Warriors Free Agency 2025

[CS707]

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Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

Do you think there is 0 responsibility on the warriors for not making the 1st offer until fairly late in the summer and not budging off of it? It takes two to tango, no?

I would assume that things are more or less according to expectation for the Warriors or they would have pivoted by now.

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Coffee gone.
Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

When did Coffey become such a prize? He got a training camp deal and the Bucks have a full roster. Good chance he'll be available if anyone really wants him.

[Onus]

Coffee gone.
Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

When did Coffey become such a prize? He got a training camp deal and the Bucks have a full roster. Good chance he'll be available if anyone really wants him.

I thought he was supposed to be a 3+D player but apparently he’s just 3 and no d and one of the worst defensive players. He always seemed fine against us but seems like we’re completely overrating him. He’s not even getting a real contract.

[vvoland]

Coffee gone.
Brogdon might be next. He's getting pursued by multiple teams now.

If melton or horford get tired of waiting, jk will not have a single sympathetic voice in the entire organization outside of lacob.

When did Coffey become such a prize? He got a training camp deal and the Bucks have a full roster. Good chance he'll be available if anyone really wants him.

I think "real prize" is a bit high but as a cheap vet min, you could do a lot worse. The fact that no one was that interested makes me think there's something more than bad defense but what do I know

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This probably deserves it's own thread but 25-26 schedule is out and we have 16 b2b:

oct - 2
nov - 3
dec - 3
jan - 2
feb - 1
mar - 3
apr - 2

Guaranteed to lead the league, again. And I might be missing some as the League Cup is leaving a few holes in the schedule. Is there any logic to why some teams will play half of the amount of back 2 backs we will?

Let's not get carried away. The Warriors play 15 back to backs. 5 teams play more (16.) Six others play the same (15.) 12 teams play 14 and six teams play 13. The league average is 14.4.

[EvanZ]

It's a bid odd that Melton is so patient coming to the Warriors on a vet min. I would think there would be at least one team in the league tempting him with a bigger contract than that. It wouldn't take much at all. Either the rest of the league thinks Melton is completely cooked, or Melton really really loved playing with Steph.

[vvoland]

This probably deserves it's own thread but 25-26 schedule is out and we have 16 b2b:

oct - 2 (23/24 & 27/28) - only 1 road game, though
nov - 3 (4/5 & 11/12 & 18/19) - 5 of 6 of those games on the road
dec - 3 (6/7 & 28/29) - 4 out of 4 road games
jan - 2 (2/3 & 19/20) - 0 out of 4 road games
feb - 1 (24/25) 2 road games
mar - 3 - (9/10 & 15/16 & 20/21) - 5 out of 6 road games with the lone home game coming on the 2 night of the b2b (essentially a travel game)
apr - 2 - (1/2 & 9/10) - 2 out of 4 road games

Guaranteed to lead the league, again. And I might be missing some as the League Cup is leaving a few holes in the schedule. Is there any logic to why some teams will play half of the amount of back 2 backs we will?

Let's not get carried away. The Warriors play 15 back to backs. 5 teams play more (16.) Six others play the same (15.) 12 teams play 14 and six teams play 13. The league average is 14.4.

I miscounted the Dec number, my bad. Although, I do believe there is another b2b possible due to the nba cup. I must have gotten my outrage mixed up. I believe we lead the league in road b2b games, on a regular basis, not overall b2b's, which are a far closer grouping. Thanks for keeping me honest.

This year, out of our 30 b2b games, we have 19 on the road. IF we're too dumb to extend the season by 2 weeks to avoid B2Bs altogether, why aren't they exclusively (almost) home affairs?

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[vvoland]

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This really couldn't have worked out better for the dubs. Let's see if they f'k it up

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This really couldn't have worked out better for the dubs. Let's see if they f'k it up

There still is the issue of Kuminga which means you can't sign GP2 until that is figured out, if Kuminga takes the QO you then need to overpay GP2 to have a tradable and sizable contract (he'd has the understanding of waiving his no-trade clause for the extra money).

[Old_Blue]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

[statsman]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

I'm sure the Warriors are worried about any possible surprise RFA offer. My guess is they may be thinking (or at least Lacob is thinking) that they can bluff another team into a S&T. Who the hell knows anymore what the Warriors are doing and for what reasons.

I'm just waiting for one or more of the several FAs tied to the Warriors to give up and move on. Kuminga's agent is hoping for that, because he doesn't have much else.

[EvanZ]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

Why would they be waiting if they wanted to do this?

[Old_Blue]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

I'm sure the Warriors are worried about any possible surprise RFA offer. My guess is they may be thinking (or at least Lacob is thinking) that they can bluff another team into a S&T. Who the hell knows anymore what the Warriors are doing and for what reasons.

We actually do know what they're doing and why they're doing it. The Dubs sniff the opportunity to dip below the 1st salary apron. That possibility appears to be dictating everything right now. After years of spending like a drunken sailor (and selling a small percentage of the team to help pay the cost), Lacob has found religion and is now a fiscal conservative. I guess he got tired of stunts like spending $85 million for one year of Kelly Oubre.

[statsman]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

Speaking of, August 29th is the last day a player can be stretch-waived for this season. A player waived after that date counts fully for this season, unless they have a non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed contract.

[vvoland]

Aren't the Wizards still a threat to nab Kuminga? Couldn't they waive and stretch Middleton and then offer Kuminga $20+ per year?

I'm sure the Warriors are worried about any possible surprise RFA offer. My guess is they may be thinking (or at least Lacob is thinking) that they can bluff another team into a S&T. Who the hell knows anymore what the Warriors are doing and for what reasons.

We actually do know what they're doing and why they're doing it. The Dubs sniff the opportunity to dip below the 1st salary apron. That possibility appears to be dictating everything right now. After years of spending like a drunken sailor (and selling a small percentage of the team to help pay the cost), Lacob has found religion and is now a fiscal conservative. I guess he got tired of stunts like spending $85 million for one year of Kelly Oubre.

I don't think there's any chance they get/stay under the 1st apron.

[xdrta+]

I'm sure the Warriors are worried about any possible surprise RFA offer. My guess is they may be thinking (or at least Lacob is thinking) that they can bluff another team into a S&T. Who the hell knows anymore what the Warriors are doing and for what reasons.

We actually do know what they're doing and why they're doing it. The Dubs sniff the opportunity to dip below the 1st salary apron. That possibility appears to be dictating everything right now. After years of spending like a drunken sailor (and selling a small percentage of the team to help pay the cost), Lacob has found religion and is now a fiscal conservative. I guess he got tired of stunts like spending $85 million for one year of Kelly Oubre.

I don't think there's any chance they get/stay under the 1st apron.

Exactly right, and there's no real need to stay under the first apron. There aren't really any restrictions they can't live with. They just need to avoid being hard-capped there.

[vvoland]

We actually do know what they're doing and why they're doing it. The Dubs sniff the opportunity to dip below the 1st salary apron. That possibility appears to be dictating everything right now. After years of spending like a drunken sailor (and selling a small percentage of the team to help pay the cost), Lacob has found religion and is now a fiscal conservative. I guess he got tired of stunts like spending $85 million for one year of Kelly Oubre.

I don't think there's any chance they get/stay under the 1st apron.

Exactly right, and there's no real need to stay under the first apron. There aren't really any restrictions they can't live with. They just need to avoid being hard-capped there.

I apologize for asking again, your answer may have been lost to the mess some of these threads have devolved to but how much of a 2nd year would the dubs need to guarantee (even $1 would do it?) for the NTC to not be a factor for JK? I was under the impression it needed to be fully there, not partial, but TK and folks have talked the opposite.

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I don't think there's any chance they get/stay under the 1st apron.

Exactly right, and there's no real need to stay under the first apron. There aren't really any restrictions they can't live with. They just need to avoid being hard-capped there.

I apologize for asking again, your answer may have been lost to the mess some of these threads have devolved to but how much of a 2nd year would the dubs need to guarantee (even $1 would do it?) for the NTC to not be a factor for JK? I was under the impression it needed to be fully there, not partial, but TK and folks have talked the opposite.

The second year could be from non-guaranteed to fully guaranteed or anything in between. The only stipulation is that there is no option year, either way, for there to be no NTC.

[vvoland]

Exactly right, and there's no real need to stay under the first apron. There aren't really any restrictions they can't live with. They just need to avoid being hard-capped there.

I apologize for asking again, your answer may have been lost to the mess some of these threads have devolved to but how much of a 2nd year would the dubs need to guarantee (even $1 would do it?) for the NTC to not be a factor for JK? I was under the impression it needed to be fully there, not partial, but TK and folks have talked the opposite.

The second year could be from non-guaranteed to fully guaranteed or anything in between. The only stipulation is that there is no option year, either way, for there to be no NTC.

And if the dubs want to keep the TO? That's what gives JK the NTC? Kawakami was suggesting giving a partial guarantee on the 2nd year while keeping the TO as it removes JK's right to the NTC. Is that right? Thanks for humoring me.