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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#801 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:24 am

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yup a mod just did that for the traffic, slow happenings the past few weeks.

Im ok with it i have to remind the homers here that Herro is a limited one dimensional, no defense playing, guard that depends on very high volume for ok numbers. And just got made a bitch by Ty Jerome.

Does not have the athleticism to do anything with the ball if his shot is not falling

His tier (Sexton, Giddey, Beal, Lavine) is outside the top 20 in guard play in the league and yet he wants to be paid 50 million per, and there are lunatic fans that say he is worth that.

He is Jordan Clarkson prime with higher volume.

But hey, lets put a statue of him in front of Wade, no one likes to see Wade statue’s face anyways it scares the birds


I’d be fine giving him $100M per, $50M is an absolute steal for arguably the best offensive player in the world.

Genuinely curious, do you think Luka is worth $50M but Herro isn’t?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#802 » by Hallstar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 3:18 am

It's hilarious how in all the confusion of the last playoffs, Evan Mobley slid clear pass our franchise cornerstone and nobody gave a ****. But we'll argue with noone for 3 pages about a random Herro tweet.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#803 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:14 am

A good self check to do every so often is to pull up ones last 10 posts (few days worth of output for most average posters) and ask yourself: am I bringing value to the board? Is my criticism constructive, whether that be for players, coaches, or the FO? Or am I just ranting or trolling (or putting batteries in the back of other posters to troll). Some guys you cant expect much from, but Vertical you should be better.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#804 » by Vertical Limit » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:36 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:A good self check to do every so often is to pull up ones last 10 posts (few days worth of output for most average posters) and ask yourself: am I bringing value to the board? Is my criticism constructive, whether that be for players, coaches, or the FO? Or am I just ranting or trolling (or putting batteries in the back of other posters to troll). Some guys you cant expect much from, but Vertical you should be better.

Its not ranting if its true.

And unlike most who respond with personal attacks, some on DM’s, i never reply to anyone directly with an attack, i ignore those posts.

Back to Herro….There is a little part of the Miami Heat that wants to do the most destructive thing possible to our franchise, and that would be paying Herro like he is a franchise caliber player. And he may try to push for it as he gets pushed out of the franchise (Riley).

I will say it again, no player has earned an extension, we have potentially 90 million of expirings with Wiggins opting out, we can have another 30M more by moving Herro at the deadline or in the 2026 offseason. We are in the perfect position to really blow it up and start a new era of the Heat.

No extensions, no more bad contracts, if Herro and Bam does not look like 2004/2005 Wade & Shaq this upcoming season, move on. Not worthy to build forward. We are not the Wizards. We are the **** Heat. We actually have a championship standard to live up to.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#805 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:42 pm

Hallstar wrote:It's hilarious how in all the confusion of the last playoffs, Evan Mobley slid clear pass our franchise cornerstone and nobody gave a ****. But we'll argue with noone for 3 pages about a random Herro tweet.


If only we could make such a judgement based on a 4 game sample size where one guy is getting spoon fed nonstop open looks due to blow bys on the perimeter while the other is responsible for creating his own offense majority of the time. Bam would be better than Giannis and Embiid after what he’s done to them in playoff series. Remove Donovan Mitchell and Bam is a more decorated player than the entire Cavs roster and has more playoff moments than all of them combined :lol:

Mobleys best season of his career is a down year for Bam, he just plays on a super stacked team with elite guard play to get him great looks.

Attack Herro (like every player on the opposing team) and I’m the bad guy, defend Herro and I’m the bad guy. I can’t win!!!
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Post#806 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:47 pm

I just checked a certain posters last 10, it’s a lot of complaining and snarky remarks either at or “sub posting” posters he disagrees with as he pretends to ignore them.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#807 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:49 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:A good self check to do every so often is to pull up ones last 10 posts (few days worth of output for most average posters) and ask yourself: am I bringing value to the board? Is my criticism constructive, whether that be for players, coaches, or the FO? Or am I just ranting or trolling (or putting batteries in the back of other posters to troll). Some guys you cant expect much from, but Vertical you should be better.

Its not ranting if its true.

And unlike most who respond with personal attacks, some on DM’s, i never reply to anyone directly with an attack, i ignore those posts.

Back to Herro….There is a little part of the Miami Heat that wants to do the most destructive thing possible to our franchise, and that would be paying Herro like he is a franchise caliber player. And he may try to push for it as he gets pushed out of the franchise (Riley).

I will say it again, no player has earned an extension, we have potentially 90 million of expirings with Wiggins opting out, we can have another 30M more by moving Herro at the deadline or in the 2026 offseason. We are in the perfect position to really blow it up and start a new era of the Heat.

No extensions, no more bad contracts, if Herro and Bam does not look like 2004/2005 Wade & Shaq this upcoming season, move on. Not worthy to build forward. We are not the Wizards. We are the **** Heat. We actually have a championship standard to live up to.


We do not have championship expectations ever since Wade left for Chicago. Barry has told you all this, the Heat are happy with their success, now they’re focused operating a business
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Post#808 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:53 pm

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Post#809 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:57 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#810 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:08 pm

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Its not ranting if its true.

And unlike most who respond with personal attacks, some on DM’s, i never reply to anyone directly with an attack, i ignore those posts.

Back to Herro….There is a little part of the Miami Heat that wants to do the most destructive thing possible to our franchise, and that would be paying Herro like he is a franchise caliber player. And he may try to push for it as he gets pushed out of the franchise (Riley).

I will say it again, no player has earned an extension, we have potentially 90 million of expirings with Wiggins opting out, we can have another 30M more by moving Herro at the deadline or in the 2026 offseason. We are in the perfect position to really blow it up and start a new era of the Heat.

No extensions, no more bad contracts, if Herro and Bam does not look like 2004/2005 Wade & Shaq this upcoming season, move on. Not worthy to build forward. We are not the Wizards. We are the **** Heat. We actually have a championship standard to live up to.

Herro and Bam are not 04/05 Wade-Shaq caliber players, no need to wait for the upcoming season to find out. You're talking about a guy that's probably top 10 all time and another that's likely top 25. If the barometer is "if they're not a top 20 player of all time we need to move on" we'll be in a perpetual rebuild for the next 20 years.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#811 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 3:12 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#812 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Aug 14, 2025 4:30 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:[
Its not ranting if its true.

And unlike most who respond with personal attacks, some on DM’s, i never reply to anyone directly with an attack, i ignore those posts.

Back to Herro….There is a little part of the Miami Heat that wants to do the most destructive thing possible to our franchise, and that would be paying Herro like he is a franchise caliber player. And he may try to push for it as he gets pushed out of the franchise (Riley).

I will say it again, no player has earned an extension, we have potentially 90 million of expirings with Wiggins opting out, we can have another 30M more by moving Herro at the deadline or in the 2026 offseason. We are in the perfect position to really blow it up and start a new era of the Heat.

No extensions, no more bad contracts, if Herro and Bam does not look like 2004/2005 Wade & Shaq this upcoming season, move on. Not worthy to build forward. We are not the Wizards. We are the **** Heat. We actually have a championship standard to live up to.

Herro and Bam are not 04/05 Wade-Shaq caliber players, no need to wait for the upcoming season to find out. You're talking about a guy that's probably top 10 all time and another that's likely top 25. If the barometer is "if they're not a top 20 player of all time we need to move on" we'll be in a perpetual rebuild for the next 20 years.


I honestly forgot which poster said so all credit to him, Herro and Bam were compared to Eddie Jones and Zo light and it all clicked. No one is saying they are bad player but they are also not enough if that makes sense, they are great complementary players which is not a knock, it’s just that we desperately need more.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#813 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 6:08 pm

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I honestly forgot which poster said so all credit to him, Herro and Bam were compared to Eddie Jones and Zo light and it all clicked. No one is saying they are bad player but they are also not enough if that makes sense, they are great complementary players which is not a knock, it’s just that we desperately need more.

Since we're talking in hypotheticals I'll do something unconventional and take the glass half full approach. We just added a 20 ppg scorer, and we only saw 17 games of Wiggins. If you can integrate these guys, and if two of your young players (Ware, Jaime, Jovic, Pelle) can take a significant leap forward..we just saw a team lay the blueprint for how you can compete with depth and versatility.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#814 » by Hallstar » Thu Aug 14, 2025 6:26 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
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I honestly forgot which poster said so all credit to him, Herro and Bam were compared to Eddie Jones and Zo light and it all clicked. No one is saying they are bad player but they are also not enough if that makes sense, they are great complementary players which is not a knock, it’s just that we desperately need more.

Since we're talking in hypotheticals I'll do something unconventional and take the glass half full approach. We just added a 20 ppg scorer, and we only saw 17 games of Wiggins. If you can integrate these guys, and if two of your young players (Ware, Jaime, Jovic, Pelle) can take a significant leap forward..we just saw a team lay the blueprint for how you can compete with depth and versatility.

Which is why to me it's on Spo to create a system around these dudes. Last year we were at a significant talent deficit for most of the year. Now we brought in a legit secondary guard scorer who's been efficient everywhere he's been. Bam and Herro will be some improved version of themselves even if slightly..Jovic is looking for his money and should be locked in.

If it's February and people are still looking for roles we've already lost
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Post#815 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Thu Aug 14, 2025 6:51 pm

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Top 4 should be unanimous, then you can mix and match after that!

I don’t like Jimmy over Zo, at all.
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Post#816 » by DBurks2818 » Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:08 pm

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I like it. IMO, just one title gets Bam to #5.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#817 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:10 pm

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Top 4 should be unanimous, then you can mix and match after that!

I don’t like Jimmy over Zo, at all.


I guess it depends on what you value, Zo was the more decorated regular season player while Jimmy was the far superior postseason performer playing at levels we’ve never seen outside of Wade and LeBron
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#818 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:12 pm

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I like it. IMO, just one title gets Bam to #5.


Unfortunately unless the league gifts us someone like they did the Lakers with Luka I don’t see this team winning a championship any time soon :(
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