Warriors Free Agency 2025

AirP. · Post #641 » by **AirP.** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:49 pm

Looks like there are 0 plans of moving Hield this off-season which is reinforcing the likelihood of not being put in a position with a Kuminga trade that they have to move Hield's salary.

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EvanZ · Post #642 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:07 pm

It just doesn't make sense to lose Buddy or Moody just to dump Kuminga.

statsman · Post #643 » by **statsman** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:37 pm

AirP. wrote:Looks like there are 0 plans of moving Hield this off-season which is reinforcing the likelihood of not being put in a position with a Kuminga trade that they have to move Hield's salary.

In one respect, I don't blame the Warriors. They have an older squad that will likely miss a fair number of games.

For better or for worse, Hield is an iron-man of sorts. He hasn't missed many games. Just 5 games missed with over 700 played in his career (not counting the games he was inactive because of trades).

Heck, with the mid-season trade in 2023-24 between the Pacers and the Sixers, due to their schedules, Hield ended up playing 84 games in an 82 game season. That includes one game being inactive because of the trade, and also doesn't count the one play-in game the Sixers won.

Beyond all of that, I don't think you move Hield unless they acquire someone capability of hitting from 3 well enough.

Onus · Post #644 » by **Onus** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:40 pm

Honestly seems irresponsible for us to even ask for an unprotected pick + Monk for JK + Buddy/Moody. That's a terrible deal for us even with an unprotected pick.

statsman · Post #645 » by **statsman** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:43 pm

Onus wrote:Honestly seems irresponsible for us to even ask for an unprotected pick + Monk for JK + Buddy/Moody. That's a terrible deal for us even with an unprotected pick.

That unprotected pick covers taking on Monk. That's it. The Kings have been trying to move Monk, with no such luck. They probably thought they had a desperate seller/buyer with the Warriors. Everyone was so sure a Kuminga S&T for Monk deal was struck around August 1st.

Onus · Post #646 » by **Onus** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 1:48 pm

statsman wrote:
Onus wrote:Honestly seems irresponsible for us to even ask for an unprotected pick + Monk for JK + Buddy/Moody. That's a terrible deal for us even with an unprotected pick.

That unprotected pick covers taking on Monk. That's it. The Kings have been trying to move Monk, with no such luck. They probably thought they had a desperate seller/buyer with the Warriors. Everyone was so sure a Kuminga S&T for Monk deal was struck around August 1st.

It wasn't even unprotected to take on Monk's contract.

I'm really curious if Lacob is ready to trade JK solely as salary filler at the trade deadline. Like we're likely going to have to add value to get someone that we want.

CS707 · Post #647 » by **CS707** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:14 pm

Onus wrote: Like we're likely going to have to add value to get someone that we want.

Which has probably always been the case.

Onus · Post #648 » by **Onus** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:35 pm

CS707 wrote:
Onus wrote: Like we're likely going to have to add value to get someone that we want.

Which has probably always been the case.

Exactly which is kind of why I’m expecting us to pick up his team option at the end of next year.

CS707 · Post #649 » by **CS707** » Wed Aug 13, 2025 10:39 pm

Onus wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Onus wrote: Like we're likely going to have to add value to get someone that we want.

Which has probably always been the case.

Exactly which is kind of why I’m expecting us to pick up his team option at the end of next year.

It wouldn't surprise me.

vvoland · Post #650 » by **vvoland** » Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:53 pm

This probably deserves it's own thread but 25-26 schedule is out and we have 16 b2b:

oct - 2
nov - 3
dec - 3
jan - 2
feb - 1
mar - 3
apr - 2

Guaranteed to lead the league, again. And I might be missing some as the League Cup is leaving a few holes in the schedule. Is there any logic to why some teams will play half of the amount of back 2 backs we will?

ChuckDurn · Post #651 » by **ChuckDurn** » Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:27 pm

Disappointing that Amir Coffey signed today with the Bucks….. I was hoping we were stealthily pursuing him, particularly given the possibility (albeit small) that Kuminga isn’t going to be back and we were going to have roster balance and/or depth issues up-front……

vvoland · Post #652 » by **vvoland** » Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:32 pm

ChuckDurn wrote:Disappointing that Amir Coffey signed today with the Bucks….. I was hoping we were stealthily pursuing him, particularly given the possibility (albeit small) that Kuminga isn’t going to be back and we were going to have roster balance and/or depth issues up-front……

I wanted Amir even if we brought back JK and was hopeful he was waiting on us. Sad to see him sign, good pickup for the bucks.

xdrta+ · Post #653 » by **xdrta+** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:02 am

vvoland wrote:
ChuckDurn wrote:Disappointing that Amir Coffey signed today with the Bucks….. I was hoping we were stealthily pursuing him, particularly given the possibility (albeit small) that Kuminga isn’t going to be back and we were going to have roster balance and/or depth issues up-front……

I wanted Amir even if we brought back JK and was hopeful he was waiting on us. Sad to see him sign, good pickup for the bucks.

Couldn't have been a big market for Coffey, the Bucks signed him to a training camp deal, probably with exhibit 9 language and possibly exhibit 10. The Bucks have a full 15 man roster and he is ineligible for a 2-way, so he'll have to beat out someone to stick.

statsman · Post #654 » by **statsman** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:42 am

ChuckDurn wrote:Disappointing that Amir Coffey signed today with the Bucks….. I was hoping we were stealthily pursuing him, particularly given the possibility (albeit small) that Kuminga isn’t going to be back and we were going to have roster balance and/or depth issues up-front……

Knowing that Coffey might have been a target for the Warriors, maybe it was the Bucks' way of saying FU to Lacob and his not-very-covert desires to obtain Giannis. Or at least I would like to believe that.

whatisacenter · Post #655 » by **whatisacenter** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:17 am

CS707 wrote:
Onus wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Which has probably always been the case.

Exactly which is kind of why I’m expecting us to pick up his team option at the end of next year.

It wouldn't surprise me.

Which is why I could see him not accepting the offer and playing on the QO if they don't give him a PO.

CS707 · Post #656 » by **CS707** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:35 am

whatisacenter wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Onus wrote:Exactly which is kind of why I’m expecting us to pick up his team option at the end of next year.

It wouldn't surprise me.

Which is why I could see him not accepting the offer and playing on the QO if they don't give him a PO.

And I still think it’s a dumb strategy on his part. His career can’t afford a lame duck season with a team that has zero incentive to showcasing him in any way outside of what they need him to do for the team goals.

whatisacenter · Post #657 » by **whatisacenter** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:44 am

CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
CS707 wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me.

Which is why I could see him not accepting the offer and playing on the QO if they don't give him a PO.

And I still think it’s a dumb strategy on his part. His career can’t afford a lame duck season with a team that has zero incentive to showcasing him in any way outside of what they need him to do for the team goals.

I think the prospect of playing another year let alone 2 more years with this franchise is his concern.

I don't think he needs to showcase himself next season nor would he even get the chance to with the Warriors anyway...what is going to change as long as he is hear?

CS707 · Post #658 » by **CS707** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:00 am

whatisacenter wrote:
CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Which is why I could see him not accepting the offer and playing on the QO if they don't give him a PO.

And I still think it’s a dumb strategy on his part. His career can’t afford a lame duck season with a team that has zero incentive to showcasing him in any way outside of what they need him to do for the team goals.

I think the prospect of playing another year let alone 2 more years with this franchise is his concern.

I don't think he needs to showcase himself next season nor would he even get the chance to with the Warriors anyway...what is going to change as long as he is hear?

Of course he needs to showcase himself for FA. What type of contract do you think he’s going to get if he has another year like last season? Right now there’s a little intrigue but that dissipates more every year he’s not living up to expectations. This idea that he’s got guaranteed suitors lined up is silly.

If the Warriors want to trade him then they have mutual interest in him looking good. If he’s on the QO, that incentive disappears and his only way to playing time is doing what’s asked and contributing to winning basketball. You know how much he hates that.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #659 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:51 am

Coffee gone.
Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

vvoland · Post #660 » by **vvoland** » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:57 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Coffee gone.
Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

Do you think there is 0 responsibility on the warriors for not making the 1st offer until fairly late in the summer and not budging off of it? It takes two to tango, no?