Warriors Free Agency 2025

[AirP.]

Something interesting that Moody said was about his playing time and being on the bench. He would mess up or not give the effort and thought nobody noticed, but then he didn't get back in and understood EVERYONE (from the Warriors) saw it. To me, this seems to point towards GS (or maybe just/mostly Kerr) wants players who are given roles then not execute that role or on plays properly or worse, possibly not giving the effort they could be given in a situation.

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[AirP.]

This is from the Jake Fischer bleacher report video from yesterday. Fischer seems to indicate Horford, Melton and GP2 have an agreement with GS and are just waiting to sign contracts after the JK thing is handled (3 slot) and are also looking at Brogdon, S.Curry and J.Green. (another 3 slots for all 3) I guess it depends on what happens to JK and if they get hard capped on who they will sign (vs signing a player to a rookie minimum or not use all 15 roster spots) or make another move to open up a spot if it's financially feasible.

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So, if the above is correct, GS should have...

Curry, Melton, Butler, Green and Horford as their main 5 guys (by the playoffs, Melton could take a while to get back up to 100%).
Podz, Moody, HIELD, GP2, Post, Santos and TJD off the bench and with Kuminga probably still on the roster making it 13 players of the min 14-man roster.

If Kuminga is tradable this season, I'd expect GS would only carry 14 just in case they need to have the roster spot have to bring back +1 player in a Kuminga trade so this would leave 1 more open spot for 3 of the previously mentioned players (Brogdon, Curry and Green). GS can decide what they need for depth on their roster between a PG, a shooter and/or a stretch big.

[donkeylips]

They have Hield too

[AirP.]

They have Hield too

Fixed, thank you. How could I forget Buddard?

It's a much better roster than last year and it seems they'll be able to add the position they feel they need with the 14th roster spot.

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[EvanZ]

Something interesting that Moody said was about his playing time and being on the bench. He would mess up or not give the effort and thought nobody noticed, but then he didn't get back in and understood EVERYONE (from the Warriors) saw it. To me, this seems to point towards GS (or maybe just/mostly Kerr) wants players who are given roles then not execute that role or on plays properly or worse, possibly not giving the effort they could be given in a situation.

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One of these guys knew his worth.

[statsman]

I don't get it. Lacob has been enamored since the beginning with Kuminga. There probably have been a few times MDJ (and possibly Myers) had a trade lined up involving Kuminga that Lacob nixed.

Assuming that's the case, why don't the Warriors guarantee the 2nd season of the 1+1 at 2/45? Hell, why don't they just offer him 4/100, because you know that would make Lacob happy.

[AirP.]

I don't get it. Lacob has been enamored since the beginning with Kuminga. There probably have been a few times MDJ (and possibly Myers) had a trade lined up involving Kuminga that Lacob nixed.

Assuming that's the case, why don't the Warriors guarantee the 2nd season of the 1+1 at 2/45? Hell, why don't they just offer him 4/100, because you know that would make Lacob happy.

One simple reason is that he could be utilized this next season as an expiring contract which is just 1 more way he could be traded to benefit GS. One example of how this could be utilized is if a contender has a huge injury, say Boston has a major injury with Brown, they may want to jettison more future salary since it'll be multiple seasons before Tatum and Brown may be back to 100% and with that could look to offload White's salary.

[Onus]

I don't get it. Lacob has been enamored since the beginning with Kuminga. There probably have been a few times MDJ (and possibly Myers) had a trade lined up involving Kuminga that Lacob nixed.

Assuming that's the case, why don't the Warriors guarantee the 2nd season of the 1+1 at 2/45? Hell, why don't they just offer him 4/100, because you know that would make Lacob happy.

Yea the front office's stance on JK is confusing to say the least. Went from untouchable to must trade at all costs. Like they really think a 2 year contract is going to be so much harder to move than an expiring contract? I guess they see his market in RFA and they have little confidence in being able to move a 1.5 year JK contract for value.

[azwfan]

Its all negotiation. They are trying to get the best deal for them, as is JK’s agent. Half truth reports and rumors are just for the clicks.

[CS707]

I don't get it. Lacob has been enamored since the beginning with Kuminga. There probably have been a few times MDJ (and possibly Myers) had a trade lined up involving Kuminga that Lacob nixed.

Assuming that's the case, why don't the Warriors guarantee the 2nd season of the 1+1 at 2/45? Hell, why don't they just offer him 4/100, because you know that would make Lacob happy.

Yea the front office's stance on JK is confusing to say the least. Went from untouchable to must trade at all costs. Like they really think a 2 year contract is going to be so much harder to move than an expiring contract? I guess they see his market in RFA and they have little confidence in being able to move a 1.5 year JK contract for value.

I think this points more to the lack of credible reporting than anything. We really have no idea what the FO thought of Kuminga and/or at what point that opinion changed and why.

[Onus]

I don't get it. Lacob has been enamored since the beginning with Kuminga. There probably have been a few times MDJ (and possibly Myers) had a trade lined up involving Kuminga that Lacob nixed.

Assuming that's the case, why don't the Warriors guarantee the 2nd season of the 1+1 at 2/45? Hell, why don't they just offer him 4/100, because you know that would make Lacob happy.

Yea the front office's stance on JK is confusing to say the least. Went from untouchable to must trade at all costs. Like they really think a 2 year contract is going to be so much harder to move than an expiring contract? I guess they see his market in RFA and they have little confidence in being able to move a 1.5 year JK contract for value.

I think this points more to the lack of credible reporting than anything. We really have no idea what the FO thought of Kuminga and/or at what point that opinion changed and why.

I think JK wasn't highly valued around the league and Lacob probably valued him more than what was being offered and so we likely put out the stories that we wouldn't trade JK or JK was untouchable. The only thing that is obvious is that someone in our front office overvalues JK (most likely Lacob).

[CS707]

Yea the front office's stance on JK is confusing to say the least. Went from untouchable to must trade at all costs. Like they really think a 2 year contract is going to be so much harder to move than an expiring contract? I guess they see his market in RFA and they have little confidence in being able to move a 1.5 year JK contract for value.

I think this points more to the lack of credible reporting than anything. We really have no idea what the FO thought of Kuminga and/or at what point that opinion changed and why.

I think JK wasn't highly valued around the league and Lacob probably valued him more than what was being offered and so we likely put out the stories that we wouldn't trade JK or JK was untouchable. The only thing that is obvious is that someone in our front office overvalues JK (most likely Lacob).

I think it might be more nuanced that than. Literal value is what someone is willing to pay. There's just a point when the present value is low enough that it makes more sense to hold onto the asset to see if it appreciates. The stories could simply be an exaggeration of the fact that we weren't willing to sell low. Basically not being willing to give him up for chump change becomes "he's untouchable". Also, it might be that he was never the actual deal breaker in some of these rumored trade talks but rather some other aspect (draft picks, etc.).

[Onus]

I think this points more to the lack of credible reporting than anything. We really have no idea what the FO thought of Kuminga and/or at what point that opinion changed and why.

I think JK wasn't highly valued around the league and Lacob probably valued him more than what was being offered and so we likely put out the stories that we wouldn't trade JK or JK was untouchable. The only thing that is obvious is that someone in our front office overvalues JK (most likely Lacob).

I think it might be more nuanced that than. Literal value is what someone is willing to pay. There's just a point when the present value is low enough that it makes more sense to hold onto the asset to see if it appreciates. The stories could simply be an exaggeration of the fact that we weren't willing to sell low. Basically not being willing to give him up for chump change becomes "he's untouchable". Also, it might be that he was never the actual deal breaker in some of these rumored trade talks but rather some other aspect (draft picks, etc.).

hold onto the asset and see it depreciate as well, which happened.

[CS707]

I think JK wasn't highly valued around the league and Lacob probably valued him more than what was being offered and so we likely put out the stories that we wouldn't trade JK or JK was untouchable. The only thing that is obvious is that someone in our front office overvalues JK (most likely Lacob).

I think it might be more nuanced that than. Literal value is what someone is willing to pay. There's just a point when the present value is low enough that it makes more sense to hold onto the asset to see if it appreciates. The stories could simply be an exaggeration of the fact that we weren't willing to sell low. Basically not being willing to give him up for chump change becomes "he's untouchable". Also, it might be that he was never the actual deal breaker in some of these rumored trade talks but rather some other aspect (draft picks, etc.).

hold onto the asset and see it depreciate as well, which happened.

What did it actually cost us though? That's the unanswered question. If the premise is that the league didn't rate him, probably not much.

[Onus]

I think it might be more nuanced that than. Literal value is what someone is willing to pay. There's just a point when the present value is low enough that it makes more sense to hold onto the asset to see if it appreciates. The stories could simply be an exaggeration of the fact that we weren't willing to sell low. Basically not being willing to give him up for chump change becomes "he's untouchable". Also, it might be that he was never the actual deal breaker in some of these rumored trade talks but rather some other aspect (draft picks, etc.).

hold onto the asset and see it depreciate as well, which happened.

What did it actually cost us though? That's the unanswered question. If the premise is that the league didn't rate him, probably not much.

Og, Siakam, Lauri, Caruso, cam Johnson.

[CS707]

hold onto the asset and see it depreciate as well, which happened.

What did it actually cost us though? That's the unanswered question. If the premise is that the league didn't rate him, probably not much.

Og, Siakam, Lauri, Caruso, cam Johnson.

Did JK specifically cost us those trades or not wanting to include a crapload of draft picks?

[Onus]

What did it actually cost us though? That's the unanswered question. If the premise is that the league didn't rate him, probably not much.

Og, Siakam, Lauri, Caruso, cam Johnson.

Did JK specifically cost us those trades or not wanting to include a crapload of draft picks?

Why are we worried about draft picks if we’re trying to win a championship now?

[CS707]

Og, Siakam, Lauri, Caruso, cam Johnson.

Did JK specifically cost us those trades or not wanting to include a crapload of draft picks?

Why are we worried about draft picks if we’re trying to win a championship now?

That's a whole different conversation. The assertion was that including JK was the deal breaker in those trades, which we have no proof of. It could very well be that the front office was fine including Kuminga but balked at the idea of sending out significant draft capital. I just think there's been so much smoke and mirrors that it's hard to say how much he specifically factored in trades that didn't come to fruition.

[Onus]

Did JK specifically cost us those trades or not wanting to include a crapload of draft picks?

Why are we worried about draft picks if we’re trying to win a championship now?

That's a whole different conversation. The assertion was that including JK was the deal breaker in those trades, which we have no proof of. It could very well be that the front office was fine including Kuminga but balked at the idea of sending out significant draft capital. I just think there's been so much smoke and mirrors that it's hard to say how much he specifically factored in trades that didn't come to fruition.

The front office failed by not making any of those trades. Some were better than others but not doing any of them was not best. There’s a misevaluation that’s happening with our assets and jk is the biggest misevaluation.

[DAWill1128]

Assuming we sign Horford, Melton, GP2 I think we will have a Championship level defense. Dray and Jimmy are both such top tier help defenders, so smart at seeing the floor on defense. Horford will help a ton to prevent Dray and Jimmy from getting into these undersized matchups.

Who will start at shooting guard is hard to say. Moody, Melton, GP2 are all good defenders. We have to be scrappy at shooting guard just to help funnel quick guards into our help defense.

My biggest concern is the lack of a 3rd option scorer. They've mismanaged the Kuminga situation. Even if this team adds size and depth its lacking a Kukoc/Odom 3rd option. Hield I like more as a streaky gunner. I don't know what the franchise is going to do with Kuminga but if they have to add value to bring in a guy who can buy in and help on offense thats the missing ingredient.

Outside of the guys expected to sign I would like to see them bring in Brogdon. To me Brogdon is just a better Podz, bigger and smarter player. Guy has vet experience, better ball handler, better shooter, better passer, better finisher.