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Re: Giannis Thread - "The Finals are different, I hope to be back soon with the Bucks" 

Post#801 » by machu46 » Tue Aug 5, 2025 3:18 pm

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midranger wrote:If you want to place a surrogate bet on the Bucks having a great year, that Doc bet is the best value. The media adores him. The media thinks we’ll be crap. The media will be talking about Doc willing the Bucks to wins despite not having Dame. A good redemption story narrative. All the extraneous things that go in to those votes would be in his favor.

Bucks win 50+ and he’s 50/50 to win that award.

80-1 is wild.

I’m thinking more about this.

They have us at 12-1 to win our division. That means more wins than the Cavs, so let’s just say they regress and were able to win it with only 52 wins.

To get to 80-1, you’d have to assume that assuming the above scenario plays out, Doc is still only about a 7-1 odds to win COTY.

That line just seems way off. If you’re a Bucks believer, it’s pretty juicy.


It's probably a blind spot for me because I'm more familiar with a certain subset of the awards voters, but the guys that I read and listen to that get to vote on these things are folks that I would say like Doc a lot as a person but would never ever ever vote for him to be COTY. Barring him becoming a completely different coach, I think we could get the 1 seed and a lot of voters still wouldn't seriously consider him. But like I said, it's probably a blindspot for me where I'm not really considering the likes of the Stephen A Smith's and such that would definitely vote for him.
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Post#802 » by machu46 » Tue Aug 5, 2025 3:21 pm

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I don't know if this makes me a hypocrite, but I am someone that enjoys being able to place some bets from my phone while also thinking gambling commercials, the obvious partnerships with sports shows, actual telecasts, etc., should all be banned.

Probably even more hypocritical of me, when I'm in states that allow it like Pennsylvania (which, of all the states, I can't believe they're one that actually allows it), I enjoy the occasional hand of blackjack, slots, etc. on my phone, but I think that should all be banned too lol. Those sorts of games in my mind should be left to actual in-person casinos. I can't really explain why I feel that way but I do.

And with all that said, I've already bet on Bucks over 42.5 wins and Giannis MVP.
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Post#803 » by emunney » Tue Aug 5, 2025 3:28 pm

midranger wrote:If you want to place a surrogate bet on the Bucks having a great year, that Doc bet is the best value. The media adores him. The media thinks we’ll be crap. The media will be talking about Doc willing the Bucks to wins despite not having Dame. A good redemption story narrative. All the extraneous things that go in to those votes would be in his favor.

Bucks win 50+ and he’s 50/50 to win that award.

80-1 is wild.


I'm telling you! The value is outrageous. Why are we so smart and Vegas is so dumb. The circumstances are ridiculously ripe.

If we win 50 games, it's almost a certainty that either Giannis or Doc win.
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Post#804 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:32 pm

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midranger wrote:If you want to place a surrogate bet on the Bucks having a great year, that Doc bet is the best value. The media adores him. The media thinks we’ll be crap. The media will be talking about Doc willing the Bucks to wins despite not having Dame. A good redemption story narrative. All the extraneous things that go in to those votes would be in his favor.

Bucks win 50+ and he’s 50/50 to win that award.

80-1 is wild.


I'm telling you! The value is outrageous. Why are we so smart and Vegas is so dumb. The circumstances are ridiculously ripe.

If we win 50 games, it's almost a certainty that either Giannis or Doc win.
Be wary of the shifting narratives. The voters could just as easily claim "Depleted East!"

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Post#805 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:28 pm

Genie is out of the bottle with sports betting. Too much money is being made. I'm sick of all the ads and promos too. You can't avoid it. I'll be heading to Poto in a week or two to make my NFL futures bets. I bet on a couple of teams to make the SB, some team wins O/U and maybe a couple of player props, passing or rushing yards, etc.. Then I generally stop there every Thursday. I bet on the national NFL games (TNF, SNF, MNF, a couple of other Sunday games and 2-3 college games). All low stakes. For basketball and baseball I make a few futures bets but very rarely bet on games or make prop bets. Too many variables.
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Post#806 » by GoldenAntlers » Tue Aug 5, 2025 9:07 pm

If one wishes to enter the realm of NBA betting having never done so what is the path of board preference? YouTube Channels that teach and explain are appreciated
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MickeyDavis wrote:Genie is out of the bottle with sports betting. Too much money is being made. I'm sick of all the ads and promos too. You can't avoid it. I'll be heading to Poto in a week or two to make my NFL futures bets. I bet on a couple of teams to make the SB, some team wins O/U and maybe a couple of player props, passing or rushing yards, etc.. Then I generally stop there every Thursday. I bet on the national NFL games (TNF, SNF, MNF, a couple of other Sunday games and 2-3 college games). All low stakes. For basketball and baseball I make a few futures bets but very rarely bet on games or make prop bets. Too many variables.
Start of the football season i deposit 100$ on Bovada and if it runs out im done for the year.

Generally only 10$ bets to make sure it last unless I build up the bank roll. Absolutely hate the season long bets

Then of course I end up losing it come playoffs when I keep rolling it over on the Packers or whoever I think is gonna win the SB

But rule of thumb. Dont bet a dollar you dont expect to lose

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Post#808 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Aug 6, 2025 12:22 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:Genie is out of the bottle with sports betting. Too much money is being made. I'm sick of all the ads and promos too. You can't avoid it. I'll be heading to Poto in a week or two to make my NFL futures bets. I bet on a couple of teams to make the SB, some team wins O/U and maybe a couple of player props, passing or rushing yards, etc.. Then I generally stop there every Thursday. I bet on the national NFL games (TNF, SNF, MNF, a couple of other Sunday games and 2-3 college games). All low stakes. For basketball and baseball I make a few futures bets but very rarely bet on games or make prop bets. Too many variables.
Start of the football season i deposit 100$ on Bovada and if it runs out im done for the year.

Generally only 10$ bets to make sure it last unless I build up the bank roll. Absolutely hate the season long bets

Then of course I end up losing it come playoffs when I keep rolling it over on the Packers or whoever I think is gonna win the SB

But rule of thumb. Dont bet a dollar you dont expect to lose

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Pretty much how I do it, too. Tiny little bets for fun. I've thrown in some F1 bets over the last couple years. Makes the races fun to watch.
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Post#809 » by TonySnellJr » Wed Aug 6, 2025 7:02 pm

Greece win their first friendly against Belgium 74-60. Giannis did not play but was on the bench.

Looking like it will take a superhuman effort from Giannis for Greece to make a deep run this EuroBasket. They have a couple solid players in Mitoglu/Dorsey. Some vets who can still play but their age is starting to show in Sloukas/Papanikolaou. Larentzakis and Toliopoulos can shoot and have shown up in big moments. But overall the talent and depth on the team is quite poor and they really are lacking in shooters.

Good to see Thanasis playing again. Honestly looks like he's recovered well from the achilles injury. Same player as always, not very skilled, not very good at basketball but he's athletic and plays hard as hell. Kostas Antetokounmpo could make an impact too as the 3rd big (big man depth being something this roster really lacks).

Panagiotis Kalaitzakis (twin brother of Bucks 2021 draft pick Georgios Kalaitzakis) is also on the team.

This isn't a very deep year for EuroBasket teams in general though. Serbia will be an absolute powerhouse and has to be the favorite led by Jokic and a roster filled with quality NBA and Euroleague players. Germany will be a very tough out and have had the Greeks number for years now. France, Turkey, Latvia, and Spain are all talented and could pose a threat. The Greeks have a very real chance to medal although it might rely on them avoiding Serbia and to a lesser extent Germany early in the knockouts.
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Post#810 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 1:36 pm

TonySnellJr wrote:Greece win their first friendly against Belgium 74-60. Giannis did not play but was on the bench.

Looking like it will take a superhuman effort from Giannis for Greece to make a deep run this EuroBasket. They have a couple solid players in Mitoglu/Dorsey. Some vets who can still play but their age is starting to show in Sloukas/Papanikolaou. Larentzakis and Toliopoulos can shoot and have shown up in big moments. But overall the talent and depth on the team is quite poor and they really are lacking in shooters.

Good to see Thanasis playing again. Honestly looks like he's recovered well from the achilles injury. Same player as always, not very skilled, not very good at basketball but he's athletic and plays hard as hell. Kostas Antetokounmpo could make an impact too as the 3rd big (big man depth being something this roster really lacks).

Panagiotis Kalaitzakis (twin brother of Bucks 2021 draft pick Georgios Kalaitzakis) is also on the team.

This isn't a very deep year for EuroBasket teams in general though. Serbia will be an absolute powerhouse and has to be the favorite led by Jokic and a roster filled with quality NBA and Euroleague players. Germany will be a very tough out and have had the Greeks number for years now. France, Turkey, Latvia, and Spain are all talented and could pose a threat. The Greeks have a very real chance to medal although it might rely on them avoiding Serbia and to a lesser extent Germany early in the knockouts.


Yeah, much has also been made about Rogavopoulos and Papagiannis snubbing their invitations due to friction with Spanoulis.

Honestly, I prefer Sloukas and Dorsey flanking Giannis on the perimeter as opposed to Calathes and Walkup, who were poor shooters despite being good defenders.
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Post#811 » by Sigra » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:44 am

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Two-time NBA MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo has yet to begin his preparations for the Euro 2020 (August 27-September 14) with Greece. A default on his insurance payments could explain his absence from the field.

The local portal SDNA revealed that the real reason for the absence of the former NBA MVP is not an injury, as stated by the Federation, but an unpaid insurance policy where the Milwaukee Bucks play a significant role.

Sources close to the top of the Greek federation indicate that everything possible is being done, but that the 'ball is in Giannis's club's court.'

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Post#812 » by Jstock12 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:36 pm

Bucks should ban Giannis from competing in the EuroBasket. It's a pointless tournament anyway (as it doesn't act as a qualification for the World Cup or Olympics anymore), and Greece has almost no chance to win it (Serbia is virtually guaranteed to steamroll everyone with their full squad). And Giannis will be turning 31 in a few months. Minimize the risk of injury as much as possible. It just doesn't make any sense to take this risk from the Bucks POV. They were kind enough to let Giannis compete for many years already.
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Post#813 » by Licensed to Il » Wed Aug 13, 2025 10:32 pm

Jstock12 wrote:Bucks should ban Giannis from competing in the EuroBasket. It's a pointless tournament anyway (as it doesn't act as a qualification for the World Cup or Olympics anymore), and Greece has almost no chance to win it (Serbia is virtually guaranteed to steamroll everyone with their full squad). And Giannis will be turning 31 in a few months. Minimize the risk of injury as much as possible. It just doesn't make any sense to take this risk from the Bucks POV. They were kind enough to let Giannis compete for many years already.


Counterpoint: The Bucks letting Giannis do the things he is passionate about (playing for Greece, having his brother on the team) is a huge component of why he is so loyal to them. I totally agree that him playing in the tourney is dumb from every other perspective.
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Post#814 » by nagawicka » Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:58 am

Jstock12 wrote:Bucks should ban Giannis from competing in the EuroBasket. It's a pointless tournament anyway (as it doesn't act as a qualification for the World Cup or Olympics anymore), and Greece has almost no chance to win it (Serbia is virtually guaranteed to steamroll everyone with their full squad). And Giannis will be turning 31 in a few months. Minimize the risk of injury as much as possible. It just doesn't make any sense to take this risk from the Bucks POV. They were kind enough to let Giannis compete for many years already.

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Post#815 » by emunney » Thu Aug 14, 2025 4:05 am

1. Giannis is a Bucks employee, not Bucks property.
2. The Hellenic Basketball Federation should be paying to insure him, as they are the beneficiaries of Giannis playing the tournament, and the Bucks' liabilities are already literally immeasurable.
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Post#816 » by Jstock12 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:10 am

Licensed to Il wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Bucks should ban Giannis from competing in the EuroBasket. It's a pointless tournament anyway (as it doesn't act as a qualification for the World Cup or Olympics anymore), and Greece has almost no chance to win it (Serbia is virtually guaranteed to steamroll everyone with their full squad). And Giannis will be turning 31 in a few months. Minimize the risk of injury as much as possible. It just doesn't make any sense to take this risk from the Bucks POV. They were kind enough to let Giannis compete for many years already.


Counterpoint: The Bucks letting Giannis do the things he is passionate about (playing for Greece, having his brother on the team) is a huge component of why he is so loyal to them. I totally agree that him playing in the tourney is dumb from every other perspective.

It's a good point. Although there's also a possibility that Giannis in some part would be glad if the Bucks didn't allow him to participate. If you're the best player in your country by a mile, and the country has such a rabid basketball fanbase as Greece, it can be very difficult to say NO to the national team for various reasons. Giannis isn't a 24 year old anymore. He has a young family with wife and 4 kids - I have no doubt that he'd be very content with spending 1-2 extra months with them, instead of fighting the impossible battle at the EuroBasket.
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Post#817 » by AussieBuck » Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:12 am

Jstock12 wrote:
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Jstock12 wrote:Bucks should ban Giannis from competing in the EuroBasket. It's a pointless tournament anyway (as it doesn't act as a qualification for the World Cup or Olympics anymore), and Greece has almost no chance to win it (Serbia is virtually guaranteed to steamroll everyone with their full squad). And Giannis will be turning 31 in a few months. Minimize the risk of injury as much as possible. It just doesn't make any sense to take this risk from the Bucks POV. They were kind enough to let Giannis compete for many years already.


Counterpoint: The Bucks letting Giannis do the things he is passionate about (playing for Greece, having his brother on the team) is a huge component of why he is so loyal to them. I totally agree that him playing in the tourney is dumb from every other perspective.

It's a good point. Although there's also a possibility that Giannis in some part would be glad if the Bucks didn't allow him to participate. If you're the best player in your country by a mile, and the country has such a rabid basketball fanbase as Greece, it can be very difficult to say NO to the national team for various reasons. Giannis isn't a 24 year old anymore. He has a young family with wife and 4 kids - I have no doubt that he'd be very content with spending 1-2 extra months with them, instead of fighting the impossible battle at the EuroBasket.

Giannis ain't dodging playing for his country.

Everything else is say won't fit in the forum rules but he's going to care more about the national team than his club and that's totally cool and normal with maybe most of us. Sucks the national team is almost implausibly bad but that's where we're at.
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Post#818 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:05 pm

emunney wrote:1. Giannis is a Bucks employee, not Bucks property.

You should read R/overemployed. Most US companies will instantly fire someone when they find out they have second job even if a high performer. (Just bringing it up because you are putting it as simple as he is a "Bucks employee" for someone who makes $55m a year.) Those subreddits are fascinating reads.

But yeah, let Giannis do whatever the hell he wants. He has earned it.
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Post#819 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:24 pm

From what I've read, FIBA is simply waiting for a written consent from the Bucks. Interesting how insurance policies between sports leagues and confederations work. My guess is that I don't think Horst or the ownership are going to deny him the opportunity to play. I can certainly see why the organization would be reticent to allow it.
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