Official NBA General Discussion 2025-26 V1.0

[tsherkin]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

[TheGeneral99]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

It's absolutely crazy that a 6'0 foot tall, 24th pick, who was a late bloomer that only made the all-star team in his 9th season, is now the 3rd oldest guy in the league and will be 40 years old next March - that's an insane accomplishment. He was injured for most of last season, but was still productive in 2023-2024.

To put in perspective how crazy this is, only 34 players in NBA history have played past 40, and Lowry will join that list this year. And out of those 34 players, only Stockton, Cousy and CP3 are guards under 6'1 tall to do that.

[tsherkin]

It's absolutely crazy that a 6'0 foot tall, 24th pick, who was a late bloomer that only made the all-star team in his 9th season, is now the 3rd oldest guy in the league and will be 40 years old next March - that's an insane accomplishment. He was injured for most of last season, but was still productive in 2023-2024.

To put in perspective how crazy this is, only 34 players in NBA history have played past 40, and Lowry will join that list this year. And out of those 34 players, only Stockton, Cousy and CP3 are guards under 6'1 tall to do that.

He's had a very long career, for sure. He's missed a lot of games over the past 6 or 7 years, and his minutes have trended down (rapidly, of late). But it's been a good run. I was more impressed with how productive he was into his early 30s, though.

[onions17]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

It's absolutely crazy that a 6'0 foot tall, 24th pick, who was a late bloomer that only made the all-star team in his 9th season, is now the 3rd oldest guy in the league and will be 40 years old next March - that's an insane accomplishment. He was injured for most of last season, but was still productive in 2023-2024.

To put in perspective how crazy this is, only 34 players in NBA history have played past 40, and Lowry will join that list this year. And out of those 34 players, only Stockton, Cousy and CP3 are guards under 6'1 tall to do that.

and add to this that Lowry probably throws his weight around a lot more than any of those guys did.

[Kingsway_fan]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

Hrs been washed for like 5 years...

[ATLTimekeeper]

It used to be that small guards had short careers, and so some GMs would pump and dump. I remember Zach Lowe's early skepticism about Lowry's permanence. What he did not understand at the time is that the league was shifting and players were allowed to thrive along the perimeter more, including extending range beyond the 3PT line. There was less reliance on waterbug guards, and more reliance on pul-up 3PT gunners.

[tsherkin]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

Hrs been washed for like 5 years...

Yeah, but of course, he's old, small and battered, so that's not surprising.

[TheGeneral99]

It's absolutely crazy that a 6'0 foot tall, 24th pick, who was a late bloomer that only made the all-star team in his 9th season, is now the 3rd oldest guy in the league and will be 40 years old next March - that's an insane accomplishment. He was injured for most of last season, but was still productive in 2023-2024.

To put in perspective how crazy this is, only 34 players in NBA history have played past 40, and Lowry will join that list this year. And out of those 34 players, only Stockton, Cousy and CP3 are guards under 6'1 tall to do that.

He's had a very long career, for sure. He's missed a lot of games over the past 6 or 7 years, and his minutes have trended down (rapidly, of late). But it's been a good run. I was more impressed with how productive he was into his early 30s, though.

He was an all-star at 34 years old, still a high level player at 35 years old, and was a good starting PG at 36 and 37 years old. Of course injury issues have limited him the last 2 years.

But still insanely impressive he's kept a spot in this league for this long...he's in a very exclusive and small category of NBA players.

[tsherkin]

But still insanely impressive he's kept a spot in this league for this long...he's in a very exclusive and small category of NBA players.

There are only so many guys who are able to play that length of time, for sure. Or who want to, really. At some point, the motivation dissolves for most. It's been a bit easier for him to keep playing in the sense of not playing full seasons and what have you, but even still. I think I'm less hyperbolic about it than you are, but it's certainly nice to see.

Have always been a huge Lowry fan.

[YogurtProducer]

Anyone else feels it's crazy that Kyle Lowry is 39 years old, the 3rd oldest guy in the NBA, and still in the league.

I mean, he averaged 4/3 in less than half a season. It's not THAT crazy. It's definitely like a late-career season from Moses or Parish, or Vince.

Hrs been washed for like 5 years...

Dude was an all star 5 years ago and was the starting PG on a heat team that made the finals 2 years ago.

[YogurtProducer]

It's absolutely crazy that a 6'0 foot tall, 24th pick, who was a late bloomer that only made the all-star team in his 9th season, is now the 3rd oldest guy in the league and will be 40 years old next March - that's an insane accomplishment. He was injured for most of last season, but was still productive in 2023-2024.

To put in perspective how crazy this is, only 34 players in NBA history have played past 40, and Lowry will join that list this year. And out of those 34 players, only Stockton, Cousy and CP3 are guards under 6'1 tall to do that.

He's had a very long career, for sure. He's missed a lot of games over the past 6 or 7 years, and his minutes have trended down (rapidly, of late). But it's been a good run. I was more impressed with how productive he was into his early 30s, though.

He was an all-star at 34 years old, still a high level player at 35 years old, and was a good starting PG at 36 and 37 years old. Of course injury issues have limited him the last 2 years.

But still insanely impressive he's kept a spot in this league for this long...he's in a very exclusive and small category of NBA players.

Yeah dude was a starter in the finals at age 37.

[Cyrus]

Loool kings rumored to be after Westbrook with both Demar and lavine on the team?

Quick we need to offer them RJ for monk and first or sucker them for assests before it's too late.

[tsherkin]

Loool kings rumored to be after Westbrook with both Demar and lavine on the team?

That's a little odd, no doubt. Hard to envision what Westie would do for that team.

[Cyrus]

Loool kings rumored to be after Westbrook with both Demar and lavine on the team?

That's a little odd, no doubt. Hard to envision what Westie would do for that team.

Sounds like something vivek would do, and no doubt at some point sabonis going to demand a trade.

But if they are looking for ball dominate, not the v greatest efficiency atleast go after RJ, he's young atleast!

[causal_fan]

How would posters feel about RJ for Vucevic (Expiring) & Picks - Raptors move easily under the cap, young guards get to play - Vucevic can back up Poeltl and maybe some team may need a C at the trade deadline.

[tsherkin]

How would posters feel about RJ for Vucevic (Expiring) & Picks - Raptors move easily under the cap, young guards get to play - Vucevic can back up Poeltl and maybe some team may need a C at the trade deadline.

Vucevic would be an interesting thought, but I think he'd challenge Poeltl as far as who would be the backup in that case. If you're thinking the Chicago Vucevic, he's still crushing 19/10/3.5 in 31 mpg, on 14 FGA/g, and was up over 61% TS last year. He has a middie, hits his free throws, is still a decent offensive rebounder, etc. Poeltl is worse at the line, less healthy, but of course a far better offensive rebounder and isn't that far off in terms of raw productivity (he was what, 14/10 or thereabouts last year, and himself quite efficient).

Hmmm.

[ConSarnit]

How would posters feel about RJ for Vucevic (Expiring) & Picks - Raptors move easily under the cap, young guards get to play - Vucevic can back up Poeltl and maybe some team may need a C at the trade deadline.

Vucevic would be an interesting thought, but I think he'd challenge Poeltl as far as who would be the backup in that case. If you're thinking the Chicago Vucevic, he's still crushing 19/10/3.5 in 31 mpg, on 14 FGA/g, and was up over 61% TS last year. He has a middie, hits his free throws, is still a decent offensive rebounder, etc. Poeltl is worse at the line, less healthy, but of course a far better offensive rebounder and isn't that far off in terms of raw productivity (he was what, 14/10 or thereabouts last year, and himself quite efficient).

Hmmm.

I think Poeltl is the clear starter. Vuc is horrendous defensively. Now, as a backup he’s a big upgrade on Sandro. If the Bulls were offering any type of 1st I’d make that trade in a second. I’m lower on RJ’s trade value than most. Score first sg’s are not a hot commodity right now. I’d trade RJ for any expiring and a 1st.

[tsherkin]

I think Poeltl is the clear starter. Vuc is horrendous defensively. Now, as a backup he’s a big upgrade on Sandro. If the Bulls were offering any type of 1st I’d make that trade in a second. I’m lower on RJ’s trade value than most. Score first sg’s are not a hot commodity right now. I’d trade RJ for any expiring and a 1st.

Yeah, that's fair. I was just thinking about the offensive flexibility, especially because he can hit 3s in bunches, but the defensive element is quite accurate.

[ForeverTFC]

How would posters feel about RJ for Vucevic (Expiring) & Picks - Raptors move easily under the cap, young guards get to play - Vucevic can back up Poeltl and maybe some team may need a C at the trade deadline.

Vucevic would be an interesting thought, but I think he'd challenge Poeltl as far as who would be the backup in that case. If you're thinking the Chicago Vucevic, he's still crushing 19/10/3.5 in 31 mpg, on 14 FGA/g, and was up over 61% TS last year. He has a middie, hits his free throws, is still a decent offensive rebounder, etc. Poeltl is worse at the line, less healthy, but of course a far better offensive rebounder and isn't that far off in terms of raw productivity (he was what, 14/10 or thereabouts last year, and himself quite efficient).

Hmmm.

That's a crazy take. Poeltl does much more for the players around him than Vuc will. Individual stats are meaningless in this discussion.

[tsherkin]

That's a crazy take. Poeltl does much more for the player around him than Vuc will. Individual stats are meaningless in this discussion.

I am clearly much more familiar with his offense than his defense, as ConSarnit nicely illustrated xD