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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#681 » by xdrta+ » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:53 pm

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I apologize for asking again, your answer may have been lost to the mess some of these threads have devolved to but how much of a 2nd year would the dubs need to guarantee (even $1 would do it?) for the NTC to not be a factor for JK? I was under the impression it needed to be fully there, not partial, but TK and folks have talked the opposite.


The second year could be from non-guaranteed to fully guaranteed or anything in between. The only stipulation is that there is no option year, either way, for there to be no NTC.


And if the dubs want to keep the TO? That's what gives JK the NTC? Kawakami was suggesting giving a partial guarantee on the 2nd year while keeping the TO as it removes JK's right to the NTC. Is that right? Thanks for humoring me.


A partially guaranteed team option probably isn’t a practical solution because the player only gets the guarantee if the option is exercised. The implicit no-trade clause only applies if the second year is actually a player or team option. A deal that features a non-guaranteed/partially guaranteed second year doesn’t include any NTC.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#682 » by vvoland » Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:46 am

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The second year could be from non-guaranteed to fully guaranteed or anything in between. The only stipulation is that there is no option year, either way, for there to be no NTC.


And if the dubs want to keep the TO? That's what gives JK the NTC? Kawakami was suggesting giving a partial guarantee on the 2nd year while keeping the TO as it removes JK's right to the NTC. Is that right? Thanks for humoring me.


A partially guaranteed team option probably isn’t a practical solution because the player only gets the guarantee if the option is exercised.
The implicit no-trade clause only applies if the second year is actually a player or team option. A deal that features a non-guaranteed/partially guaranteed second year doesn’t include any NTC.



There isn't a date/timing thing that can be manipulated to remove the NTC while keeping the TO?
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#683 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:18 am

Miami might have just opened up a spot to make an offer for horford.
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Post#684 » by xdrta+ » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:51 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Miami might have just opened up a spot to make an offer for horford.


They already had an open roster spot before dumping Highsmith. This is about getting under the tax.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#685 » by vvoland » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:33 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Miami might have just opened up a spot to make an offer for horford.


They already had an open roster spot before dumping Highsmith. This is about getting under the tax.


thanks for reiterating this. The board's distaste for JK really has folks grasping at straws
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#686 » by Coxy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:25 pm

This has been the most boring off season in 15+ years. Maybe 20.

At least when we sucked, the hope when we drafted an Ike Diougu, or signed a free agent like Corey Maggette, was at least entertaining.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#687 » by whatisacenter » Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:40 pm

Coxy wrote:This has been the most boring off season in 15+ years. Maybe 20.

At least when we sucked, the hope when we drafted an Ike Diougu, or signed a free agent like Corey Maggette, was at least entertaining.


Agree, even if you factor in the verbal agreements for Al, Melton and GPII, it's still boring.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#688 » by TB » Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:01 pm

Coxy wrote:This has been the most boring off season in 15+ years. Maybe 20.

At least when we sucked, the hope when we drafted an Ike Diougu, or signed a free agent like Corey Maggette, was at least entertaining.


I will take this Kuminga standoff 1 million times over Baron leaving and the Warriors resorting to Corey Regrette :lol:
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#689 » by Coxy » Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:55 am

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Coxy wrote:This has been the most boring off season in 15+ years. Maybe 20.

At least when we sucked, the hope when we drafted an Ike Diougu, or signed a free agent like Corey Maggette, was at least entertaining.


I will take this Kuminga standoff 1 million times over Baron leaving and the Warriors resorting to Corey Regrette :lol:


But, he'll get to the free throw line!!

That was the year we missed out on Elton Brand as well right? Corey was total sloppy seconds.

All 3 of them ended up sucking from then on anyway. Baron was fat and injured, Brand went downhill, and Corey put up the emptiest of stats the world has ever seen.

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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#690 » by AirP. » Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:16 pm

Mentions Horford possibly getting a 2-year option with the 2nd year being a player's option. The rest connected to GS... Melton, GP2, Curry and Brogdon are being considered for vet mins, all the money looks to depend on the Kuminga situation.

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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#691 » by BayAreaDub » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:39 pm

AirP. wrote:Mentions Horford possibly getting a 2-year option with the 2nd year being a player's option. The rest connected to GS... Melton, GP2, Curry and Brogdon are being considered for vet mins, all the money looks to depend on the Kuminga situation.



How many of those latter dudes would they even need? All four is a Kerr wet dream.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#692 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:35 pm

Regarding Kuminga's "no trade clause" playing under the qualifying offer, I assume there isn't in fact a no trade-clause with QO's, but rather teams are just unlikely to trade for a player who's on a QO unless the player verbally agrees that they would like to re-sign with them in the offseason? So it's a de facto NTC rather than an actual, contractual clause.

Would be funny if Kuminga took the QO and the Warriors traded him anyway :lol:
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#693 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:40 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Miami might have just opened up a spot to make an offer for horford.

Horford is a Warrior. They have a gentleman's agreement and neither is going to burn the other, they are pros. They're just waiting for Kuminga to **** or get off the pot.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#694 » by CS707 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:53 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Regarding Kuminga's "no trade clause" playing under the qualifying offer, I assume there isn't in fact a no trade-clause with QO's, but rather teams are just unlikely to trade for a player who's on a QO unless the player verbally agrees that they would like to re-sign with them in the offseason? So it's a de facto NTC rather than an actual, contractual clause.

Would be funny if Kuminga took the QO and the Warriors traded him anyway :lol:


I was under the impression that it was an actual no trade clause.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#695 » by xdrta+ » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:01 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:Regarding Kuminga's "no trade clause" playing under the qualifying offer, I assume there isn't in fact a no trade-clause with QO's, but rather teams are just unlikely to trade for a player who's on a QO unless the player verbally agrees that they would like to re-sign with them in the offseason? So it's a de facto NTC rather than an actual, contractual clause.

Would be funny if Kuminga took the QO and the Warriors traded him anyway :lol:


I was under the impression that it was an actual no trade clause.


Your impression would be correct. The CBA stipulates that a player who re-signs on a one year contract has veto power over a trade. This includes a QO. There's a reason for this. A player traded in this situation loses his Early Bird or full Bird rights, they revert to non-Bird, so to compensate he can veto the trade.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#696 » by AirP. » Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:07 pm

Melton and Payton are expected to sign veteran's minimum deals. I spoke with another team this week that still has an open roster spot and was at least somewhat hopeful that Horford would lose patience with the wait and suddenly invite new offers, but I don't expect that to happen.


Sources say that the Warriors have a strong affinity for Murphy and have made outreach to New Orleans as recently as this summer. Yet sources say that the Pelicans, to be clear, have batted away calls for the 25-year-old, valuing him highly. The two-way forward will be playing on a contract in 2025-26 — at precisely $25 million — as desirable as his talent.


I'm told that the Warriors have called the Lakers on multiple occasions over the past 18 months to see whether there is any trade pathway to pairing James with Stephen Curry, who roughly a year ago at this time was teaming with LeBron for the United States senior men's national team on its run to a gold medal at the Paris Olympics.


There's more in there, but these are the newer items. Jake Fischer is teamed up with Marc Stien on Substack (https://substack.com/@thesteinline), I believe it's $50 a year to have access.

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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#697 » by AirP. » Yesterday 2:17 pm

10 second-year players to keep an eye on in 2025-26
These 10 players entering their second NBA seasons could be ready to take big steps forward in 2025-26.


Quinten Post | C | Golden State Warriors
Draft position: No. 52

2024-25 stats: 8.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.3 apg

The 7-foot native of the Netherlands was a late-season find for the Warriors, making all but 10 of his 42 appearances after January and giving them a true stretch five by hitting 40.8% from the arc. His minutes grew scarcer in the playoffs as coach Steve Kerr went with veterans. Post did not participate in NBA Summer League and is still recovering from a sore ankle suffered in the spring. He projects as a possible starter in 2025-26, but he needs some defensive improvement and strength.

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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#698 » by statsman » Yesterday 2:44 pm

Depending on the roster situation by the start of training camp, I wonder if TJD is a candidate to be waived. I guess it will depend on how many open roster spots they'll have below 14 and how many vet minimum the Warriors would like to sign.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#699 » by AirP. » Yesterday 4:53 pm

statsman wrote:Depending on the roster situation by the start of training camp, I wonder if TJD is a candidate to be waived. I guess it will depend on how many open roster spots they'll have below 14 and how many vet minimum the Warriors would like to sign.


Would you feel comfortable only having 3 bigs going through the regular season with 2 of them 35+ in age? I wouldn't.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#700 » by ChuckDurn » Yesterday 7:20 pm

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statsman wrote:Depending on the roster situation by the start of training camp, I wonder if TJD is a candidate to be waived. I guess it will depend on how many open roster spots they'll have below 14 and how many vet minimum the Warriors would like to sign.


Would you feel comfortable only having 3 bigs going through the regular season with 2 of them 35+ in age? I wouldn't.

True, and in addition to this, I’m pretty sure his (TJD) salary is fully guaranteed, so it wouldn’t help anything financially. It would just be dead money against the cap.
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