Top 10 QB's

[Micah Prescott]

Playoff success has always been the true measure of greatness in all the major sports if not all. We all see many great plays and greatness almost every week of every season during the regular season. When the playoffs come around, legends are born. Some are just plain allergic to the bright lights and pressure of it all. You should know that more than anyone watching Dak all these years.

I understand your logic, but again, Burrow went 9-8 and didn't even make the playoffs. He missed your entire view of what makes a QB great. So how is he #1 overall?

Because you're the only one who looks through a pinhole lol

Burrow has lost 2 playoff games in his entire career by a combined 10 points.

But his most recent year, he lost 8 regular season games and couldn't even get into the playoffs. And that shouldn't be the one and only time you come to the realization that there is more to the final score than the QB.

[Micah Prescott]

Opinion: Lamar stinks because he lost in the post season, which is all that matters
Opinion: Joe Burrow is the best QB in the NFL

^^^ these two things contradict each other

[JujitsuFlip]

I understand your logic, but again, Burrow went 9-8 and didn't even make the playoffs. He missed your entire view of what makes a QB great. So how is he #1 overall?

Because you're the only one who looks through a pinhole lol

Burrow has lost 2 playoff games in his entire career by a combined 10 points.

But his most recent year, he lost 8 regular season games and couldn't even get into the playoffs. And that shouldn't be the one and only time you come to the realization that there is more to the final score than the QB.

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

[Micah Prescott]

Because you're the only one who looks through a pinhole lol

Burrow has lost 2 playoff games in his entire career by a combined 10 points.

But his most recent year, he lost 8 regular season games and couldn't even get into the playoffs. And that shouldn't be the one and only time you come to the realization that there is more to the final score than the QB.

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

I am basically getting the sense that you believe missing the playoffs all together is better than losing in the playoffs.

[JujitsuFlip]

But his most recent year, he lost 8 regular season games and couldn't even get into the playoffs. And that shouldn't be the one and only time you come to the realization that there is more to the final score than the QB.

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

I am basically getting the sense that you believe missing the playoffs all together is better than losing in the playoffs.

Well, ya gotta think, i watched the Marvin Lewis Bengals go 0-6 in the playoffs in a 7 year span... So yeah, excuse me if I'm unimpressed by players putting up big regular season numbers, if they constantly choke when the bright lights are on.

[Micah Prescott]

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

I am basically getting the sense that you believe missing the playoffs all together is better than losing in the playoffs.

Well, ya gotta think, i watched the Marvin Lewis Bengals go 0-6 in the playoffs in a 7 year span... So yeah, excuse me if I'm unimpressed by players putting up big regular season numbers, if they constantly choke when the bright lights are on.

You missed my point

you think -

missing playoffs > losing in the playoffs

[bluejerseyjinx]

But his most recent year, he lost 8 regular season games and couldn't even get into the playoffs. And that shouldn't be the one and only time you come to the realization that there is more to the final score than the QB.

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

I am basically getting the sense that you believe missing the playoffs all together is better than losing in the playoffs.

In 2020 and 2023, Burrow and the Bengals missed the playoffs because Burrow got hurt and missed the remainder of the season. Even when the Bengals a great player or superstar, they do not do a very good job taking care of them. You would think when you get a player like Burrow the Bengals would use some of their resources and take care of this kid filling your seats. Bengals are one of the cheapest franchises in the NFL.

[Micah Prescott]

You're the one who is obsessed with the regular season lol hence why you're enamored with Lamar...

Lamar has a career win percentage in the playoffs of 37.5% that is straight up Mr Hanky.

I am basically getting the sense that you believe missing the playoffs all together is better than losing in the playoffs.

In 2020 and 2023, Burrow and the Bengals missed the playoffs because Burrow got hurt and missed the remainder of the season. Even when the Bengals a great player or superstar, they do not do a very good job taking care of them. You would think when you get a player like Burrow the Bengals would use some of their resources and take care of this kid filling your seats. Bengals are one of the cheapest franchises in the NFL.

Last year Burrow was actually the epitome of a "Stat Padder". Bad defense that gives up lots of points, resulting in Burrow having to throw the entire game and racking up lots of numbers.

He is in my top-4. But there really is no argument at all to place him over Lamar. Not right now anyway. Maybe the season will change that.

[Duke4life831]

I’m at the point where I think the top 4 QBs are basically non debatable. And from there it really just comes down to personal preference between those 4.

Lamar: most dynamic runner
Burrow: best pure passer
Allen: best throwing mobile QB
Mahomes: best playmaker

I think all 4 uplift their teams no matter who they’re surrounded by. And usually when they lose, it’s usually pretty easy to spot the flaw somewhere else on their team.

So I can see the argument for any of those 4 as the best QB currently. I can’t see an argument for anyone else though.

[Cactus Jack]

I’m at the point where I think the top 4 QBs are basically non debatable. And from there it really just comes down to personal preference between those 4.

Lamar: most dynamic runner
Burrow: best pure passer
Allen: best throwing mobile QB
Mahomes: best playmaker

I think all 4 uplift their teams no matter who they’re surrounded by. And usually when they lose, it’s usually pretty easy to spot the flaw somewhere else on their team.

So I can see the argument for any of those 4 as the best QB currently. I can’t see an argument for anyone else though.

Jayden is part of that group for me.

We all make a big fuss around here about playoff success. Yet he dragged that team to the NFC championship. It's also really impressive when you consider that they we're a below average defensive team. He's just a different cat.

[JujitsuFlip]

Last year Burrow was actually the epitome of a "Stat Padder". Bad defense that gives up lots of points, resulting in Burrow having to throw the entire game and racking up lots of numbers.

Nah, that's just how Zac Taylor calls offense lol guy has zero clue how to use the run game to get these edge rushers to stop teeing off on Burrow.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Last year Burrow was actually the epitome of a "Stat Padder". Bad defense that gives up lots of points, resulting in Burrow having to throw the entire game and racking up lots of numbers.

Nah, that's just how Zac Taylor calls offense lol guy has zero clue how to use the run game to get these edge rushers to stop teeing off on Burrow.

Stat Padder. Come on Micah. He was losing games putting up 38 and 41 points in some games. Bengals needed every yard Burrow threw just to even have a chance to win games. Your just being ridiculous now.

[Micah Prescott]

Last year Burrow was actually the epitome of a "Stat Padder". Bad defense that gives up lots of points, resulting in Burrow having to throw the entire game and racking up lots of numbers.

Nah, that's just how Zac Taylor calls offense lol guy has zero clue how to use the run game to get these edge rushers to stop teeing off on Burrow.

Stat Padder. Come on Micah. He was losing games putting up 38 and 41 points in some games. Bengals needed every yard Burrow threw just to even have a chance to win games. Your just being ridiculous now.

Exactly

Bengals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so Burrow was forced to throw all game long, every game.


He had 652 pass attempts. Which is head and shoulders the most in the NFL. #2 was Rodgers with 584 attempts.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Nah, that's just how Zac Taylor calls offense lol guy has zero clue how to use the run game to get these edge rushers to stop teeing off on Burrow.

Stat Padder. Come on Micah. He was losing games putting up 38 and 41 points in some games. Bengals needed every yard Burrow threw just to even have a chance to win games. Your just being ridiculous now.

Exactly

Bengals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so Burrow was forced to throw all game long, every game.


He had 652 pass attempts. Which is head and shoulders the most in the NFL. #2 was Rodgers with 584 attempts.

Jesus Micah, its not like Burrow had any choice last year. At least he did everything in his power to try and win the damn games instead of folding his tent and not giving a crap like most QB's.
Or you are trying to make some point I'm not seeing yet.

[Micah Prescott]

Stat Padder. Come on Micah. He was losing games putting up 38 and 41 points in some games. Bengals needed every yard Burrow threw just to even have a chance to win games. Your just being ridiculous now.

Exactly

Bengals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so Burrow was forced to throw all game long, every game.


He had 652 pass attempts. Which is head and shoulders the most in the NFL. #2 was Rodgers with 584 attempts.

Jesus Micah, its not like Burrow had any choice last year. At least he did everything in his power to try and win the damn games instead of folding his tent and not giving a crap like most QB's.
Or you are trying to make some point I'm not seeing yet.

Not sure how many times I have to explain this for you to see the point. Due to his horrible defense, the Bengals were forced to ditch the run and throw all game, resulting in Burrow having bloated stats.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Exactly

Bengals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so Burrow was forced to throw all game long, every game.


He had 652 pass attempts. Which is head and shoulders the most in the NFL. #2 was Rodgers with 584 attempts.

Jesus Micah, its not like Burrow had any choice last year. At least he did everything in his power to try and win the damn games instead of folding his tent and not giving a crap like most QB's.
Or you are trying to make some point I'm not seeing yet.

Not sure how many times I have to explain this for you to see the point. Due to his horrible defense, the Bengals were forced to ditch the run and throw all game, resulting in Burrow having bloated stats.

To be honest Micah, he needed every yard of those bloated stats just to fall one game short of making the playoffs. Your not seeing the other side of this.

[Micah Prescott]

Jesus Micah, its not like Burrow had any choice last year. At least he did everything in his power to try and win the damn games instead of folding his tent and not giving a crap like most QB's.
Or you are trying to make some point I'm not seeing yet.

Not sure how many times I have to explain this for you to see the point. Due to his horrible defense, the Bengals were forced to ditch the run and throw all game, resulting in Burrow having bloated stats.

To be honest Micah, he needed every yard of those bloated stats just to fall one game short of making the playoffs. Your not seeing the other side of this.

I never said it was his fault. I am saying the situation he was placed in, forced a sh*t load of pass attempts.

[bwgood77]

I think Herbert will be a lot better this year. Last year he had lost ALL his weapons and his only good wr was rookie Ladd McConkey.

Now he has Ladd who was one of the best rookie receivers last year, Keenan, who wasn't as good, but was working with a rookie QB while he has great chemistry with Herbert, then two rookies, 2nd round pick Tre Harris who is a big guy, jumps for the ball, KeAndre Lambert Smith, a speedster to stretch the field (he's looked great in preseason), and Oronde Gadsden. They also signed a vet guard to improve their line with pro bowl tackle Rashawn Slater and last year's #5 overall pick.

Then their first round pick, Omarion Hampton is fast, explosive, and will be a solid RB, but they also have Najee Harris, so their running game is much improved from JK Dobbins.

Obviously azcatz list in the first post is pretty good, but I think although a guy like Jayden Daniels will be a better fantasy guy, I'd rather have Herbert on my team (for now). I imagine with defenses knowing Daniels better, he may have it a bit tougher. And no way I have Jordan Love ahead of Herbert and Burrow. I think those guys are 4 and 5. Burrow may be a bit better, though that is largely because of Chase. If Herbert had him he'd probably look better.

[JujitsuFlip]

Exactly

Bengals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so Burrow was forced to throw all game long, every game.


He had 652 pass attempts. Which is head and shoulders the most in the NFL. #2 was Rodgers with 584 attempts.

Jesus Micah, its not like Burrow had any choice last year. At least he did everything in his power to try and win the damn games instead of folding his tent and not giving a crap like most QB's.
Or you are trying to make some point I'm not seeing yet.

Not sure how many times I have to explain this for you to see the point. Due to his horrible defense, the Bengals were forced to ditch the run and throw all game, resulting in Burrow having bloated stats.

This is how Zac Taylor coaches, I'm telling you lol

2019 Bengals: 616 PA vs 385 RA = passing 61.5% of the time.

2024 Bengals: 652 PA vs 380 RA = passing 63.2% of the time.

[JujitsuFlip]

I think Herbert will be a lot better this year. Last year he had lost ALL his weapons and his only good wr was rookie Ladd McConkey.

Now he has Ladd who was one of the best rookie receivers last year, Keenan, who wasn't as good, but was working with a rookie QB while he has great chemistry with Herbert, then two rookies, 2nd round pick Tre Harris who is a big guy, jumps for the ball, KeAndre Lambert Smith, a speedster to stretch the field (he's looked great in preseason), and Oronde Gadsden. They also signed a vet guard to improve their line with pro bowl tackle Rashawn Slater and last year's #5 overall pick.

Then their first round pick, Omarion Hampton is fast, explosive, and will be a solid RB, but they also have Najee Harris, so their running game is much improved from JK Dobbins.

Obviously azcatz list in the first post is pretty good, but I think although a guy like Jayden Daniels will be a better fantasy guy, I'd rather have Herbert on my team (for now). I imagine with defenses knowing Daniels better, he may have it a bit tougher. And no way I have Jordan Love ahead of Herbert and Burrow. I think those guys are 4 and 5. Burrow may be a bit better, though that is largely because of Chase. If Herbert had him he'd probably look better.

Pro bowl tackle Rashawn Slater is out for the entire season though.