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Wow, how are jays up 4 games after today? After the allstar break, they were only 2 up, with the debacle against Baltimore,Oakland k.c and dodgers..amazing
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Boogie! wrote:PushDaRock wrote:Hoffman had 5 walks alone today, he had 11 walks the entire season prior to today. I guess we can overreact or just chalk it up to an anomaly outing.
Yeah anomaly, facing a potential World Series contender in a pennant race. The anomaly is called choking. Unclutch
But he got the W, so how did he choke?

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If you look at Hoffman's body language he even looks nervous he knows his pitches are not good enough
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Next game is at home on primetime TBS vs the Cubs

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rapz101 wrote:Just logged in to say Jeff Hoffman needs to go. That is all.
This team needed another closer at the deadline. You see how Duran has been Lights Out and elite in Philadelphia, and there is no reason why the Jays could not match the offer the Phillies gave the Twins. 2 more years of control left for Duran, and the Phillies did not even trade their two top prospects for him. Duran looks and acts like a true Closer. He comes in and does not play around with hitters like Hoffman, hoping they would chase his pitches out of the Strike Zone.
The confidence you get from an elite closer like Duran is immeasurable for a team. A missed opportunity for this front office. I am sorry, but I am getting the same Romano vibes after his excellent first month from Hoffman. Who actually trusts this guy to get the job done when it counts? He might get the job done barely while looking nervous, after putting runners on and causing stress to everyone in the process.
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Allowing 13 walks (albeit a few were intentional) and 10 hits yet holding the Dodgers to 4 runs is pretty crazy lol. Needed that win and somehow we got it.

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Boogie! wrote:Pillar dsaid Hoffman best closers in the al stfu man
Pillar is our Alvin Williams. Hard to listen to him.
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PushDaRock wrote:Hoffman had 5 walks alone today, he had 11 walks the entire season prior to today. I guess we can overreact or just chalk it up to an anomaly outing.
He also hadn’t pitched in quite a while.
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My problem here is that Hoffman is looking less and less like a viable high leverage option as he did in April.
His performance in the 9th was very predictable. Hoffman quite likely shouldn't be closing games but we have little choice now.
His performance in the 9th was very predictable. Hoffman quite likely shouldn't be closing games but we have little choice now.
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dh_45 wrote:If you look at Hoffman's body language he even looks nervous he knows his pitches are not good enough
yeah the 12.17 K/9 clearly shows his stuff sucks
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Louis Varland has better closer stuff than Hoffman
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Somehow still the best record in the AL, and a 4 game lead in the East
Clutch win today!
Clutch win today!
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vaff87 wrote:PushDaRock wrote:Hoffman had 5 walks alone today, he had 11 walks the entire season prior to today. I guess we can overreact or just chalk it up to an anomaly outing.
He also hadn’t pitched in quite a while.
Yea they need to stop letting him get rusty, it clearly messes with him. I don't know what the stats are but I feel like the last few times he had 4+ days of rest he struggled.
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Maybe Hoffman will reinjure that shoulder and we won't need to see him rest of this season
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PushDaRock wrote:dh_45 wrote:If you look at Hoffman's body language he even looks nervous he knows his pitches are not good enough
yeah the 12.17 K/9 clearly shows his stuff sucks
I want him to figure it out as much as anyone but he is having a near replacement level player season as our closer.
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Chris7711 wrote:Wow, how are jays up 4 games after today? After the allstar break, they were only 2 up, with the debacle against Baltimore,Oakland k.c and dodgers..amazing
Jays were still 13-9 post-ASB before winning today. You take winning ~60% of your games any day of the week, especially considering 4 of 7 series have been against teams that are in the playoff hunt.

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Mehar wrote:rapz101 wrote:Just logged in to say Jeff Hoffman needs to go. That is all.
This team needed another closer at the deadline. You see how Duran has been Lights Out and elite in Philadelphia, and there is no reason why the Jays could not match the offer the Phillies gave the Twins. 2 more years of control left for Duran, and the Phillies did not even trade their two top prospects for him. Duran looks and acts like a true Closer. He comes in and does not play around with hitters like Hoffman, hoping they would chase his pitches out of the Strike Zone.
The confidence you get from an elite closer like Duran is immeasurable for a team. A missed opportunity for this front office. I am sorry, but I am getting the same Romano vibes after his excellent first month from Hoffman. Who actually trusts this guy to get the job done when it counts? He might get the job done barely while looking nervous, after putting runners on and causing stress to everyone in the process.
I agree man I have no idea how we sat first in the league, knew pitching was an issue and didn’t go after any of the lights out closers available. Instead they did some bull moneyball **** with Varland and Dominguez. I don’t think Varland is even bad, but Hoffman has not been dominant enough to warrant not addressing his position. Look at the Yankees for example, Devin Williams has been ass so they traded for 2 **** closers. Meanwhile we didn’t even go hard for one. **** **** fisdieuehd
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Mehar wrote:rapz101 wrote:Just logged in to say Jeff Hoffman needs to go. That is all.
This team needed another closer at the deadline. You see how Duran has been Lights Out and elite in Philadelphia, and there is no reason why the Jays could not match the offer the Phillies gave the Twins. 2 more years of control left for Duran, and the Phillies did not even trade their two top prospects for him.
Duran looks and acts like a true Closer. He comes in and does not play around with hitters like Hoffman, hoping they would chase his pitches out of the Strike Zone. The confidence you get from an elite closer like Duran is immeasurable for a team. A missed opportunity for this front office. I am sorry, but I am getting the same Romano vibes after his excellent first month from Hoffman. Who actually trusts this guy to get the job done when it counts? He might get the job done barely while looking nervous, after putting runners on and causing stress to everyone in the process.
Has been missed opportunities every trade deadline..can't forget that year we missed by 1 game with semien having that great year and vlad finished second in mvp. So many blown saves through the season and they didn't fix the pen, but go dumpster diving. We had bo,Lourdes,hernandez and even grichuck had at least 20 hr. That was the year to go all in..so many multi run leads were blown in the 8th,9th innings and we missed by 1 game
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vaff87 wrote:PushDaRock wrote:Hoffman had 5 walks alone today, he had 11 walks the entire season prior to today. I guess we can overreact or just chalk it up to an anomaly outing.
He also hadn’t pitched in quite a while.
Which I think makes a good argument for giving him a clean inning to work with.
That was a tough situation getting thrown in while rusty against 2 elite hitters. I think Freeman in particular just had a great AB.