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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#21 » by Mr Peanut » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:21 am

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Mr Peanut wrote:We went 30-20 over our last 50 games off the season, which extrapolates to 49 wins over an 82 game season. And that was all without Ivey, and Ausar on a minutes restriction for most of it.

Off-season:
Ivey > Schroder
Robinson = Beasley (probably an edge to Beasley, but who knows if he would've been able to put in another >300 3PM season if he returned)
LeVert > THJ

Plus another season of internal development for the young guys. Presuming reasonable health I think 50 wins should be the minimum target.


Ivey was having a nice season and was definitely showing improvement. But the fact is, we finished as strong as we did because of Ivey's injury, not in spite of it. Without Ivey's injury, Ausar doesn't move into the starting lineup, which was huge. And without Ivey's injury, we don't pick up Schroder, who provided things to the team that Ivey was not (yet) capable of. We became a better team with the injury.

This is not to say that Ivey is a detriment to the team. Not at all. And his potential is great - here's hoping he really blossoms into an undisputed #2 this season while evolving his floor general capabilities, as well. Ivey is not as good a player as Schroder as of last season. But if he becomes as good or better this season, 50 could be possible.

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Fair comments. Although I suspect if Ivey wasn't injured then Ausar would have entered the starting lineup eventually in place of THJ.

My Ivey > Schroder point was more that I expect Ivey to be better this upcoming season than what Schroder was last season. In the 5 games leading up to being injured Ivey was averaging 19.2/4.2/3.0 on 60/62/75 splits and was really coming into his own. If he can shake off the injury rust early and continue his trajectory of development then we should expect big things.
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#22 » by breezypeezy » Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:53 am

I'm definitely a "Over" for Pistons 44.5 wins.

I see Cade leading us as a top 4 team in the East with 50+ wins.
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#23 » by BSD » Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:45 am

Canadafan wrote:According to this we would be 5th seed behind Cavs Knicks Magic Hawks
which is based I think
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#24 » by Canadafan » Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:18 am

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Canadafan wrote:According to this we would be 5th seed behind Cavs Knicks Magic Hawks
which is based I think


I dunno, I'd bet big bucks we snatch at least the 4seed
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#25 » by Kalamazoo317 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:11 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:My Ivey > Schroder point was more that I expect Ivey to be better this upcoming season than what Schroder was last season. In the 5 games leading up to being injured Ivey was averaging 19.2/4.2/3.0 on 60/62/75 splits and was really coming into his own. If he can shake off the injury rust early and continue his trajectory of development then we should expect big things.


I think he'll be a better scorer than Schroder for sure. Big questions are whether he can protect the ball as well as Schroder and play defense in the same stratosphere as Schroder.
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#28 » by MotownMadness » Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:44 pm

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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#29 » by Snakebites » Tue Aug 19, 2025 8:27 pm

So much depends on the young core this year. I loved the season, but by and large our improvement was driven by Cade's emergeance and the addition of well-selected veteran players. Some may call that reductive, but I think Duren is still a questionmark, Ausar and Holland are figuring out how to become viable in half court offense, and Ivey obviously missed a ton of time.

Cade was really the only young guy we had who showed particualrly dramatic improvement last year. Which is somewhat fitting- he was not only our most talented player but also (other than Stew) the one who had been in the league the longest. He also was playing in his second largely uninterrupted season in a row, something Ausar and Ivey cannot claim.

This needs to be the season that other young guys emerge and contribute. It remains to be seen whether we can expect the same contribution from THIS group of veterans that we got from our vets last year. The young guys need to fill in that gap and then some if we want to improve.

Sticking with my previous impulsive prediction, but this is definitely what it is contingent on.
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Re: Vegas win totals - Pistons 44.5 

Post#30 » by BSD » Sat Aug 30, 2025 4:23 am

Canadafan wrote:
BSD wrote:
Canadafan wrote:According to this we would be 5th seed behind Cavs Knicks Magic Hawks
which is based I think


I dunno, I'd bet big bucks we snatch at least the 4seed

Barring a major injury, I like our chances to secure a top-6 seed. A lot of it is luck, though. Look at Cleveland—they seem cursed with injuries again. And Atlanta's inconsistency could definitely play to our advantage.

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