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Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th)

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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#221 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:18 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:That’ll do it for this one

One of Fisher’s worst outings all season really

He had two terrible ones last month that were equally bad and worse. One against the Yankees, and another one with the Giants.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#222 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:18 am

dh_45 wrote:I would not have wasted fluharty in this one

Fluharty is the 2nd lowest leverage arm in their pen
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#223 » by vaff87 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:19 am

Wait, why are we trading Vladdy to the Yankees?

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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#224 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:19 am

Mehar wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:That’ll do it for this one

One of Fisher’s worst outings all season really

He had two terrible ones last month that were equally bad and worse. One against the Yankees, and another one with the Giants.

Those games were the only runs he’s allowed in his last 29 appearances

Ridiculously good reliever for them this year
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#225 » by bluerap23 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:20 am

So why did Gausman come out? 84 pitched and super sharp in the 7th
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#226 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:20 am

vaff87 wrote:Wait, why are we trading Vladdy to the Yankees?

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Salary dump
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#227 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:21 am

bluerap23 wrote:So why did Gausman come out? 84 pitched and super sharp in the 7th

He’s old
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#228 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:25 am

The SPs we are facing this week: Horton, Boyd, DeGrom, Corbin (the one breather), Eovaldi, Skenes

Going 500 in this stretch would be incredible
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#229 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:26 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:That’ll do it for this one

One of Fisher’s worst outings all season really

He had two terrible ones last month that were equally bad and worse. One against the Yankees, and another one with the Giants.

Those games were the only runs he’s allowed in his last 29 appearances

Ridiculously good reliever for them this year

He did not have it tonight, but Fisher has been pretty solid all year. Great trade when you sent a scrub like Cavan Biggio to get him. Offense did not get the job tonight when you have 2 hits through 8 innings.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#230 » by COY0607 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:27 am

John Schneider doesn’t know how to use a deep bullpen, he was fine with just Hoffman and Yariel. Too many good options doesn’t work for him

Why weren’t either Seranthony or Yariel used in the 8th. In a close game, neither has pitched in a while. Didn’t we just go through this with Hofmann
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#231 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:30 am

COY0607 wrote:John Schneider doesn’t know how to use a deep bullpen, he was fine with just Hoffman and Yariel. Too many good options doesn’t work for him

Why weren’t either Seranthony or Yariel used in the 8th. In a close game, neither has pitched in a while. Didn’t we just go through this with Hofmann

Fisher has arguably been the best RP in their bullpen all season, no issue at all with using him there
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#232 » by JN » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:30 am

Tommy Nance is our Jay Jackson of 2023.
Pretty much all low leverage but the numbers are quite good .. the few times he came in with leverage he can through … not that today was high.


Do we offer arbitration to Nance .. will probably be a few million.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#233 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:36 am

vaff87 wrote:
Mehar wrote:Not sure why you did not pinch hit for Varsho versus the Lefty. Bad move by Schneider.


His spot might come up in the 9th or 10th vs a righty.

That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#234 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:37 am

Mehar wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
Mehar wrote:Not sure why you did not pinch hit for Varsho versus the Lefty. Bad move by Schneider.


His spot might come up in the 9th or 10th vs a righty.

That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

Nah it was fine
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#235 » by Tripod » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:38 am

Mehar wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
Mehar wrote:Not sure why you did not pinch hit for Varsho versus the Lefty. Bad move by Schneider.


His spot might come up in the 9th or 10th vs a righty.

That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

What did they lose by?

Your judgment is clouded
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#236 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:40 am

Valencia has been an incredible Closer for the Cubs this year. Hitting 101 and 102 miles, and 5 more years of control left. Does not look like a nervous wreck. Attacks the hitters and does not play around. Great pitching by the Cubs tonight.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#237 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:43 am

Tripod wrote:
Mehar wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
His spot might come up in the 9th or 10th vs a righty.

That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

What did they lose by?

Your judgment is clouded

At that time they were down a run. If they tied it up, maybe you bring Rodriguez in the 8th and not Fisher. Who cares what the final score was when it was 2 to 1 in the 7th. Varsho should have been Pinch Hit for in the 7th.

Varsho is a terrible hitter against Lefties. Why would you not bring in a Davis Schneider in that situation? Straw came in the game for defensive purposes anyways. You could have moved Straw to CF anyways, where Varsho's arm is pretty much gone.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#238 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:49 am

Mehar wrote:
Tripod wrote:
Mehar wrote:That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

What did they lose by?

Your judgment is clouded

At that time they were down a run. If they tied it up, maybe you bring Rodriguez in the 8th and not Fisher. Who cares what the final score was when it was 2 to 1 in the 7th. Varsho should have been Pinch Hit for in the 7th.

Varsho is a terrible hitter against Lefties. Why would you not bring in a Davis Schneider in that situation? Straw came in the game for defensive purposes anyways. You could have moved Straw to CF anyways, where Varsho's arm is pretty much gone.

Yariel is more likely to give up a run than Fisher this year

And there was nothing wrong with letting Varsho hit in that spot, he hit lefties very well last season
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#239 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:50 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Mehar wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
His spot might come up in the 9th or 10th vs a righty.

That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

Nah it was fine

You are saying it is fine since it is your hero Varsho. Varsho should have been absolutely pinch hit for given his atrocious numbers against Lefties, when you are down a run in the 7th.

Straw came in the game for defensive purposes anyways. You could have put Straw in CF, by having Davis Schneider hit for Varsho. Straw has a much better arm in CF than Varsho, who is unable to throw like he once did due to his shoulder surgery. Your hero's arm is gone. So, you were not losing much having Straw in CF to finish the game.
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Re: Chicago Cubs (67-49) vs Blue Jays (69-50) (August 12th-August 14th) 

Post#240 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:52 am

Mehar wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Mehar wrote:That is why you never play the "What If" game. Absolutely the wrong move not to pinch hit for Varsho in the 9th.

Nah it was fine

You are saying it is fine since it is your hero Varsho. Varsho should have been absolutely pinch hit for given his atrocious numbers against Lefties, when you are down a run in the 7th.

Straw came in the game for defensive purposes anyways. You could have put Straw in CF, by having Davis Schneider hit for Varsho. Straw has a much better arm in CF than Varsho, who is unable to throw like he once did due to his shoulder surgery. Your hero's arm is gone. So, you were not losing much having Straw in CF to finish the game.

I’m saying it because it was the right move to keep one of the team’s best players in the game in that spot. It was incredibly likely at that point that he’d have a 2nd AB later and he’s hardly a guaranteed out against LHPs in his career.

Schneider has made a habit of pulling players too early sometimes this year; fortunately he didn’t do in that spot. Maybe he’s learning
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