Mohamed Dabone

[UcanUwill]

Do you have a Link for those games?

I am not aware of Division 1 teams barely beating Under 17 Euroleague teams. I know the level of U17-U18 teams in Europe, they are trash. There is no Division 1 team that would struggle against them

On the other hand, I have seen many many examples of Division 1 teams, not even elite ones at that, beat first division teams in Europe, albeit not Euroleague ones.

He cherry picks one example or just spreads lies to make Euro ball look stronger as is, thats his thing. tho division 1 teams can really warry, there are so many teams. I always saw top Division 1 comparable to FIBA U19 WC level, tho top Division 1 teams are usually better, they would be favorites in a lot of U19 world cups, and yeah, most of them should beat club junior teams, unless we are talking about irrelevant division 1 teams.

Structure and coaching is different, we have seen Euros go to NCAA and do very well, but we have many examples were top Euro prospects from junior national teams fade away on the benches in the NCAA.

Obviously, no one serious is saying that college is stronger than Euroleague, that is just stupid and Mirotic12 makes up a problem to fight it. Whoever says this is stupid minority not to be taken seriously, over here in Lithuania, many many people also think NBA is trash, Sabonis is star there, so it must be trash. Lots of Euro fanboys think NBA is terrible with no defense and coaching, Its opinion that is not to be taken seriously, there will always be haters. Most people in America know that Euroleague is second strongest league in the world by far even if they do not really know what it is (like here people who think Rubio played in Euroelague at age 14, when in reality it was Spanish ACB, a completely different thing, some people can't grasp that there are countless leagues in Europe. thousands of pro teams, and only 20 play in the Euroleague).

[Mr Puddles]

Before we start casting asparagus about Dabone's age, let's remember that Benjamin Button's disease is a serious illness that people have to deal with on a daily basis. Let's show a little compassion and leave the asparagus in the ground where they belong.

[UcanUwill]

Before we start casting asperges about Dabone's age, let's remember that Benjamin Button's disease is a serious illness that people have to deal with on a daily basis. Let's show a little compassion and leave the asperges in the ground where they belong.

I always wanted to read that book, it sounds interesting, but I never did.

[BruttoNostra]

Dominated the Euroleague ? In what world ? He played in the Adidas U18 next gen tournament, that's not the Euroleague,..these Americans calling everything in Europe the Euroleague

There was a thread here not too long ago where some posters said that the NCAA college teams were better than EuroLeague teams because some NCAA Division I teams had beaten a couple of under 17 youth squads of EuroLeague teams.

They didn't even understand the college teams only played against the youth EuroLeague teams, because they would get annihilated by the actual senior men's EuroLeague teams. But nonetheless, they were claiming it as being wins of American college teams "against the EuroLeague".

And the Division I teams barely even beat the Under 17 EuroLeague teams.

Do you have a Link for those games?

I am not aware of Division 1 teams barely beating Under 17 Euroleague teams. I know the level of U17-U18 teams in Europe, they are trash. There is no Division 1 team that would struggle against them

On the other hand, I have seen many many examples of Division 1 teams, not even elite ones at that, beat first division teams in Europe, albeit not Euroleague ones.

What does it even mean?
First division team from Romania or Denmark would be like 3rd or 4th division from Spain.
Top NCAA teams? (I mean, loaded teams like Duke last year) Yea, they can compete with some Eurocap teams and maybe 1 or 2 Euroleague teams.

And back to the topic...
There are speculations he was listed as 16yo in 2023.
I don't know if it's true (edit - just saw the webarchive link to a fiba page you posted - wow, so it's well documented!), but his current look isn't of a 13yo teenager. He looks like a high school senior/college freshman. Not because of his height. Just the face/body.

[BruttoNostra]

Do you have a Link for those games?

I am not aware of Division 1 teams barely beating Under 17 Euroleague teams. I know the level of U17-U18 teams in Europe, they are trash. There is no Division 1 team that would struggle against them

On the other hand, I have seen many many examples of Division 1 teams, not even elite ones at that, beat first division teams in Europe, albeit not Euroleague ones.

He cherry picks one example or just spreads lies to make Euro ball look stronger as is, thats his thing. tho division 1 teams can really warry, there are so many teams. I always saw top Division 1 comparable to FIBA U19 WC level, tho top Division 1 teams are usually better, they would be favorites in a lot of U19 world cups, and yeah, most of them should beat club junior teams, unless we are talking about irrelevant division 1 teams.

Structure and coaching is different, we have seen Euros go to NCAA and do very well, but we have many examples were top Euro prospects from junior national teams fade away on the benches in the NCAA.

Obviously, no one serious is saying that college is stronger than Euroleague, that is just stupid and Mirotic12 makes up a problem to fight it. Whoever says this is stupid minority not to be taken seriously, over here in Lithuania, many many people also think NBA is trash, Sabonis is star there, so it must be trash. Lots of Euro fanboys think NBA is terrible with no defense and coaching, Its opinion that is not to be taken seriously, there will always be haters. Most people in America know that Euroleague is second strongest league in the world by far even if they do not really know what it is (like here people who think Rubio played in Euroelague at age 14, when in reality it was Spanish ACB, a completely different thing, some people can't grasp that there are countless leagues in Europe. thousands of pro teams, and only 20 play in the Euroleague).

The bold part... I don't know. You can find dozens of users here who bring Shane Larkin/Mike James to downplay EL in euro ball threads. Of course it's "survival bias" and they don't see/bring up dozens and dozens of successful college players who ride the bench in Eurocap or lower level.

[BruttoNostra]

It reminds me of Usman Garuba. At 14yo he won an MVP of U-16 Euro Championship. It's Ricky Ribio territory, man...
Now, I'm not comparing that to the fact he was a scrub in NBA, lasting what, 3 years in the league (?). The shocking part is the fact he was listed at 203cm back then at 14yo - same as now at 23yo...

[peZt]

It reminds me of Usman Garuba. At 14yo he won an MVP of U-16 Euro Championship. It's Ricky Ribio territory, man...
Now, I'm not comparing that to the fact he was a scrub in NBA, lasting what, 3 years in the league (?). The shocking part is the fact he was listed at 203cm back then at 14yo - same as now at 23yo...

Usman Garuba is born in Madrid. His age is legit. He also always looked his age in the face, unlike Dabone

[sisibilio]

Yeah Garuba matured early, but he wasn't throwing down Dominiesque windmill dunks and blocking shots with his head at rim height at age 12

[BadaBoom]

Yeah 13 going on 20
Look at Giannis at 19 years old and tell me Dabone is 13

Yep, saw a picture of him dunking, he has late teenager muscles definition, maybe not 20 but definitly not 13, this is absurd. No 13y of this height has that kind of muscle

[UcanUwill]

It reminds me of Usman Garuba. At 14yo he won an MVP of U-16 Euro Championship. It's Ricky Ribio territory, man...
Now, I'm not comparing that to the fact he was a scrub in NBA, lasting what, 3 years in the league (?). The shocking part is the fact he was listed at 203cm back then at 14yo - same as now at 23yo...

Usman Garuba is born in Madrid. His age is legit. He also always looked his age in the face, unlike Dabone

That only strengthens his point, which is I think, do not get carried away by barely teenager playing other teenagers, it does not mean much yet, if anything. We will see if this guy gets any playing time for real Barcelona team anyhow.

Garuba is basically s scrub, and he was semi a national prodigy once, thats the point, but Garubas career is interesting, because I feel he was better before NBA as 18 year old, than what he is now, which is very uncommon, going to Bruttos point how Larkin and Mike James dominated Euroleague, these guys as they are now are way better players than what they were when they were in college, they have NBA and other experience and were in their prime when having best years in Europe, EL rookie Mike James was freaking terrible, if he didn't massively improve he would have been just anotehr faceless nobody. Garuba is one of those guys who spent years in the NBA and Real and picked up nothing it seems, he just packed some weight and is not as switchy as before, which was his only grace to begin with, versatile defense.

Garuba I think makes me realize how good Draymond Green is, because on face value, Garuba is same player. Undersized center who is only known for passing and defense, but is terrible scorer, but Draymond is great, and Garuba is basically inept, he can make a nice pass sometimes and he will try on defense, but man he aint very good.

[UcanUwill]

The bold part... I don't know. You can find dozens of users here who bring Shane Larkin/Mike James to downplay EL in euro ball threads. Of course it's "survival bias" and they don't see/bring up dozens and dozens of successful college players who ride the bench in Eurocap or lower level.

Those are just hating NBA fans. Yes, if you look from NBA perspective, Euroleague is not very good still, a lot of the best Euroleague players wouldn't be good in the NBA, but I think even these people realized that in something like college, they had far worse players than these won national player of the year many times, if not most times.

Everyone plays Basketball as good as they can, and I think most people appreciate it is global game. But when your things better, it is human condition to diminish the ones that have it worse. A lot of Euros who hate how Americans laugh at their teams, laugh at Asians for being worse than Euros etc. thats just how it goes.

[EmpireFalls]

Yeah I typically don’t buy the age cheating allegations but when they’re this obvious it’s kind of a joke. 13 years old is simply pissing in the face of any logic whatsoever, supreme greed.

He might be 15 he might be 18. That’s where I’m confused, because if he’s actually 15/16 that’s still very good for that age. If he’s 18, though, this charade helps no one.

[peZt]

The thing is, he went viral last year already and he looked just as mature last year, so it was even more ridiculious the way he looked and moved for a supposed 12 year old. The more time passes, the less people will talk about his age because the things he is doing rn won't be as crazy at age 15. But he was doing those things in the same way at 12 already.

You wanna see something real ridiculious? This is from 14 months ago, where he was 12 playing against 17 year olds. So everyone else in this video is 4-5 years older than him. He's completely toying and bodying the best 17 year olds in Europe

Watch on YouTube

And this is what he looked like at that tournament, at age 12
NOtice how it says 6'10? He's still 6'10. The tallest 12 year old in the world apparently hasn't grown in 14 months at the age where boys grow the most




And yeah, his Fiba profile from 2023 said age 16. Officially he is born 2011. So if he was 16 in 2023 already, he is 4 years older than his listed age. Looking at his face, also in the above picture, 16 in 2023 and 18 now looks realistic

[azcatz11]

Before we start casting asparagus about Dabone's age, let's remember that Benjamin Button's disease is a serious illness that people have to deal with on a daily basis. Let's show a little compassion and leave the asparagus in the ground where they belong.

My question is what if this kid is even younger than 13....and his age was forged the opposite direction. Have you ever seen a 7 year old move like that? This kid could make Wemby look like Tyler Zeller in a few years.

[Chokic]

Mohamed bad to Dabone has just been promoted to fc barcelona 1st team.

[Doug_12]

The thing is, he went viral last year already and he looked just as mature last year, so it was even more ridiculious the way he looked and moved for a supposed 12 year old. The more time passes, the less people will talk about his age because the things he is doing rn won't be as crazy at age 15. But he was doing those things in the same way at 12 already.

You wanna see something real ridiculious? This is from 14 months ago, where he was 12 playing against 17 year olds. So everyone else in this video is 4-5 years older than him. He's completely toying and bodying the best 17 year olds in Europe

Watch on YouTube

And this is what he looked like at that tournament, at age 12
NOtice how it says 6'10? He's still 6'10. The tallest 12 year old in the world apparently hasn't grown in 14 months at the age where boys grow the most




And yeah, his Fiba profile from 2023 said age 16. Officially he is born 2011. So if he was 16 in 2023 already, he is 4 years older than his listed age. Looking at his face, also in the above picture, 16 in 2023 and 18 now looks realistic

This kid is a joke. I understand the motivation behind lying at the first place, but then, after giving a second thought: is this really worth it? These kind of ridiculous takes can ruin someone's life. When he finishes playing, what will he tell about himself to his kids? That at one point in time, I was the most hyped guy who faked his age to play against 4-5 year younger guys? 18 maybe right, but I suspect he is a bit older, along the lines of 20 or so. (His face here - which I understand is from a year ago - looks similar to rookie Lebron or 19 yo Giannis). Dominating random U17 teams while you are 19 is not a huge feat. (You have to be good of course, but a lot of 4 star recruits could do this.)

I mean, it's not that far away from when I play with my pre-schooler daughter and I look like some kind of a Jokic-Duncan hybrid.

[DaddyCool19]

That kid didn't look 12 last year and he doesn't look 13 either this year. If I didn't know about his age, looking at his build, his face and how coordinated and fluid he moves, my lowest guess would be that he is easily 16-17 years old.

[Greek]

While i agree he is older than 13 for sure, not growing more is not unheard, i had a classmate, he was 6'5 at age 12. He had the same height at age 18, we spend 6 years in the same class, so i know exactly what i am saying.

[ChumboChappati]

lot of stupid assumptions about his age in this thread leave it to experts to find out his age when it is time; since Greg Oden I have stopped figuring out the age

[elchengue20]

He's obviously not 13.

If he's 16 or 17, still a damn awesome prospect. If he's 20 or more, his ceiling is completely different.

He should be tested seriously before the Draft to know his true age.