Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die

[Coxy]

Would love to get Vuc on a min.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Luka extends at 3/165.

He'd be the third highest player....on the dubs,

[whatisacenter]

Would love to get Vuc on a min.

Do you think he provides more than Post? Seems like Post outplayed him head to head last season in his rookie season and is cheaper.

If Horford is truly signing here might be better off spending the vet min somewhere else.

[statsman]

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With Niang gone, do the Celtics try to keep Horford? Or is this just another case of the Celtics trying to shed salary this season?

[statsman]

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So, maybe Boucher takes the frontcourt minutes? The flip from Niang to Boucher saves the Celtics $5.9M in salary and puts them about $4M above the 1st apron but close to $8M below the 2nd apron.

[Onus]

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With Niang gone, do the Celtics try to keep Horford? Or is this just another case of the Celtics trying to shed salary this season?

Shed salary. I’m shocked they were able to shed so much salary without dumping any real assets.

[statsman]

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With Niang gone, do the Celtics try to keep Horford? Or is this just another case of the Celtics trying to shed salary this season?

Shed salary. I’m shocked they were able to shed so much salary without dumping any real assets.

The Celtics and the Jazz (Ainge's son is now president of basketball operations). None of this is a surprise.

[whatisacenter]

I liked RJ Luis Jr for the Warriors in the draft...will be interesting to see if he gets a 2-way with the Celtics or not.

[vvoland]

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With Niang gone, do the Celtics try to keep Horford? Or is this just another case of the Celtics trying to shed salary this season?

Shed salary. I’m shocked they were able to shed so much salary without dumping any real assets.

Funny how Danny Ainge's son got the GM job and it's barely news while bronny got a guaranteed min contract and a trip to the g League and was the lead story for like 6 months.

One controls an entire NBA franchise, the other doesn't play on the big league team. The double standard is crazy and I'm not even a fan of LeBron or Bronny

[statsman]

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With Niang gone, do the Celtics try to keep Horford? Or is this just another case of the Celtics trying to shed salary this season?

Shed salary. I’m shocked they were able to shed so much salary without dumping any real assets.

Funny how Danny Ainge's son got the GM job and it's barely news while bronny got a guaranteed min contract and a trip to the g League and was the lead story for like 6 months.

One controls an entire NBA franchise, the other doesn't play on the big league team. The double standard is crazy and I'm not even a fan of LeBron or Bronny

I believe Ainge's son became president of basketball operations. Justin Zanik is the GM of the Jazz.

[vvoland]

Shed salary. I’m shocked they were able to shed so much salary without dumping any real assets.

Funny how Danny Ainge's son got the GM job and it's barely news while bronny got a guaranteed min contract and a trip to the g League and was the lead story for like 6 months.

One controls an entire NBA franchise, the other doesn't play on the big league team. The double standard is crazy and I'm not even a fan of LeBron or Bronny

I believe Ainge's son became president of basketball operations. Justin Zanik is the GM of the Jazz.

You are correct though that may be a difference without a distinction. I'll amend to "key decision maker" and the overall point still stands

[donkeylips]

Any chance niang gets bought out?

[azwfan]

Funny how Danny Ainge's son got the GM job and it's barely news while bronny got a guaranteed min contract and a trip to the g League and was the lead story for like 6 months.

One controls an entire NBA franchise, the other doesn't play on the big league team. The double standard is crazy and I'm not even a fan of LeBron or Bronny

I believe Ainge's son became president of basketball operations. Justin Zanik is the GM of the Jazz.

You are correct though that may be a difference without a distinction. I'll amend to "key decision maker" and the overall point still stands

Steve Kerr’s son has some role in the Warriors organization also. Think Jerry West’s kid has a role in the league. At least mdjr played in the league. Im not sure if this is a race thing or a hierarchy thing (players having personnel influence vs front office). Either way, oh well!

[whatisacenter]

I believe Ainge's son became president of basketball operations. Justin Zanik is the GM of the Jazz.

You are correct though that may be a difference without a distinction. I'll amend to "key decision maker" and the overall point still stands

Steve Kerr’s son has some role in the Warriors organization also. Think Jerry West’s kid has a role in the league. At least mdjr played in the league. Im not sure if this is a race thing or a hierarchy thing (players having personnel influence vs front office). Either way, oh well!

Comparing Bronny to Nicholas Kerr is silly.

Yeah, both of their dads are in the NBA, but Nick started out as a development coach/video coordinator with the Warriors before going down to SC to be an assistant coach for 2 years, then a HC(with success) for 2 years and is now an assistant coach with the big club. He paid his dues....Bronny sucked one year in college and then got a guaranteed NBA contract solely because of his dad.

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[BayAreaDub]

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Lol some of these dudes need to come back down to earth. Salaries are leveling out.

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Lol some of these dudes need to come back down to earth. Salaries are leveling out.

I don't know if it is a leveling out thing, but there is definitely an element of "right place at the right time". Someone needs to help him understand that
a) even if everyone in the league thought he was worth $40m (he's not), pretty much nobody could pay him that
b) even if his own team *could* pay him that, it is a business, and they aren't going to bid against themself

The new CBA is just ruthless. Both to some teams and some players.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Lol some of these dudes need to come back down to earth. Salaries are leveling out.

I don't know if it is a leveling out thing, but there is definitely an element of "right place at the right time". Someone needs to help him understand that
a) even if everyone in the league thought he was worth $40m (he's not), pretty much nobody could pay him that
b) even if his own team *could* pay him that, it is a business, and they aren't going to bid against themself

The new CBA is just ruthless. Both to some teams and some players.

I dont think it's just the cba.

If the talent is there, teams will pay. I mean book just got ridiculously overpaid.

Imo, teams are looking at more at team success where 1 way players have become a liability unless they are a gravitational. Gone are the days where you get paid solely on ppg.

If jk was a 2 way, Marion type? He's getting paid.

Offensive players who don't defend are getting killed.
Defensive players who cant shoot are taking min deals or looking for work outside the NBA.

Teams are trying to correct themselves and using the cba to do it. Mjd got off poole at the right time.

Herro and reeves will be interesting case studies.

[vvoland]

Lol some of these dudes need to come back down to earth. Salaries are leveling out.

I don't know if it is a leveling out thing, but there is definitely an element of "right place at the right time". Someone needs to help him understand that
a) even if everyone in the league thought he was worth $40m (he's not), pretty much nobody could pay him that
b) even if his own team *could* pay him that, it is a business, and they aren't going to bid against themself

The new CBA is just ruthless. Both to some teams and some players.

I dont think it's just the cba.

If the talent is there, teams will pay. I mean book just got ridiculously overpaid.

Imo, teams are looking at more at team success where 1 way players have become a liability unless they are a gravitational. Gone are the days where you get paid solely on ppg.

If jk was a 2 way, Marion type? He's getting paid.

Offensive players who don't defend are getting killed.
Defensive players who cant shoot are taking min deals or looking for work outside the NBA.

Teams are trying to correct themselves and using the cba to do it. Mjd got off poole at the right time.

Herro and reeves will be interesting case studies.

zach lowe is expecting Reeves to get 40 and thinks he shouldn't sign an extension in the 30M range. I don't agree but he's an actual reporter with sources and everything so I'd trust that number unless I hear otherwise.

[vvoland]

You are correct though that may be a difference without a distinction. I'll amend to "key decision maker" and the overall point still stands

Steve Kerr’s son has some role in the Warriors organization also. Think Jerry West’s kid has a role in the league. At least mdjr played in the league. Im not sure if this is a race thing or a hierarchy thing (players having personnel influence vs front office). Either way, oh well!

Comparing Bronny to Nicholas Kerr is silly.

Yeah, both of their dads are in the NBA, but Nick started out as a development coach/video coordinator with the Warriors before going down to SC to be an assistant coach for 2 years, then a HC(with success) for 2 years and is now an assistant coach with the big club. He paid his dues....Bronny sucked one year in college and then got a guaranteed NBA contract solely because of his dad.

Bronny was a highly recruited HS player that had a HEART ATTACK as a freshman and got drafted in the late 2nd due to who his dad is. He got a guaranteed contract but that's about it for the nepotism angle. How many people did Nick Kerr (or any of the lacob kids) beat out to get their foot in the door as development coach/front office execs? Not all nepo babies are inept. Some are talented. All of them got their start on the strength of their last names, not because Nick Kerr, or Kirk, or Johnny West, had a proven track record of success at developing basketball talent.

Bronny has been a solid g-league player as a 19 year, 1 year removed from a heart attack, which is much more than I can say for most 2nd round picks. Considering we picked Alex Toohey (i coulda went w/ smailagic, who, I believe, was a nepo baby's favorite prospect), you really think Bronny is a bad pick at 55?