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If Curry were to retire today... 

Post#1 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:39 pm

As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?
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Post#2 » by Onus » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:54 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?

Tear it all down.
Trade Dray and Butler.
Wemby but since that's never happening I'm hoping to draft the next superstar by being terrible for years. The 27 draft is supposed to be terrible.
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Post#3 » by statsman » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:56 pm

Retiring today would be rough. No one really to sign or trade for. Next offseason may not be much better.

A more realistic question might have been what if Curry were to retire at the end of his extension in two years? Butler and Draymond expire that same offseason. The 2027 offseason will reportedly be quite active with free agents.
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Post#4 » by Onus » Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:32 pm

statsman wrote:Retiring today would be rough. No one really to sign or trade for. Next offseason may not be much better.

A more realistic question might have been what if Curry were to retire at the end of his extension in two years? Butler and Draymond expire that same offseason. The 2027 offseason will reportedly be quite active with free agents.

It sounds like Steph wants to keep playing. IDK if he can still maintain his form at 39 but if he wants to compete he'd have to take a major pay cut. We'd absolutely need another 2nd option to replace Jimmy and a defensive anchor to replace Dray. 27 won't be pretty regardless, going to need a major overhaul. Seriously I'd be fine with a Kobe farewell tank type season.

Think this is our last real year of having a shot. 26 will be an even longer shot. 27 is most likely a tear it all down type situation. Anyone know what the 28 draft is looking like? When is Dabone going to be draft eligible?
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Post#5 » by HiRez » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:36 pm

Burn it down, trade absolutely everyone who isn't on a rookie contract (and maybe even them too if they net you good picks), and tank it out for when there's a heavy draft and available free agents. If you can turn your picks into Giannis, I guess you gotta take a shot at it, but if he's all you have and it'll still take 2+ years to build and develop around him then it's probably not going to end well anyway (he's going to be 31 this year).

If I'm looking at trading assets for a big player, I want a guy entering his prime, like 24-27, not a vet who's going to be declining by the time the team is in contention. If not then just stockpile picks and take your shots in the draft. Looking for all the usual things you would want: shooting, size/length, BBIQ, high motor, great hands, and 2-way players who aren't compromising your lineup when they're on the floor.

If you manage to hook a really big fish and can see a short timeline to contention, maybe you retain Kerr, otherwise no.
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Post#6 » by vvoland » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:03 pm

HiRez wrote:Burn it down, trade absolutely everyone who isn't on a rookie contract (and maybe even them too if they net you good picks), and tank it out for when there's a heavy draft and available free agents. If you can turn your picks into Giannis, I guess you gotta take a shot at it, but if he's all you have and it'll still take 2+ years to build and develop around him then it's probably not going to end well anyway (he's going to be 31 this year).

If I'm looking at trading assets for a big player, I want a guy entering his prime, like 24-27, not a vet who's going to be declining by the time the team is in contention. If not then just stockpile picks and take your shots in the draft. Looking for all the usual things you would want: shooting, size/length, BBIQ, high motor, great hands, and 2-way players who aren't compromising your lineup when they're on the floor.

If you manage to hook a really big fish and can see a short timeline to contention, maybe you retain Kerr, otherwise no.


First, I'd ask, what made steph retire so abruptly and does Kerr/MDJ/Lacob/All need to go? Not that I have any say in the matter, but that's where my thoughts would go. After that, yes, build the statue immediately, trade everybody and their brother (including both Kerrs), and start from scratch by giving sam presti a stake in the org. Or stevens. Or I'll let the experts provide the rest of the names (there aren't a lot more). The bolded part is the most important.
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Post#7 » by Old_Blue » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:23 pm

I don't want to think about the day Curry retires. Nothing will ever be the same. I don't know the current state of human cloning technology, but the team should be preparing for a full on Boys from Brazil effort at replicating the greatest shooter to ever play the game. And, no, I do not think Canon has it in him to follow in Steph's footsteps. Kid looks like he's going to top out at about 5'6" if he's lucky.
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Post#8 » by vvoland » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:01 pm

Old_Blue wrote:I don't want to think about the day Curry retires. Nothing will ever be the same. I don't know the current state of human cloning technology, but the team should be preparing for a full on Boys from Brazil effort at replicating the greatest shooter to ever play the game. And, no, I do not think Canon has it in him to follow in Steph's footsteps. Kid looks like he's going to top out at about 5'6" if he's lucky.


I think your plan is better than any i've heard, yet.
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Post#9 » by Coxy » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:30 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?


1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team? Throught the draft, slashing the payroll costs.
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? I'd leave it up to Steve, but I would think we would keep him for a few seasons if he was up for the rebuild, and see how he does.
3) Trade Draymond and/or Butler? I'd never trade Draymond, he'll be our next long term head coach. Draymond is smarter than people think, and he'll be great when he moves on from his playing days. Butler I would trade if possible.
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era? None at this stage. I'm building through the draft and giving young guys the playing time. If I'm signing free agents, I'm signing high quality vets that will teach and set the right standards both and off court for a young group of guys to learn from.
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Post#10 » by marthafokker » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:41 pm

Trade Kerr this off season to NYK if Curry retired right after the season. Kerr has more value as draft asset than rebuild.

Trade everyone away for more picks. Play JK and pad his stats to get more picks.

Sucks for 7 years in the OKC model. Just that our management suck balls unlike OKC. So maybe another 40 years before someone like Curry happened again.
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Post#11 » by vvoland » Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:57 pm

marthafokker wrote:Trade Kerr this off season to NYK if Curry retired right after the season. Kerr has more value as draft asset than rebuild.

Trade everyone away for more picks. Play JK and pad his stats to get more picks.

Sucks for 7 years in the OKC model. Just that our management suck balls unlike OKC. So maybe another 40 years before someone like Curry happened again.



IF kerr is willing to help the franchise, trading him to NY for future picks would be amazing. Trading everyone, right now, but podz, post, jk, and moody would be the right move. Play those 4 enough to build up value while, immediately, being in pole position in one of the deepest drafts for mvp level talent in recent memory. Trade them in a year or two for more assets to compliment the picks you make now. All of this is moot, you can have the best picks but pick todd fuller over kobe. Like we did for decades. DECADES.

STEP 1 HAS to be, hire the best GM in the business. Lacob did that once and whether this dynasty was 5% jerry west or 25% or 50%, i don't care. I'm convinced it doesn't happen without him. At the very least, we trade Klay for Kevin Love with West threatening to quit over it before we ever get to find out. Just give Presti 2%, right now, and kill the OKC dynasty why, probably, extending your own. Come on, Lacob - I'm doing your work for you.

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Post#12 » by Romulus » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:02 am

With this roster? He SHOULD retire today. Lacob has given him no shot to compete for anything meaningful.
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Post#13 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:35 pm

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Post#14 » by Larry Ellison » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:16 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?


Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.
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Post#15 » by vvoland » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:38 pm

Larry Ellison wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?


Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.


There's no chance Dray has the temperament to coach. If he almost killed JP3 while a still a teammate, can you imagine what he'd do as a head coach? I never thought the reverse carlisimo was possible but with Dray as HC, it's almost certain.
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Post#16 » by Old_Blue » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:01 pm

vvoland wrote:
Larry Ellison wrote:Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.


There's no chance Dray has the temperament to coach. If he almost killed JP3 while a still a teammate, can you imagine what he'd do as a head coach? I never thought the reverse carlisimo was possible but with Dray as HC, it's almost certain.


Come on now. Who wouldn't want to watch Draymond coaching Isiah Stewart? For the safety of the fans, you'd need the bench to be in a UFC style cage. :D

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Post#17 » by Larry Ellison » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:21 pm

vvoland wrote:
Larry Ellison wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:As GM:

1) What direction will you take a rebuilding team?
2) Fire or keep Steve Kerr? Trade Draymond and/or Butler?
3) With more cap space, which Allstar/Superstar player would you convince to sign to a max deal, post-Curry era?


Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.


There's no chance Dray has the temperament to coach. If he almost killed JP3 while a still a teammate, can you imagine what he'd do as a head coach? I never thought the reverse carlisimo was possible but with Dray as HC, it's almost certain.


He has the BBIQ, credibility as a HOF player with 4 rings, institutional history and the ability to work with our owner and GM, competitive drive to motivate players and hold them accountable. He checks a lot of boxes. He will need to mellow out a bit and grow into the role. Other coaches have needed time to hit their ceiling. Jason Kidd washed out of his first two coaching stops. I'm sure there are other examples. Dray is a polarizing guy and he obviously was in the wrong with the Poole punch, Gobert choke, etc. But the talent is there. He could be a tremendous coach.
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Post#18 » by Old_Blue » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:27 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Use THIS approach.

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We see what you did here. :lol:
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Post#19 » by vvoland » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:51 pm

Old_Blue wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Larry Ellison wrote:Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.


There's no chance Dray has the temperament to coach. If he almost killed JP3 while a still a teammate, can you imagine what he'd do as a head coach? I never thought the reverse carlisimo was possible but with Dray as HC, it's almost certain.


Come on now. Who wouldn't want to watch Draymond coaching Isiah Stewart? For the safety of the fans, you'd need the bench to be in a UFC style cage. :D



I mean, this IS an entertainment business and I would pay to watch that coaching huddle, no doubt about it.
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Post#20 » by vvoland » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:57 pm

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vvoland wrote:
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Agree with Coxy that Draymond is our next head coach. Do not trade.


There's no chance Dray has the temperament to coach. If he almost killed JP3 while a still a teammate, can you imagine what he'd do as a head coach? I never thought the reverse carlisimo was possible but with Dray as HC, it's almost certain.


He has the BBIQ, credibility as a HOF player with 4 rings, institutional history and the ability to work with our owner and GM, competitive drive to motivate players and hold them accountable. He checks a lot of boxes. He will need to mellow out a bit and grow into the role. Other coaches have needed time to hit their ceiling. Jason Kidd washed out of his first two coaching stops. I'm sure there are other examples. Dray is a polarizing guy and he obviously was in the wrong with the Poole punch, Gobert choke, etc. But the talent is there. He could be a tremendous coach.


I agree, he has ALL of the qualities I'd want in my coach except one - equanimity. I don't think any amount of growing into the role will allow him to control his temper. He's done as good a job of keeping a lid on it after the suspension as I could have hoped for, at the time. It is still far short of being the kind of personality he would need to be able to coach superstars, millionaires, and teenagers, all at once.

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