Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26

[fallguy]

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm not saying that Simons won't get traded. I've made posts recently that suggest the opposite.

All I'm saying is that the fact that we haven't had an introductory press conference for him means basically nothing.

Out of like the 100 players who have changed teams this offseason, there's been an introductory presser for what, like 7 or 8 of them?

Respectfully, you've been way behind the obvious on this all offseason. They don't want Simons. They're going to dump him. That's been clear from the moment they acquired him.

It's mind boggling to me there are people that feel otherwise. Celtics have been telling everyone in the world that they don't want Simons and they are trying to move him, right from the instant they traded for him. The only reason they traded for Simons was to get off of Jrue Holiday's long term money.

I get that people want to keep him. By all means, argue the C's should keep him.

But it's so clear they aren't into him.

[Celts17Pride]

Respectfully, you've been way behind the obvious on this all offseason. They don't want Simons. They're going to dump him. That's been clear from the moment they acquired him.

It's mind boggling to me there are people that feel otherwise. Celtics have been telling everyone in the world that they don't want Simons and they are trying to move him, right from the instant they traded for him. The only reason they traded for Simons was to get off of Jrue Holiday's long term money.

I get that people want to keep him. By all means, argue the C's should keep him.

But it's so clear they aren't into him.

Don't know how much clearer it can get.

[Hal14]

It's mind boggling to me there are people that feel otherwise. Celtics have been telling everyone in the world that they don't want Simons and they are trying to move him, right from the instant they traded for him. The only reason they traded for Simons was to get off of Jrue Holiday's long term money.

I get that people want to keep him. By all means, argue the C's should keep him.

But it's so clear they aren't into him.

Don't know how much clearer it can get.

I suppose it could be clearer if ya know, they traded him...or waived him, or bought out his contract..

All we have is rumors from folks like Jake Fischer, Bobby Manning reported that Simons has been in Boston, has met with Celtics brass, has been at the team's facility this summer and we have Brad Stevens who said this from 5:00 - 5:26

Watch on YouTube

Are the Celtics likely trading Simons at some point in the next 12 months? Seems like that is probably gonna happen - yeah.

I don't think anyone is debating that..

[Celts17Pride]

I get that people want to keep him. By all means, argue the C's should keep him.

But it's so clear they aren't into him.

Don't know how much clearer it can get.

I suppose it could be clearer if ya know, they traded him...or waived him, or bought out his contract..

All we have is rumors from folks like Jake Fischer and we have Brad Stevens who said this from 5:00 - 5:26

Watch on YouTube

Are the Celtics likely trading Simons at some point in the next 12 months? Seems like that is probably gonna happen - yeah.

Is there anything positive that's accomplished by trying to dunk on other posters who might not see things the exact same way as you with regards to this topic? I don't think so.

Seems like it's August, the dog days of summer and people are bored at this point..

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

[Shak_Celts]

Don't know how much clearer it can get.

I suppose it could be clearer if ya know, they traded him...or waived him, or bought out his contract..

All we have is rumors from folks like Jake Fischer and we have Brad Stevens who said this from 5:00 - 5:26

Watch on YouTube

Are the Celtics likely trading Simons at some point in the next 12 months? Seems like that is probably gonna happen - yeah.

Is there anything positive that's accomplished by trying to dunk on other posters who might not see things the exact same way as you with regards to this topic? I don't think so.

Seems like it's August, the dog days of summer and people are bored at this point..

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

Likely.

[Dogen]

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm not saying that Simons won't get traded. I've made posts recently that suggest the opposite.

All I'm saying is that the fact that we haven't had an introductory press conference for him means basically nothing.

Out of like the 100 players who have changed teams this offseason, there's been an introductory presser for what, like 7 or 8 of them?

Respectfully, you've been way behind the obvious on this all offseason. They don't want Simons. They're going to dump him. That's been clear from the moment they acquired him.

The posts of mine you're replying to today don't say otherwise.

You seem to be forcing an argument here for some reason.

Let's try to stay on track.

Again, I'm not saying that Simons won't get traded. I've made posts recently that suggest the opposite.

All I'm saying is that the fact that we haven't had an introductory press conference for him means basically nothing.

Full stop.

It takes two to tango. The Celtics would need to get something of value back for Simons, in addition to getting the tax relief. I don't see Simons as just a salary dump. He can play, and Brad has said that the team intends to stay competitive.

So the "dump" word is unfortunate here. Better to look in terms of at least showcasing Simons before teh deadline and see if he can raise in value. Otherwise, he's a FA at the end of the year and the team put an exciting, if flawed, team on the floor.

The team just extended Joe. No way did he take that to be a tank commander. Celtics will push for playoffs, and Simons may or may not be a prt of that by the end of the year, but there's no rush to move him until we see what we've got.

[fallguy]

Respectfully, you've been way behind the obvious on this all offseason. They don't want Simons. They're going to dump him. That's been clear from the moment they acquired him.

The posts of mine you're replying to today don't say otherwise.

You seem to be forcing an argument here for some reason.

Let's try to stay on track.

Again, I'm not saying that Simons won't get traded. I've made posts recently that suggest the opposite.

All I'm saying is that the fact that we haven't had an introductory press conference for him means basically nothing.

Full stop.

It takes two to tango. The Celtics would need to get something of value back for Simons, in addition to getting the tax relief. I don't see Simons as just a salary dump. He can play, and Brad has said that the team intends to stay competitive.

So the "dump" word is unfortunate here. Better to look in terms of at least showcasing Simons before teh deadline and see if he can raise in value. Otherwise, he's a FA at the end of the year and the team put an exciting, if flawed, team on the floor.

The team just extended Joe. No way did he take that to be a tank commander. Celtics will push for playoffs, and Simons may or may not be a prt of that by the end of the year, but there's no rush to move him until we see what we've got.

I don't think it really says anything here but if you were going to tank, you'd want to make sure your coach wasn't worried about job security.

[Fierce1]

I understand the part where you aggregate Simons and Niang or Niang and someone like Tillman.

But Niang is already gone and the Cs got ZERO dollars in return for Niang.

So aggregating Simons does not make sense anymore.

I mean are the Celtics going after a 30m+ player for a package of Simons and Tillman?

The Sep. 7 restriction on Simons is no longer needed because I think it's the other way around.
By that I mean the Celtics will trade Simons for 2 smaller contracts.

Aggregating Simons right now just doesn't make sense because it will end up the Celtics taking in a contract bigger than Simons' 27.67m.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't see this team as "flawed" at all. It's just not a "push button" team like it has been for the last two years. There's some uncertainty about who is going to step up. We know that Brown and White are all-star caliber players, and Pritchard isn't far behind. Boucher is a known quantity as a hustle guy and Hauser, if he is still here in October, is a sniper. And I've seen enough of Queta to think that he can rebound and rim protect at a high level and a healthy Tillman is a useful player.

The question is who else will step up among Simons, Garza, Minot, Scheierman, Gonzalez and Walsh. They will all have an opportunity to show what they can do, and I have faith in Stevens to bring in guys who have the potential to become good players. Plus I'm guessing that someone will fill that empty roster spot at some point.

[Hal14]

Don't know how much clearer it can get.

I suppose it could be clearer if ya know, they traded him...or waived him, or bought out his contract..

All we have is rumors from folks like Jake Fischer and we have Brad Stevens who said this from 5:00 - 5:26

Watch on YouTube

Are the Celtics likely trading Simons at some point in the next 12 months? Seems like that is probably gonna happen - yeah.

Is there anything positive that's accomplished by trying to dunk on other posters who might not see things the exact same way as you with regards to this topic? I don't think so.

Seems like it's August, the dog days of summer and people are bored at this point..

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

I think you're fixating on the wrong part of that press conference.

The only reason why I shared it was to illustrate the point that the 26 second clip in that vid from 5:00 - 5:26 is the only thing Brad has said publicly about Simons since we traded for him.

Yet you just said that Brad has told "everyone in the world" that he wants to trade Simons. Hmm..

[redslastlaugh]

Aggregating Simons + Tillman wouldn't be for taking back more money, it'd probably just be for opening a roster spot without having to pay second rnd draft capital to dump Xman, we'd take back the same money either way.

If we wanted to trade Simons and take back $25 million, we could also trade Simons and Tillman and take back $25 million.

I understand the part where you aggregate Simons and Niang or Niang and someone like Tillman.

But Niang is already gone and the Cs got ZERO dollars in return for Niang.

So aggregating Simons does not make sense anymore.

I mean are the Celtics going after a 30m+ player for a package of Simons and Tillman?

[Fierce1]

I don't see this team as "flawed" at all. It's just not a "push button" team like it has been for the last two years. There's some uncertainty about who is going to step up. We know that Brown and White are all-star caliber players, and Pritchard isn't far behind. Boucher is a known quantity as a hustle guy and Hauser, if he is still here in October, is a sniper. And I've seen enough of Queta to think that he can rebound and rim protect at a high level and a healthy Tillman is a useful player.

The question is who else will step up among Simons, Garza, Minot, Scheierman, Gonzalez and Walsh. They will all have an opportunity to show what they can do, and I have faith in Stevens to bring in guys who have the potential to become good players. Plus I'm guessing that someone will fill that empty roster spot at some point.

I agree.

Let me just add that Simons is also a proven vet that will give you 20 ppg.

So it's between Baylor, Garza, Mynot, Walsh, and Gonzalez.

If the Celtics just turn one of those 5 into a legit rotation player, the Celtics will win 45 games or more.

[Fierce1]

The regular season is about scoring and offense.

Just like the Pacers won 50 games relying on a great offense.

Pacers' defense was average at best, but they still made it to the Finals.

[Larry_Russell]

I don't see this team as "flawed" at all. It's just not a "push button" team like it has been for the last two years. There's some uncertainty about who is going to step up. We know that Brown and White are all-star caliber players, and Pritchard isn't far behind. Boucher is a known quantity as a hustle guy and Hauser, if he is still here in October, is a sniper. And I've seen enough of Queta to think that he can rebound and rim protect at a high level and a healthy Tillman is a useful player.

The question is who else will step up among Simons, Garza, Minot, Scheierman, Gonzalez and Walsh. They will all have an opportunity to show what they can do, and I have faith in Stevens to bring in guys who have the potential to become good players. Plus I'm guessing that someone will fill that empty roster spot at some point.

I hoe they lose at least 50 games this year and get a great pick.

Thats the goal here, idealls try and make simons looks not like a pile of garbage so they can get something of a tier 5 talent in return and get a good pick.

[Parliament10]

I'd like see Simons go for no-one-coming-back.
Charles Bassey is still out there. And a $27M+ TPE wouldn't be a bad thing.

We have like 4 TPE's that we can use to retool, for next Season.
I see you playing the long-game, Brad Stevens.

[fallguy]

I suppose it could be clearer if ya know, they traded him...or waived him, or bought out his contract..

All we have is rumors from folks like Jake Fischer and we have Brad Stevens who said this from 5:00 - 5:26

Watch on YouTube

Are the Celtics likely trading Simons at some point in the next 12 months? Seems like that is probably gonna happen - yeah.

Is there anything positive that's accomplished by trying to dunk on other posters who might not see things the exact same way as you with regards to this topic? I don't think so.

Seems like it's August, the dog days of summer and people are bored at this point..

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

I think you're fixating on the wrong part of that press conference.

The only reason why I shared it was to illustrate the point that the 26 second clip in that vid from 5:00 - 5:26 is the only thing Brad has said publicly about Simons since we traded for him.

Yet you just said that Brad has told "everyone in the world" that he wants to trade Simons. Hmm..

Good lord - do you not understand how to assess evidence in NBA media reporting?

[Smart2Nesmith43]

It's mind boggling to me there are people that feel otherwise. Celtics have been telling everyone in the world that they don't want Simons and they are trying to move him, right from the instant they traded for him. The only reason they traded for Simons was to get off of Jrue Holiday's long term money.

The Celtics have said no such thing. A bunch of media members are speculating that might be the case to generate clicks and engagement. There's a difference. Those same media members who by the way couldn't even figure out that the Celtics were going to trade FOR Simons until after the fact which should tell you all you need to know about how plugged into the Boston AND Simons camps they really are.

Those media members are talking to other front office personnel from other teams who told them the Celtics asked if they were interested in Simons. What more do you need?

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

Is your point that Brad Stevens is a liar but other NBA executives are inherently trustworthy ?

[Fierce1]

I'd like see Simons go for no-one-coming-back.
Charles Bassey is still out there. And a $27M+ TPE wouldn't be a bad thing.

We have like 4 TPE's that we can use to retool, for next Season.
I see you playing the long-game, Brad Stevens.

Right now the only team that can do that is Brooklyn.

Brooklyn is at 127.7m in total salaries.

Celtics would have to surrender a 1st round pick for Brooklyn to consider it.

[fallguy]

The Celtics have said no such thing. A bunch of media members are speculating that might be the case to generate clicks and engagement. There's a difference. Those same media members who by the way couldn't even figure out that the Celtics were going to trade FOR Simons until after the fact which should tell you all you need to know about how plugged into the Boston AND Simons camps they really are.

Those media members are talking to other front office personnel from other teams who told them the Celtics asked if they were interested in Simons. What more do you need?

Same press conference where Brad Stevens said "this is the team we likely will start the season with". Tell that to Niang and Boucher.

Is your point that Brad Stevens is a liar but other NBA executives are inherently trustworthy ?

You didn't direct that at me but this is NBA media literacy 101.

Stevens speaking on the record must be parsed differently than sources speaking to reporters off of it.

[Parliament10]

Stick to the Subject of the Thread, and not the Poster.

Addressing the poster, can get personal.
Let's stay away from that.

~ Parl