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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#141 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:40 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
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I’m not an advanced stats guy. I just watch the games. My eye test tells me Mahomes and Allen are a tier above
Lol ok azcats, based on nothing. About as useful as a fart in the wind. Good talk buddy.


Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked

Fwiw Geno is extremely accurate. He's been near the top in completion percentage (70%) the last 3 years. I guess that makes him elite? :wink:
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#142 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:42 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:You ranked him 6th lmaooooo


There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason

Yet Burrow is the only other QB besides Brady to beat Mahomes in Kansas City and go to a Super Bowl. I disagree with you and Jack on this one.


Burrow's numbers are inflated because he has the best weapons in the league and a historical bad defense.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#143 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:30 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
I’m not an advanced stats guy. I just watch the games. My eye test tells me Mahomes and Allen are a tier above
Lol ok azcats, based on nothing. About as useful as a fart in the wind. Good talk buddy.


Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked
The position is about throwing the ball ascatz lol how is it hard for you to understand that being accurate at doing that, is important?

Guy just threw for nearly 5,000 yards last season. That's 50 football fields, for the eye test crowd, lmao
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#144 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:33 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Lol ok azcats, based on nothing. About as useful as a fart in the wind. Good talk buddy.


Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked
The position is about throwing the ball ascatz lol how is it hard for you to understand that being accurate at doing that, is important?

Guy just threw for nearly 5,000 yards last season. That's 50 football fields, for the eye test crowd, lmao


CPOE is a better stat than pure percentage. QB percentage is like saying an NBA guard is a good defender because he gets a lot of steals.

Burrow ranks highly in that stat but Hurts is #1.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#145 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:07 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked
The position is about throwing the ball ascatz lol how is it hard for you to understand that being accurate at doing that, is important?

Guy just threw for nearly 5,000 yards last season. That's 50 football fields, for the eye test crowd, lmao


CPOE is a better stat than pure percentage. QB percentage is like saying an NBA guard is a good defender because he gets a lot of steals.

Burrow ranks highly in that stat but Hurts is #1.

Never heard of this stat but if Hurts is #1 I approve of it.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#146 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:26 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked
The position is about throwing the ball ascatz lol how is it hard for you to understand that being accurate at doing that, is important?

Guy just threw for nearly 5,000 yards last season. That's 50 football fields, for the eye test crowd, lmao


CPOE is a better stat than pure percentage. QB percentage is like saying an NBA guard is a good defender because he gets a lot of steals.

Burrow ranks highly in that stat but Hurts is #1.

You just said you're not an advanced stats guy and then pull out Completion Percentage Over Expected lmaooooo

So by this stat you found on google, Burrow has a 6.8% CPOE and the guy you think without the shadow of a doubt based on your untrained eye, Allen, has a 0.8% CPOE...

Alright, where's the camera? I'm for sure getting pranked lol
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#147 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:43 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason

Yet Burrow is the only other QB besides Brady to beat Mahomes in Kansas City and go to a Super Bowl. I disagree with you and Jack on this one.


Burrow's numbers are inflated because he has the best weapons in the league and a historical bad defense.

Your off your meds again. :crazy: :noway:
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#148 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:58 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:The position is about throwing the ball ascatz lol how is it hard for you to understand that being accurate at doing that, is important?

Guy just threw for nearly 5,000 yards last season. That's 50 football fields, for the eye test crowd, lmao


CPOE is a better stat than pure percentage. QB percentage is like saying an NBA guard is a good defender because he gets a lot of steals.

Burrow ranks highly in that stat but Hurts is #1.

You just said you're not an advanced stats guy and then pull out Completion Percentage Over Expected lmaooooo

So by this stat you found on google, Burrow has a 6.8% CPOE and the guy you think without the shadow of a doubt based on your untrained eye, Allen, has a 0.8% CPOE...

Alright, where's the camera? I'm for sure getting pranked lol


It’s one of the handful of advanced stats I know….and my whole point is that completion % doesn’t mean anything in 2025.

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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#149 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:59 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Yet Burrow is the only other QB besides Brady to beat Mahomes in Kansas City and go to a Super Bowl. I disagree with you and Jack on this one.


Burrow's numbers are inflated because he has the best weapons in the league and a historical bad defense.

Your off your meds again. :crazy: :noway:


Yes because I think he’s third at best. Stop with the hyperbole and gas lighting please
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#150 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:05 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
CPOE is a better stat than pure percentage. QB percentage is like saying an NBA guard is a good defender because he gets a lot of steals.

Burrow ranks highly in that stat but Hurts is #1.

You just said you're not an advanced stats guy and then pull out Completion Percentage Over Expected lmaooooo

So by this stat you found on google, Burrow has a 6.8% CPOE and the guy you think without the shadow of a doubt based on your untrained eye, Allen, has a 0.8% CPOE...

Alright, where's the camera? I'm for sure getting pranked lol


It’s one of the handful of advanced stats I know….and my whole point is that completion % doesn’t mean anything in 2025.

Looking forward to the season starting
You probably don't think ERA matters for pitchers either hahaha
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#151 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:05 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Burrow's numbers are inflated because he has the best weapons in the league and a historical bad defense.

Your off your meds again. :crazy: :noway:


Yes because I think he’s third at best. Stop with the hyperbole and gas lighting please

You knock it off. Just because I agree with jijitsu doesn't mean I'm trying to gaslight anything. I think he is spot on. Geez.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#152 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:22 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Your off your meds again. :crazy: :noway:


Yes because I think he’s third at best. Stop with the hyperbole and gas lighting please

You knock it off. Just because I agree with jijitsu doesn't mean I'm trying to gaslight anything. I think he is spot on. Geez.


He is quoting antiquated stats and ignoring context why burrow performed the way he did last season
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#153 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:24 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Yes because I think he’s third at best. Stop with the hyperbole and gas lighting please

You knock it off. Just because I agree with jijitsu doesn't mean I'm trying to gaslight anything. I think he is spot on. Geez.


He is quoting antiquated stats and ignoring context why burrow performed the way he did last season
Like i told Micah, it's how Zac Taylor coaches lol he's gonna throw it 60% of the time, he's not the brightest guy, when it comes to coaching.

There will be clear run it situations or even kick/punt it situations and Zac Taylor will dial up a pass play lol

He did it in 2019 with Andy Dalton.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#154 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Aug 18, 2025 11:17 am

I've had Mahomes #1 and Burrow #2 on my top 10 list the past 3 years. I'm sure I am in the minority on this one.
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Post#155 » by hermes » Tue Sep 9, 2025 3:36 am

is it too early to say 4th quarter mccarthy is a top 10 qb?
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Post#156 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Sep 9, 2025 4:02 am

My list is looking pretty good except Jared Goff let me down.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#157 » by ball_takes23 » Yesterday 2:48 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Because Lamar starts throwing picks and fumbling the ball as soon as the playoffs start lol

He had 4 TD passes, 1 INT, passer rating 122.5 which was behind only Baker Mayfield.

Mahomes had 2 INTs, passer rating 101.4
Zoom out, my friend.

Here, I'll do the legwork for ya.

2018 playoffs: 2 TD 1 INT 48% completion, 3 fumbles.

2019 playoffs: 1 TD 2 INT 52% completion, 1 fumble

2020 playoffs: 0 TD 2 INT 64% completion, 1 fumble

2022 playoffs: injured

2023 playoffs: 3 TD 1 INT 61% completion, 1 fumble

2024 playoffs: 4 TD 1 INT 73% completion, 1 fumble

For his career, Lamar has 13 TD (10 pass 3 rush) 14 TO (7 INT 7 fumbles) on 59% completion percentage, dude is turds in the playoffs.


For the first 5-6 years in the league Lamar was basically a RB disguised as a QB which made him extremely easy to gameplan for in the playoffs because he was extremely one dimensional and relied mostly on his physical attributes, kind of like the football version of Westbrook. In the past year or so his game has evolved to the point where he is now a top 5 passer in the league, on top of remaining the greatest running threat in the history of the league. If we are only judging players on how good they are today then we have to give him credit for his evolution as a quarterback.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#158 » by Micah Prescott » Yesterday 2:58 pm

ball_takes23 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:He had 4 TD passes, 1 INT, passer rating 122.5 which was behind only Baker Mayfield.

Mahomes had 2 INTs, passer rating 101.4
Zoom out, my friend.

Here, I'll do the legwork for ya.

2018 playoffs: 2 TD 1 INT 48% completion, 3 fumbles.

2019 playoffs: 1 TD 2 INT 52% completion, 1 fumble

2020 playoffs: 0 TD 2 INT 64% completion, 1 fumble

2022 playoffs: injured

2023 playoffs: 3 TD 1 INT 61% completion, 1 fumble

2024 playoffs: 4 TD 1 INT 73% completion, 1 fumble

For his career, Lamar has 13 TD (10 pass 3 rush) 14 TO (7 INT 7 fumbles) on 59% completion percentage, dude is turds in the playoffs.


For the first 5-6 years in the league Lamar was basically a RB disguised as a QB which made him extremely easy to gameplan for in the playoffs because he was extremely one dimensional and relied mostly on his physical attributes, kind of like the football version of Westbrook. In the past year or so his game has evolved to the point where he is now a top 5 passer in the league, on top of remaining the greatest running threat in the history of the league. If we are only judging players on how good they are today then we have to give him credit for his evolution as a quarterback.


Lamar is the best QB in the NFL right now, no one can convince me otherwise.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#159 » by JujitsuFlip » Yesterday 4:12 pm

ball_takes23 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:He had 4 TD passes, 1 INT, passer rating 122.5 which was behind only Baker Mayfield.

Mahomes had 2 INTs, passer rating 101.4
Zoom out, my friend.

Here, I'll do the legwork for ya.

2018 playoffs: 2 TD 1 INT 48% completion, 3 fumbles.

2019 playoffs: 1 TD 2 INT 52% completion, 1 fumble

2020 playoffs: 0 TD 2 INT 64% completion, 1 fumble

2022 playoffs: injured

2023 playoffs: 3 TD 1 INT 61% completion, 1 fumble

2024 playoffs: 4 TD 1 INT 73% completion, 1 fumble

For his career, Lamar has 13 TD (10 pass 3 rush) 14 TO (7 INT 7 fumbles) on 59% completion percentage, dude is turds in the playoffs.


For the first 5-6 years in the league Lamar was basically a RB disguised as a QB which made him extremely easy to gameplan for in the playoffs because he was extremely one dimensional and relied mostly on his physical attributes, kind of like the football version of Westbrook. In the past year or so his game has evolved to the point where he is now a top 5 passer in the league, on top of remaining the greatest running threat in the history of the league. If we are only judging players on how good they are today then we have to give him credit for his evolution as a quarterback.
You do realize Lamar has only played 7 NFL seasons, right?
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#160 » by azcatz11 » Yesterday 4:17 pm

Mariner wrote:McCarthy hasn’t played and is already ahead of Daniel Jones in his prime. lol


Not picking on you because everyone thought this but who would have imagined what's happening for each team right now...funny post lol
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