Hamsterdam (Ex-players, s***posts, beef, etc.) Continued

[god shammgod]

“Frank Ntilikina: 'The NBA is recycling players, it's like a recycling league'”

https://basketnews.com/news-212356-frank-ntilikina-the-nba-is-recycling-players.html

Recycling is generous. Frank was trash.

Least favorite knick of the last 15 years. Mills knew he was unplayable from the minute he showed up in Tarrytown. How often does that happen? The dude averaged 5 points in France the year before was drafted. Just the absolute worst parting gift from Phil. Idk how anyone thought he’d be successful. So much time spent arguing about his +/- in games where’d he score 5 points. Just an awful, awful player and I hope his basketball careers ends terribly.

i remember when clarence gaines was a genius on this board for drafting him lol

[Im Coming Home]

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[jvsimonetti0514]

Recycling is generous. Frank was trash.

Least favorite knick of the last 15 years. Mills knew he was unplayable from the minute he showed up in Tarrytown. How often does that happen? The dude averaged 5 points in France the year before was drafted. Just the absolute worst parting gift from Phil. Idk how anyone thought he’d be successful. So much time spent arguing about his +/- in games where’d he score 5 points. Just an awful, awful player and I hope his basketball careers ends terribly.

i remember when clarence gaines was a genius on this board for drafting him lol

I’ve got so many dumb Frank related memories seared into my brain for some reason. He was getting compared to Kawhi and Giannis on this board at one point. At the same time he was scoring like 5 points in the French second division playoffs playing as a 2 guard. Like clearly an nba point guard would be relegated to playing off ball in a worse league.

Ramon Sessions compared to Kyrie during his first training camp. When it was clear that he was scared to drive into the paint, the Knicks tried to rewire his brain to be more aggressive by flashing different colored lights at him.

I would love to see a deep dive on both the Frank and Knox drafts. Everyone knows that they had Donovan in for a couple work outs but they also had Bam in too. Also what happened with Malik Monk? He had an orange suit liner cuz he was convinced the Knicks were gonna draft. Like how do you work out 2 star players and someone that developed into a solid role player and end up drafting the kid that still can’t average 10 ppg in Europe? Mills is still kicking around MSG, so you’d probably wouldn’t get him to talk but I’m sure there’s a bunch of other front office guys that are retired like Gaines that could give some real good details.

[3toheadmelo]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

[3toheadmelo]

Least favorite knick of the last 15 years. Mills knew he was unplayable from the minute he showed up in Tarrytown. How often does that happen? The dude averaged 5 points in France the year before was drafted. Just the absolute worst parting gift from Phil. Idk how anyone thought he’d be successful. So much time spent arguing about his +/- in games where’d he score 5 points. Just an awful, awful player and I hope his basketball careers ends terribly.

i remember when clarence gaines was a genius on this board for drafting him lol

I’ve got so many dumb Frank related memories seared into my brain for some reason. He was getting compared to Kawhi and Giannis on this board at one point. At the same time he was scoring like 5 points in the French second division playoffs playing as a 2 guard. Like clearly an nba point guard would be relegated to playing off ball in a worse league.

Ramon Sessions compared to Kyrie during his first training camp. When it was clear that he was scared to drive into the paint, the Knicks tried to rewire his brain to be more aggressive by flashing different colored lights at him.

I would love to see a deep dive on both the Frank and Knox drafts. Everyone knows that they had Donovan in for a couple work outs but they also had Bam in too. Also what happened with Malik Monk? He had an orange suit liner cuz he was convinced the Knicks were gonna draft. Like how do you work out 2 star players and someone that developed into a solid role player and end up drafting the kid that still can’t average 10 ppg in Europe? Mills is still kicking around MSG, so you’d probably wouldn’t get him to talk but I’m sure there’s a bunch of other front office guys that are retired like Gaines that could give some real good details.

Frank must’ve had the Darko workout

workout.

[...] [Darko’s agent Marc] Cornstein: A number of guys filtered over to the other gym. Every shot, every move, he just looked phenomenal. Everyone from the Pistons was there. Joe Dumars, [coach] Rick [Carlisle]. Top to bottom, they were all there.

Ford: Darko was just phenomenal. It couldn’t have been more perfect in a certain way. At some point the coaches got involved and asked to see particular things. And Darko couldn’t miss and was aggressive and rose to the moment with the players watching. I was sitting next to (Dumars). He’s not expressive, he plays everything close to the vest. But Darko was just so impressive. It was literally the best workout I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen hundreds and it was the best. When you have a 7-1 kid, who is 17 years old, doing the things he was doing, it was a “wow” moment, especially for a team that needed a big man. There was just a buzz afterward.

Tony Ronzone (Pistons executive, 2001-10): Our guys were like, “Oh my God, look at this guy.” One dribble from the foul line, dunk. Lefty hook. Quick feet. He had great lateral quickness for a big. He had spin moves. It was unbelievable. He was a freak athlete at 17. He runs like a deer. He jumps. You were saying “wow.” You could check off everything on the list.

[...] Cornstein: The Pistons walked away impressed but depressed. They thought when everyone else eventually saw him there would be no way they’d be able to draft Darko.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Woke up today, and remembered Thibs is no longer our coach.

[god shammgod]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

they better be. i can't watch this no more.

[Capn'O]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

[spree8]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

Question is, how are they collecting this data? Are they counting the times where KAT is in drop? Are they counting times where there’s miscommunication between him and his teammates on when to switch and he has to recover because he’s not in proper position to defend 1 on 1? KAT when he picks his man up from the jump on the perimeter is solid.

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Not only that, but you’re not giving up wide open 3’s like we have been with guys fighting thru screens or playing drop. Not to mention, fighting thru screens beats defenders up. Imagine running into guys like Steven Adams 10-15 times per game when you’re not looking… that shyt wears you down over 82 games.

Also, by playing 5 out with the starters (Deuce instead of Hart), KAT is a huge offensive advantage at the 5… shooting a lot more 3’s as a team will give us even more of an advantage too.

People like sham said we couldn’t beat Boston playing like Boston… well, we did… now it’s time to do that all season…

[3toheadmelo]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

This is gonna be a fun year

[3toheadmelo]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

Question is, how are they collecting this data? Are they counting the times where KAT is in drop? Are they counting times where there’s miscommunication between him and his teammates on when to switch and he has to recover because he’s not in proper position to defend 1 on 1? KAT when he picks his man up from the jump on the perimeter is solid.

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Not only that, but you’re not giving up wide open 3’s like we have been with guys fighting thru screens or playing drop. Not to mention, fighting thru screens beats defenders up. Imagine running into guys like Steven Adams 10-15 times per game when you’re not looking… that shyt wears you down over 82 games.

Also, by playing 5 out with the starters (Deuce instead of Hart), KAT is a huge offensive advantage at the 5… shooting a lot more 3’s as a team will give us even more of an advantage too.

People like sham said we couldn’t beat Boston playing like Boston… well, we did… now it’s time to do that all season…

I disagree heavily. There’s a bunch of times he wasn’t in drop that he got exposed on an island. So the eye test matches the metrics. Look we don’t need to act like KAT is a good defender, he’s just terrible lol what are we doing here spree

You said the other day that we mainly beat Boston because they were injured, not because we played 5 out

[spree8]

Don’t know where else to put this.. soo putting it here lol

Don’t really understand why people want KAT to switch so much when he’s pretty awful in defending the perimeter. And this also shows he’s the worst in the league at protecting the rim, hence why the Knicks are committed to playing him at the 4.

Question is, how are they collecting this data? Are they counting the times where KAT is in drop? Are they counting times where there’s miscommunication between him and his teammates on when to switch and he has to recover because he’s not in proper position to defend 1 on 1? KAT when he picks his man up from the jump on the perimeter is solid.

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Not only that, but you’re not giving up wide open 3’s like we have been with guys fighting thru screens or playing drop. Not to mention, fighting thru screens beats defenders up. Imagine running into guys like Steven Adams 10-15 times per game when you’re not looking… that shyt wears you down over 82 games.

Also, by playing 5 out with the starters (Deuce instead of Hart), KAT is a huge offensive advantage at the 5… shooting a lot more 3’s as a team will give us even more of an advantage too.

People like sham said we couldn’t beat Boston playing like Boston… well, we did… now it’s time to do that all season…

I disagree heavily. There’s a bunch of times he wasn’t in drop that he got exposed on an island. So the eye test matches the metrics. Look we don’t need to act like KAT is a good defender, he’s just terrible lol what are we doing here spree

You said the other day that we mainly beat Boston because they were injured, not because we played 5 out

Bro thats such a reach. I didn’t say we beat Boston because they were injured. That’s a massive oversimplification and misrepresentation. Not only that, but beating them at their own game doesn’t get tossed in the garbage because we beat a bit easier version of them. Come on lol… it was the very version people made the comment about.

Never said he was Scottie Pippen on defense, but he’s not inept either.. passes most peoples eye test here. He’s solid enough for us to play him at the 5 with the right schemes and benefits us greatly on offense at the 5 as well.

What I saw all season was criminal use of him and others on both sides of the ball. Putting KAT at the 4 and not maximizing the advantages he gives us is more of the same Thibs logic that will prevent us from winning a title…

[god shammgod]

you're not worst in the league at rim protection by accident and gobert is not best by accident. and you're not winning a title with the worst rim defending center in the league. let's be serious.

[spree8]

you're not worst in the league at rim protection by accident and gobert is not best by accident. and you're not winning a title with the worst rim defending center in the league. let's be serious.

Melo n Sham gunna spend all season plottin on hate-posting and hate-watching wins

Spoiler:

[jvsimonetti0514]

I thought Kat was mostly fine when he switched against Boston. Tatum did get him a couple times with that in and out dribble but other than that I didn’t think he was that bad that series. He definitely got absolutely demolished when he switched against the pacers. Maybe it had something to do with Boston settling for too many jumpers? Or that their wings aren’t as quick as Haliburton and the rest of the pacers guards?

[Capn'O]

Just gotta keep the Block Ness Monsta's feet in tact.

I thought Kat was mostly fine when he switched against Boston. Tatum did get him a couple times with that in and out dribble but other than that I didn’t think he was that bad that series. He definitely got absolutely demolished when he switched against the pacers. Maybe it had something to do with Boston settling for too many jumpers? Or that their wings aren’t as quick as Haliburton and the rest of the pacers guards?

Pacers cooked him on D. They couldn't guard him either though. I was surprised we didn't spam him more in G6.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Just gotta keep the Block Ness Monsta's feet in tact.

I thought Kat was mostly fine when he switched against Boston. Tatum did get him a couple times with that in and out dribble but other than that I didn’t think he was that bad that series. He definitely got absolutely demolished when he switched against the pacers. Maybe it had something to do with Boston settling for too many jumpers? Or that their wings aren’t as quick as Haliburton and the rest of the pacers guards?

Pacers cooked him on D. They couldn't guard him either though. I was surprised we didn't spam him more in G6.

Kat’s offensive during the playoffs really needs to be talked about more. He had so many big moments and went on so many runs basically by himself that were really impressive. I was very skeptical of the trade when it happened and he really exceeded my expectations. Really interested to see what brown can do for Kat.

[Guano]

Woke up today, and remembered Thibs is no longer our coach.

Derailing the outdoor thread

[Guano]

you're not worst in the league at rim protection by accident and gobert is not best by accident. and you're not winning a title with the worst rim defending center in the league. let's be serious.

Melo n Sham gunna spend all season plottin on hate-posting and hate-watching wins

Spoiler:

Tbf, we've spent the majority of our fandom hate watching this teams. Old habits die hard.

[3toheadmelo]

Question is, how are they collecting this data? Are they counting the times where KAT is in drop? Are they counting times where there’s miscommunication between him and his teammates on when to switch and he has to recover because he’s not in proper position to defend 1 on 1? KAT when he picks his man up from the jump on the perimeter is solid.

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Not only that, but you’re not giving up wide open 3’s like we have been with guys fighting thru screens or playing drop. Not to mention, fighting thru screens beats defenders up. Imagine running into guys like Steven Adams 10-15 times per game when you’re not looking… that shyt wears you down over 82 games.

Also, by playing 5 out with the starters (Deuce instead of Hart), KAT is a huge offensive advantage at the 5… shooting a lot more 3’s as a team will give us even more of an advantage too.

People like sham said we couldn’t beat Boston playing like Boston… well, we did… now it’s time to do that all season…

I disagree heavily. There’s a bunch of times he wasn’t in drop that he got exposed on an island. So the eye test matches the metrics. Look we don’t need to act like KAT is a good defender, he’s just terrible lol what are we doing here spree

You said the other day that we mainly beat Boston because they were injured, not because we played 5 out

Bro thats such a reach. I didn’t say we beat Boston because they were injured. That’s a massive oversimplification and misrepresentation. Not only that, but beating them at their own game doesn’t get tossed in the garbage because we beat a bit easier version of them. Come on lol… it was the very version people made the comment about.

Never said he was Scottie Pippen on defense, but he’s not inept either.. passes most peoples eye test here. He’s solid enough for us to play him at the 5 with the right schemes and benefits us greatly on offense at the 5 as well.

What I saw all season was criminal use of him and others on both sides of the ball. Putting KAT at the 4 and not maximizing the advantages he gives us is more of the same Thibs logic that will prevent us from winning a title…

So you're saying we beat Boston because of Thibs willingess to beat Boston at their own game

Absolute masterclass by Thibs.



But back to your point about KAT at the 4, yeah ima have to disagree there heavily fam. He's absolutely terrible defensively at the 5, no matter what the scheme is. Timberwolves tried all of that and ended up paying a premium for Gobert because of how bad KAT was.