Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN**

mihaic · Post #1361 » by **mihaic** » Sat Aug 9, 2025 3:11 pm

Was just thinking about Porzingis a while ago. It was a failure for the Celts. They didn't need him for their one championship .

Tor_Raps · Post #1362 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sat Aug 9, 2025 4:49 pm

mihaic wrote:Was just thinking about Porzingis a while ago. It was a failure for the Celts. They didn't need him for their one championship .

You realize the Celtics got TWO 1st round picks just to take Porzingis right? Then they used those 1st round picks to get Jrue. It was a masterclass in asset management.

Kurtz · Post #1363 » by **Kurtz** » Sat Aug 9, 2025 7:42 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:After the Raptors, the Hawks are the team I'm most interested in this season.

For all the crap dumped on Raptors for Ingram injury risks, the Hawks season is riding on Porzingis and Jalen Johnson. Neither make BI look like Cal Ripken Jr, but I’m more comfortable riding with BI over either of the other two just for the post NOP bounce I expect from BI.

Trae young situation is going to be very interesting.

They're loaded with talent. Just going to come down to health and chemistry, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them come out of the East this year with how open it is.

ImaBeatDatAzz · Post #1364 » by **ImaBeatDatAzz** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:05 am

I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

Van_Trump · Post #1365 » by **Van_Trump** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:24 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/bulls-trade-pitch-sends-90-204447179.html

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #1366 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:17 pm

Van_Trump wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/bulls-trade-pitch-sends-90-204447179.html

In the bright side they called rj a potential star

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #1367 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:55 pm

*My bad, wrong Williams. Yup, eww.

Jerry Lucas · Post #1368 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:11 pm

Van_Trump wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/bulls-trade-pitch-sends-90-204447179.html

This link is hilarious. Some dude named Joe Mayo aggregated this mock trade from an article written by this other guy I've never heard of named Mark Morales-Smith.

And the trade idea itself was basically stolen from Chris Herring's idea in this ESPN article pre-2025 draft: (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45545025/nba-draft-2025-five-trades-shake-first-round), except since the 2025 draft has now passed, that Morales-Smith guy just changed it from the "#12 pick" to just a "first round pick".

Raptorfan2012 · Post #1369 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:30 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

Any trade involving RJ is to shed salary and maybe get back role in players; basically breaking his contract into smaller pieces. No team is going to give us an all-star player or top prospect.

Kingsway_fan · Post #1370 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:32 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

Any trade involving RJ is to shed salary and maybe get back role in players; basically breaking his contract into smaller pieces. No team is going to give us an all-star player or top prospect.

No need to trade him. And we already have plenty of "smaller pieces'....

douggood · Post #1371 » by **douggood** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:49 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

Any trade involving RJ is to shed salary and maybe get back role in players; basically breaking his contract into smaller pieces. No team is going to give us an all-star player or top prospect.

opposite, use RJ + picks/players to consolidate.

Tor_Raps · Post #1372 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:09 pm

douggood wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:I saw a potential interest.. apparently we’re looking at Patrick Williams for RJ.. ew

Any trade involving RJ is to shed salary and maybe get back role in players; basically breaking his contract into smaller pieces. No team is going to give us an all-star player or top prospect.

opposite, use RJ + picks/players to consolidate.

IQ + RJ + Dick + filler for an allstar calibre PG like Trae + their unwanted contract(s) was the dream heading into this offseason. Sadly all the movement that was rumored hasn't happened.

Trae/ Shead
Ochai/ Walter
Ingram/ Battle
Barnes/ CMB/ Mogbo
Poeltl/ Mamu/ Mogbo

ForeverTFC · Post #1373 » by **ForeverTFC** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:34 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
mihaic wrote:Was just thinking about Porzingis a while ago. It was a failure for the Celts. They didn't need him for their one championship .

You realize the Celtics got TWO 1st round picks just to take Porzingis right? Then they used those 1st round picks to get Jrue. It was a masterclass in asset management.

They got those picks for Smart.

Tor_Raps · Post #1374 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:56 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
mihaic wrote:Was just thinking about Porzingis a while ago. It was a failure for the Celts. They didn't need him for their one championship .

You realize the Celtics got TWO 1st round picks just to take Porzingis right? Then they used those 1st round picks to get Jrue. It was a masterclass in asset management.

They got those picks for Smart.

They got those picks + Porzingis for Smart. Then they got a rich man's version of Smart in Jrue for those picks and 2 guys that can never stay healthy. My point remains

NotMyKawhi · Post #1375 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:10 pm

Trae Young is the move

JB7 · Post #1376 » by **JB7** » Mon Aug 11, 2025 12:20 am

In terms of the Trae discussion, they can’t take on Trae’s salary demands for a max contract, without moving Barnes or BI.

I think the consolidation play could be to target Markkanen. Gives them a #1 scoring option.

Could see Ingram to Cavs, Garland to Jazz and Markkanen to Raps, with additional contract filler to Jazz from the Raps, like Ochai and Mogbo at a minimum.

CazOnReal · Post #1377 » by **CazOnReal** » Mon Aug 11, 2025 12:40 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
You realize the Celtics got TWO 1st round picks just to take Porzingis right? Then they used those 1st round picks to get Jrue. It was a masterclass in asset management.

They got those picks for Smart.

They got those picks + Porzingis for Smart. Then they got a rich man's version of Smart in Jrue for those picks and 2 guys that can never stay healthy. My point remains

If you ignore the other pieces the Celtics gave up in that trade like Brogdon coming off of a 6th Man of the Year season or Robert Williams in the "Smart yo Jrue" timeline, sure.

Tor_Raps · Post #1378 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Aug 11, 2025 12:43 am

CazOnReal wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
They got those picks for Smart.

They got those picks + Porzingis for Smart. Then they got a rich man's version of Smart in Jrue for those picks and 2 guys that can never stay healthy. My point remains

If you ignore the other pieces the Celtics gave up in that trade like Brogdon coming off of a 6th Man of the Year season or Robert Williams in the "Smart yo Jrue" timeline, sure.

I mentioned them as the "guys who couldnt stay healthy"

It was a masterclass of using your assets to increase the ceiling of your team dramatically. They didnt even have Porzingis healthy and beat down teams that year.

Godaddycurse · Post #1379 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Aug 11, 2025 1:25 am

JB7 wrote:In terms of the Trae discussion, they can’t take on Trae’s salary demands for a max contract, without moving Barnes or BI.

I think the consolidation play could be to target Markkanen. Gives them a #1 scoring option.

Could see Ingram to Cavs, Garland to Jazz and Markkanen to Raps, with additional contract filler to Jazz from the Raps, like Ochai and Mogbo at a minimum.

Markkanen is not a#1 scoring option. he's more of a 2nd/3rd option. He is great off ball but cant be counted on to create.

mihaic · Post #1380 » by **mihaic** » Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:12 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
mihaic wrote:Was just thinking about Porzingis a while ago. It was a failure for the Celts. They didn't need him for their one championship .

You realize the Celtics got TWO 1st round picks just to take Porzingis right? Then they used those 1st round picks to get Jrue. It was a masterclass in asset management.

I forgot about the picks, I thought it was for Marcus Smart.