15 Trade Concepts for Toronto’s Core Players (Poeltl, Quickley, Ingram, Barnes, Barrett)

[eitanr]

Been workshopping different trade ideas for Toronto’s main pieces. These aren’t predictions, just realistic or strategically interesting concepts that could make sense for both teams based on fit, cap, and timing.

1. Poeltl → Cavs for Jarrett Allen
Why: Toronto moves off a long-term contract, Cavs get a better playoff fit next to Mobley.
Cap: Salaries close, minor filler may be needed.
Timing: Poeltl trade-eligible Jan 2026.

2. Poeltl → Pacers for Obi Toppin, Jarace Walker
Why: Pacers replace Turner, Raps get spacing at the 4 and an expiring rookie.
Cap: Toronto sheds long-term salary.
Timing: Jan 2026 earliest.

3. Poeltl + Agbaji → Blazers for Robert Williams III, Matisse Thybulle
Why: Blazers add stability at center; Raps get a rim protector and salary flexibility.
Cap: Both Williams and Thybulle could be cheap re-signs or expirings.
Timing: Jan 2026 earliest.

4. Poeltl → Spurs for Harrison Barnes, future protected 1st
Why: Spurs add a passing big to pair with Wemby; Raps clear cap with a vet spacer.
Cap: Significant savings long term.
Timing: Jan 2026 earliest.

5. Quickley → Kings for Keegan Murray, Malik Monk
Why: Kings get a real PG upgrade; Raps get high-upside forward and scoring 6th man.
Cap: Murray RFA rights, Monk expiring.
Timing: 2025-26 season.

6. Ingram → Pistons for Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey
Why: Pistons get a polished scorer; Raps get spacing vet and young guard flyer.
Cap: Both incoming contracts expiring.

7. Ingram → Mavs for Daniel Gafford, PJ Washington, Naji Marshall
Why: Mavs get an offensive engine; Raps add rim protection, a stretch 4, and a solid forward.
Cap: PJ expiring, Gafford long-term affordable.

8. Ingram + Jakobe Walter → Blazers for Jerami Grant, Shaedon Sharpe
Why: Blazers push for playoffs; Raps get 2-way forward and high-upside SG.

9. Ingram + Agbaji → Spurs for Harrison Barnes, Devin Vassell, 1st
Why: Spurs land halfcourt scorer; Raps get 2-way wing, expiring vet, and pick.

10. Barnes → Blazers for Deni Avdija, Scoot Henderson, Matisse Thybulle
Why: Blazers get long-term defensive cornerstone; Raps get PG of future and solid wing.

11. Barnes → Pistons for Tobias Harris, Ausar Thompson, 1st
Why: Pistons add 2nd scorer; Raps reset with elite young 2-way wing.

12. Barnes → Magic for Franz Wagner
Why: Magic add defensive identity; Raps get more likely #1 option with shooting upside.

13. Barnes + Agbaji → Spurs for Stephon Castle, Harrison Barnes, Keldon Johnson
Why: Spurs push now; Raps get lead guard prospect, salary flexibility.

14. Barrett → Suns for Grayson Allen, Nic Richards
Why: Suns add wing creator; Raps get shooting and center depth.

15. Barrett + Agbaji → Bulls for Kevin Huerter, Zach Collins
Why: Bulls get a more ball-dominant guard for a potential post-Giddey lineup; Raps clear salary with two expirings and add spacing/shooting.

[JRoy]

Pass on all the POR deals.

Better to see what we have first.

[Myth]

I think Barnes value is being overrated in the trades he is involved in.

I kind of like trade 3 for the Blazers if Blazers grow doubts about Hansen/Clingan long term. Only reason Blazers don’t do it is if they like who they have and therefore don’t want to add salary to established positions.

[Scoot McGroot]

A big reason Siakam is with Indy is because he felt that playing with Poeltl restricted his game. Can’t imagine Indy pays a premium to acquire him now?

[ChettheJet]

1. How are the Raptors moving off a long contract, is that the Jarrett Allen with 4 more years at $20M?

15. The Bulls just about do it. If they can't trade and won't release Nikola Vucevic then they can move Collins. If they're intent on moving on from Vucevic, NO WAY they do this and have one center in Jalen Smith. They have too many guards as it is so trading Huerter isn't a big problem, he's a very good shooter so I'd rather move Dosunmu who is a better defender.

I'd want Barrett to walk in and start at the SF except their trade of Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro makes them look like idiots since they have Patrick Williams signed ling term. The you add Agbaji who is a bench role player and it's too much. They just don't need 4 SF's

Talent wise, and converting 2 expirings to a single longer term guy makes sense considering they still have 4 expiring guys but all the other reslts don't add up, Bulls have to pass

[MoneyTalks41890]

What about Ingram for Andrew Wiggins, Jovic?

[Godaddycurse]

What about Ingram for Andrew Wiggins, Jovic?

We need Ingrams scoring/creation more imo. Opposite is true for miami, they have enough scoring with herro/powell and need wiggins wing D

[cgf]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

No way Orlando does Franz for Barnes without significant incentives.

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

[Godaddycurse]

A big reason Siakam is with Indy is because he felt that playing with Poeltl restricted his game. Can’t imagine Indy pays a premium to acquire him now?

Well a big reason is he wants to play with Turner and now he's gone..

[Godaddycurse]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

When did OP say Poeltl was All NBa??

[Scoot McGroot]

A big reason Siakam is with Indy is because he felt that playing with Poeltl restricted his game. Can’t imagine Indy pays a premium to acquire him now?

Well a big reason is he wants to play with Turner and now he's gone..

Sure. Then acquire the type of center he wants to play with. If you’re dealing for the guy he asked to be traded away from continuing to playing with, you probably…..have him asking to be traded pretty soon?

[Texas Chuck]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

I mean these values are all over the place. He has Poeltl for Allen straight up but thinks Toronto needs to add Agbaji to get two negative pieces from Portland.

And basically none of these took the other team particularly into account.

I wouldn't take this OP with value this sporadic and assert an overvaluation of a player that he salary dumps in other deals...

[cgf]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

When did OP say Poeltl was All NBa??

I was exaggerating for effect. But these Poeltl evaluations seem crazy to me. Why would anyone give up Allen for him? Or Toppin? Hell Jarace Walker is more interesting to me, and we need another C more than another big wing.

[cgf]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

I mean these values are all over the place. He has Poeltl for Allen straight up but thinks Toronto needs to add Agbaji to get two negative pieces from Portland.

And basically none of these took the other team particularly into account.

I wouldn't take this OP with value this sporadic and assert an overvaluation of a player that he salary dumps in other deals...

Touche The Indy & Cleveland deals prompted my reply before even getting to the Portland one.

[Godaddycurse]

A big reason Siakam is with Indy is because he felt that playing with Poeltl restricted his game. Can’t imagine Indy pays a premium to acquire him now?

Well a big reason is he wants to play with Turner and now he's gone..

Sure. Then acquire the type of center he wants to play with. If you’re dealing for the guy he asked to be traded away from continuing to playing with, you probably…..have him asking to be traded pretty soon?

i dont think him not wanting to play with poeltl is why he asked to be traded. He and Poeltl are good friends. It was more so about the lack of a max offer and Turner being a big bonus that drew him to Indiana. If toronto offered him a max he would've took it

[Godaddycurse]

When did Poeltl become an All NBA guy?

And why is Detroit the team adding to a Barnes - Ausar swap?

When did OP say Poeltl was All NBa??

I was exaggerating for effect. But these Poeltl evaluations seem crazy to me. Why would anyone give up Allen for him? Or Toppin? Hell Jarace Walker is more interesting to me, and we need another C more than another big wing.

I have Poeltl worth more than Toppin/Walker. The latter duo have not proven to be starter worthy while poeltl is a proven top 15 starting C

[Scoot McGroot]

Well a big reason is he wants to play with Turner and now he's gone..

Sure. Then acquire the type of center he wants to play with. If you’re dealing for the guy he asked to be traded away from continuing to playing with, you probably…..have him asking to be traded pretty soon?

i dont think him not wanting to play with poeltl is why he asked to be traded. He and Poeltl are good friends. It was more so about the lack of a max offer and Turner being a big bonus that drew him to Indiana. If toronto offered him a max he would've took it

He had max offers from other teams like Sacramento. He specifically wanted to go to a team where he played with a center that could stretch the perimeter. Reports specifically stated he felt like his game was held back by playing next to Poeltl.

Yes, great friends, for sure. But also their games conflict? They’re fine together. Siakam is just better without him and preferred to play without him?

[chrbal]

First things first, isn’t there already a thread for trying to fix Torontos awful cap situation? (I checked, there is. Both threads are made by the same poster)


Trade values are all over the map. Just dealing with Detroits involvement

6- I don’t see any reason for Detroit to do this. Feels like a sideways move while giving away Ivey

11- I’ll be honest, I first thought Toronto had Harrison Barnes and that the op was out of their mind. Scottie Barnes is talented, but it would be desperate on Detroit s part to do this

Toronto has got to hope for really good luck or enjoy play in tournaments while in cap hell

[Godaddycurse]

Sure. Then acquire the type of center he wants to play with. If you’re dealing for the guy he asked to be traded away from continuing to playing with, you probably…..have him asking to be traded pretty soon?

i dont think him not wanting to play with poeltl is why he asked to be traded. He and Poeltl are good friends. It was more so about the lack of a max offer and Turner being a big bonus that drew him to Indiana. If toronto offered him a max he would've took it

He had max offers from other teams like Sacramento. He specifically wanted to go to a team where he played with a center that could stretch the perimeter. Reports specifically stated he felt like his game was held back by playing next to Poeltl.

Yes, great friends, for sure. But also their games conflict? They’re fine together. Siakam is just better without him and preferred to play without him?

I meant he would take a 5 year max to stay in toronto over other teams. without 5 year max he would prefer Indiana over other teams due to better fit with Turner/better chances of winning.

[cgf]

When did OP say Poeltl was All NBa??

I was exaggerating for effect. But these Poeltl evaluations seem crazy to me. Why would anyone give up Allen for him? Or Toppin? Hell Jarace Walker is more interesting to me, and we need another C more than another big wing.

I have Poeltl worth more than Toppin/Walker. The latter duo have not proven to be starter worthy while poeltl is a proven top 15 starting C

I disagree on that one. I think trade values are more about projecting guys to your team and I see a lot more value out of Obi & Jarace coming off our bench than I do Poeltl giving us protection against Mitch being hurt in the playoffs.

Even off the bench, Obi has proven he can be a difference maker in the playoffs & I’m a big Walker fan. So even for a rebuilding team I’d prefer the two Pacers.

Only scenario where I’d value Poeltl more would be if I had a team that just needed an average center to contend…someone like OKC before they brought in iHart or maybe the current Lakers.


But that’s at least debatable & I know I’m higher on some Indy players than the consensus; starting it off by flipping Poeltl for an allstar Center with the argument that Poeltl is better, otoh, is just wild.