highest winning % of any NBA coach of all time. I'm OK with it.

The winning % likely has more to do with the rosters that he was given by BS and company. But if Brad believes in him, I will too for the time being. Coaches contracts don't mean anything long term.

True!

How many coaches are the Suns paying right now?

[playa-hater]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

[Fencer reregistered]

In the Chris Boucher thread, Hal posted a clip of Joe's attempt to block a shot during a timeout.

What I hadn't recalled is that this occured with 2:54 remaining and the Celtics up by 18.

[Fencer reregistered]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

How many games do you think the Celtics would have lost that postseason if they'd had at least an average coach?

[Fierce1]

It's naive to think that having the best coach will automatically yield the best results.

The goal is not to have the best coach.

What a championship team needs is a coach that the players respect and listen to.

We already saw this with Adrian Griffin in 2024.

Bucks were playing well and the #2 seed.
But Giannis didn't want Griffin, so the Bucks fired him.

And we all know what happened to the Bucks after Doc took over.

Or how about the case of Taylor Jenkins.

One poster here kept saying how he wished the Cs had a coach like Jenkins, who played young guys like Jaylen Wells.

Jenkins also ended up getting fired.

With players, you need the best players to win a championship.

As for the coach, you need a coach who the best players can work with.

[Floody100]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

Looking forward to the inevitable meltdowns over the next couple of years by you

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

Considering how easy it is to operate a water pump I can only interpret this as you having complete confidence in Joe Mazzulla this coming season.

[playa-hater]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

Looking forward to the inevitable meltdowns over the next couple of years by you

Wow, right on queue ... I was guessing you come out of the shadows for this one.

[Bad-Thoma]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

64-18 in the regular season in the championship run, 16-3 in the playoffs. Playa, I like you bro, but I have no idea how you can say something so ridiculous with such confidence. If he was a bad coach that would mean he overachieved during that run, unless you think they should have gone 16-0 which no team has ever done. Only 3 teams in history have had a better playoff record than the championship run under Joe.

Also, if Joe is that bad of a coach and they've won 74% of their regular season games under him that would also logically mean he is an overachiever. He's not going to keep the best winning percentage of all time, the cba isn't going to let any coach do that as you can't keep a dynasty together long enough for that to happen unless a coach somehow hops from best team to best team.

Is he a great coach? I fully support having him as a coach and I fully support extending him but I haven't claimed that and I haven't seen anyone else claim it either (someone probably has somewhere but I haven't seen it). We don't have that information yet as the sample size isn't huge and has only included having a really good talent pool. We'll have a better picture after this season but it won't be only tied to the record, we all know this season has a lot of question marks tied to it and while I'm (mostly) not one of them plenty of people think we'd be better served by winning as few games as possible.

At the minimum Joe has been able to succeed with the talent he landed with as an extremely young NBA coach. 3 seasons, won 74% of their games which is just ridiculous, youngest coach ever to win a championship. Have issues with some coaching choices? Fine, that's always going to be the case with any coach. Is Joe a one trick pony with the 3pt barrage offense? We'll see but we've had the top offensive rating 2 seasons in a row so it's hard to argue that it's been the wrong choice so far. Defensively we've had a top 3 defensive rating in all 3 seasons.

Is Joe a great coach? Arguable, probably always will be as even Phil Jackson gets discredited because he had MJ and Kobe, etc. We certainly don't have the sample size to call Joe great. Underachiever or even bad coach though?



I made sure to throw in a silly gif for you playa, I know how much joy they bring you.

[playa-hater]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

Considering how easy it is to operate a water pump I can only interpret this as you having complete confidence in Joe Mazzulla this coming season.

Well, it's a bit of a play on words but flowing water it's not the quite the same as pumped water.. But it really doesn't matter. The only thing that will matter strongly for me. This year is the play and improvement of our younger players.

I also do not care to see Boston win games, but rather see them play the right way and show progress in that regard.
And since we have many younger players on similar levels, I would hope the rotation be at least ten deep...

Maybe because I am still a Celtic junkie. I will be watching closely this year as much as any other year that we were in contention. But since winning and losing isn't a priority. In this situation, I will probably have a lot more fun compared to previous years.

[playa-hater]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

64-18 in the regular season in the championship run, 16-3 in the playoffs. Playa, I like you bro, but I have no idea how you can say something so ridiculous with such confidence. If he was a bad coach that would mean he overachieved during that run, unless you think they should have gone 16-0 which no team has ever done. Only 3 teams in history have had a better playoff record than the championship run under Joe.

Also, if Joe is that bad of a coach and they've won 74% of their regular season games under him that would also logically mean he is an overachiever. He's not going to keep the best winning percentage of all time, the cba isn't going to let any coach do that as you can't keep a dynasty together long enough for that to happen unless a coach somehow hops from best team to best team.

Is he a great coach? I fully support having him as a coach and I fully support extending him but I haven't claimed that and I haven't seen anyone else claim it either (someone probably has somewhere but I haven't seen it). We don't have that information yet as the sample size isn't huge and has only included having a really good talent pool. We'll have a better picture after this season but it won't be only tied to the record, we all know this season has a lot of question marks tied to it and while I'm (mostly) not one of them plenty of people think we'd be better served by winning as few games as possible.

At the minimum Joe has been able to succeed with the talent he landed with as an extremely young NBA coach. 3 seasons, won 74% of their games which is just ridiculous, youngest coach ever to win a championship. Have issues with some coaching choices? Fine, that's always going to be the case with any coach. Is Joe a one trick pony with the 3pt barrage offense? We'll see but we've had the top offensive rating 2 seasons in a row so it's hard to argue that it's been the wrong choice so far. Defensively we've had a top 3 defensive rating in all 3 seasons.

Is Joe a great coach? Arguable, probably always will be as even Phil Jackson gets discredited because he had MJ and Kobe, etc. We certainly don't have the sample size to call Joe great. Underachiever or even bad coach though?



I made sure to throw in a silly gif for you playa, I know how much joy they bring you.

I am literally up in a car but for a very rare time I am not driving.. I look on my phone and what do I see... Paragraphs after paragraphs

Couldn't you just send me a g I f instead

[playa-hater]

Team talent + Joe = top 10... Unless Joe for the 1st time ever, over achieves....then we get the play-in????

What never changes are the same 2 or 3 posters that can't recognize that Joe is a career underachiever. And that even includes his championship run in which he had a severe talent advantage.

Asking Joe to coach upwards is like asking water to flow upwards..

64-18 in the regular season in the championship run, 16-3 in the playoffs. Playa, I like you bro, but I have no idea how you can say something so ridiculous with such confidence. If he was a bad coach that would mean he overachieved during that run, unless you think they should have gone 16-0 which no team has ever done. Only 3 teams in history have had a better playoff record than the championship run under Joe.

Also, if Joe is that bad of a coach and they've won 74% of their regular season games under him that would also logically mean he is an overachiever. He's not going to keep the best winning percentage of all time, the cba isn't going to let any coach do that as you can't keep a dynasty together long enough for that to happen unless a coach somehow hops from best team to best team.

Is he a great coach? I fully support having him as a coach and I fully support extending him but I haven't claimed that and I haven't seen anyone else claim it either (someone probably has somewhere but I haven't seen it). We don't have that information yet as the sample size isn't huge and has only included having a really good talent pool. We'll have a better picture after this season but it won't be only tied to the record, we all know this season has a lot of question marks tied to it and while I'm (mostly) not one of them plenty of people think we'd be better served by winning as few games as possible.

At the minimum Joe has been able to succeed with the talent he landed with as an extremely young NBA coach. 3 seasons, won 74% of their games which is just ridiculous, youngest coach ever to win a championship. Have issues with some coaching choices? Fine, that's always going to be the case with any coach. Is Joe a one trick pony with the 3pt barrage offense? We'll see but we've had the top offensive rating 2 seasons in a row so it's hard to argue that it's been the wrong choice so far. Defensively we've had a top 3 defensive rating in all 3 seasons.

Is Joe a great coach? Arguable, probably always will be as even Phil Jackson gets discredited because he had MJ and Kobe, etc. We certainly don't have the sample size to call Joe great. Underachiever or even bad coach though?



I made sure to throw in a silly gif for you playa, I know how much joy they bring you.

Sorry for a second post, but since I had time to read some of these paragraphs, I wanted to make a few points. I don't believe even in the heat of battle. Have I ever called joke the worst coach.. And he may not even be a bad coach. Unless of course, I am comparing him to the other playoff, contending coaches.

As for the year we won the championship, Joel certainly didn't knock us off the rails but I also feel the talent was so deep with us. You could almost put the team on auto pilot and we would get the same results. Again trying to avoid the same redundant debate, but even doc. Rivers was considered a great coach when he won with boston and yet has proven to be a quite bad to horrible coach every other situation.

I of course. Could go on but one, This is the off-season and 2. Just about everyone knows, all of my Debate ideas against oe. No need to regurgitate them now..

And for the record, despite you being on the opposing side of this debate, I have always liked you because you can have a clean argument and not get emotionally detached like a few others..

And your GIF's are certainly A Nice upgrade to most of us..

[phincsfan]

He better learn that square pegs go in square holes.

[Fierce1]

He better learn that square pegs go in square holes.

Maybe Joe is an improvise kind of guy.

If he has a square peg and he wants it to go in a round hole, Joe would just use a jigsaw to make the round hole become a square hole.

[phincsfan]

He better learn that square pegs go in square holes.

Maybe Joe is an improvise kind of guy.

If he has a square peg and he wants it to go in a round hole, Joe would just use a jigsaw to make the round hole become a square hole.

If that happens, that'll mean he's playing Tillman more than he should be