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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2241 » by donkeylips » Fri Aug 15, 2025 4:28 pm

Didn’t warriors give a camp invite or g league contract to Klay and boogie’s brothers?
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Post#2242 » by vvoland » Fri Aug 15, 2025 4:42 pm

donkeylips wrote:Didn’t warriors give a camp invite or g league contract to Klay and boogie’s brothers?


Plenty of people got hella paid because they were related/adjacent to players. Some of whom (the players, that is) were not even particularly good. Via g-league contracts, 2 ways, jobs with the organization, and actual, guaranteed deals/rosters spots.
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Post#2243 » by AirP. » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:54 pm

Miami once again sent out a trade asset to dump a salary. They had been in the tax the last 2 seasons, so getting under the tax this year allows them to dodge the repeater tax, they'll have to stay out of the tax again next year too.

If you want a cheap 2-4 defender for about 5.6 mil, Highsmith can be that guy. He use to play outside his skill set in hopes of becoming something more but in recent years he's settled into the role he can fill in the NBA and just settled into a 3&D player.

The Miami Heat have traded Haywood Highsmith and a 2032 second-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for a protected 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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Post#2244 » by vvoland » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:16 pm

AirP. wrote:Miami once again sent out a trade asset to dump a salary. They had been in the tax the last 2 seasons, so getting under the tax this year allows them to dodge the repeater tax, they'll have to stay out of the tax again next year too.

If you want a cheap 2-4 defender for about 5.6 mil, Highsmith can be that guy. He use to play outside his skill set in hopes of becoming something more but in recent years he's settled into the role he can fill in the NBA and just settled into a 3&D player.

The Miami Heat have traded Haywood Highsmith and a 2032 second-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for a protected 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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That's a cheap price (contract and draft capital) for HH. I like him and would probably move MM to get HH and a draft asset back while saving 8M
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2245 » by Onus » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:16 pm

AirP. wrote:Miami once again sent out a trade asset to dump a salary. They had been in the tax the last 2 seasons, so getting under the tax this year allows them to dodge the repeater tax, they'll have to stay out of the tax again next year too.

If you want a cheap 2-4 defender for about 5.6 mil, Highsmith can be that guy. He use to play outside his skill set in hopes of becoming something more but in recent years he's settled into the role he can fill in the NBA and just settled into a 3&D player.

The Miami Heat have traded Haywood Highsmith and a 2032 second-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for a protected 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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Damn wanted highsmith if we moved jk to sac and sac was trading derozan to Miami.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2246 » by AirP. » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:23 pm

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AirP. wrote:Miami once again sent out a trade asset to dump a salary. They had been in the tax the last 2 seasons, so getting under the tax this year allows them to dodge the repeater tax, they'll have to stay out of the tax again next year too.

If you want a cheap 2-4 defender for about 5.6 mil, Highsmith can be that guy. He use to play outside his skill set in hopes of becoming something more but in recent years he's settled into the role he can fill in the NBA and just settled into a 3&D player.

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Damn wanted highsmith if we moved jk to sac and sac was trading derozan to Miami.


Is the Kuminga to Sac more interesting if it's something like D.Carter, 1st, and Saric + 2nd -> Brooklyn, Highsmith -> GS for Kuminga? You do your vet signings and you overpay GP2 to use his contract for trade filler this season, it won't be as much as Kuminga's would have been, it would could be in the 12-16 million range.

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Post#2247 » by Onus » Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:36 am

AirP. wrote:
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AirP. wrote:Miami once again sent out a trade asset to dump a salary. They had been in the tax the last 2 seasons, so getting under the tax this year allows them to dodge the repeater tax, they'll have to stay out of the tax again next year too.

If you want a cheap 2-4 defender for about 5.6 mil, Highsmith can be that guy. He use to play outside his skill set in hopes of becoming something more but in recent years he's settled into the role he can fill in the NBA and just settled into a 3&D player.


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Damn wanted highsmith if we moved jk to sac and sac was trading derozan to Miami.


Is the Kuminga to Sac more interesting if it's something like D.Carter, 1st, and Saric + 2nd -> Brooklyn, Highsmith -> GS for Kuminga? You do your vet signings and you overpay GP2 to use his contract for trade filler this season, it won't be as much as Kuminga's would have been, it would could be in the 12-16 million range.

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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2248 » by DAWill1128 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:47 am

I was thinking Kuminga for Jovic+Highsmith. I guess the Heat didn't value Highsmith that much, he is an athletic wing with a 7 foot wingspan who can hit 3's. Highsmith would've been helpful.
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Post#2249 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:58 am

DAWill1128 wrote:I was thinking Kuminga for Jovic+Highsmith. I guess the Heat didn't value Highsmith that much, he is an athletic wing with a 7 foot wingspan who can hit 3's. Highsmith would've been helpful.


Highsmith was the untouchable in the Durant deal. And now gets moved for cap space. Next move is likely to dump wiggins.

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Post#2250 » by vvoland » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:19 am

DAWill1128 wrote:I was thinking Kuminga for Jovic+Highsmith. I guess the Heat didn't value Highsmith that much, he is an athletic wing with a 7 foot wingspan who can hit 3's. Highsmith would've been helpful.


Still can be. I doubt it takes much more than a decent 2nd rounder and matching salary to get him from BKN.
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Post#2251 » by DAWill1128 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:01 am

The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.
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Post#2252 » by statsman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:13 am

DAWill1128 wrote:The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.

Unless the Warriors are also jettisoning Hield or Moody for little to no salary in return, the Warriors won't be able to do this.

Adding Wiggins and four vet minimums would take the Warriors a hair over the 2nd apron, meaning they couldn't use the TPMLE to acquire Horford.

So, at least one of those vet minimums would need to be either Toohey or Richard to get under the 2nd apron, but still no Horford.

Once the Warriors use the TPMLE on Horford (maybe that should be "if"), they will be hard capped at the 2nd apron.
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Post#2253 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:42 pm

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DAWill1128 wrote:The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.

Unless the Warriors are also jettisoning Hield or Moody for little to no salary in return, the Warriors won't be able to do this.

Adding Wiggins and four vet minimums would take the Warriors a hair over the 2nd apron, meaning they couldn't use the TPMLE to acquire Horford.

So, at least one of those vet minimums would need to be either Toohey or Richard to get under the 2nd apron, but still no Horford.

Once the Warriors use the TPMLE on Horford (maybe that should be "if"), they will be hard capped at the 2nd apron.


Why would they need to jettison moody or heild? If the Heat are good with a 3/80-85 type deal, it's works out as a straight contract swap at the trade deadline in january. There's no longer a byc because it's no longer a sign and trade. Or is they're something else? I think that's what dwill is proposing.
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Post#2254 » by statsman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:58 pm

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statsman wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.

Unless the Warriors are also jettisoning Hield or Moody for little to no salary in return, the Warriors won't be able to do this.

Adding Wiggins and four vet minimums would take the Warriors a hair over the 2nd apron, meaning they couldn't use the TPMLE to acquire Horford.

So, at least one of those vet minimums would need to be either Toohey or Richard to get under the 2nd apron, but still no Horford.

Once the Warriors use the TPMLE on Horford (maybe that should be "if"), they will be hard capped at the 2nd apron.


Why would they need to jettison moody or heild? If the Heat are good with a 3/80-85 type deal, it's works out as a straight contract swap at the trade deadline in january. There's no longer a byc because it's no longer a sign and trade. Or is they're something else? I think that's what dwill is proposing.

Because Wiggins' salary and four vet minimums, to get to 14 players, takes them over the 2nd apron. So, unless you want the Warriors to take on the penalties for doing so, along with being unable to sign Horford or anyone else to part/all of the TPMLE, they need to make salary room.

Moving TJD/Gui/Post doesn't help them (in fact, it makes it slightly worse). Tossing Podz aside is not enough. They would have to lose Hield or Moody to make enough room to (a) sign Horford to the entire TPMLE, and (b) stay below the 2nd apron hard cap because of (a).

Viewed this offseason, once Horford is signed with the TPMLE, the Warriors are hard capped at the 2nd apron. Period. No exceptions. They cannot undo that. Heck, they would have trouble staying under the 2nd apron with Kuminga at 3/80 (way overpaid), Horford at the TPMLE, and vet minimums.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2255 » by xdrta+ » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:45 pm

The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to a two-year, $4.5 million offer sheet with Houston Rockets two-way restricted free agent N'Faly Dante...
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As far as I know this is the first signed offer sheet for an RFA this summer. By all accounts it's also the first time a two-way player has signed an offer sheet with another team since two-way contracts began. Sneaky offer, since the Rockets don't have room under their hard-cap to match.

Taran Armstrong is an RFA with a QO from the Warriors, but no offer sheets in sight for him.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2256 » by vvoland » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:36 pm

xdrta+ wrote:The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to a two-year, $4.5 million offer sheet with Houston Rockets two-way restricted free agent N'Faly Dante...
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As far as I know this is the first signed offer sheet for an RFA this summer. By all accounts it's also the first time a two-way player has signed an offer sheet with another team since two-way contracts began. Sneaky offer, since the Rockets don't have room under their hard-cap to match.

Taran Armstrong is an RFA with a QO from the Warriors, but no offer sheets in sight for him.


Is this the first offer any RFA has received from a different team that hold his rights for a few years, no?
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2257 » by DAWill1128 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:51 pm

statsman wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.

Unless the Warriors are also jettisoning Hield or Moody for little to no salary in return, the Warriors won't be able to do this.

Adding Wiggins and four vet minimums would take the Warriors a hair over the 2nd apron, meaning they couldn't use the TPMLE to acquire Horford.

So, at least one of those vet minimums would need to be either Toohey or Richard to get under the 2nd apron, but still no Horford.

Once the Warriors use the TPMLE on Horford (maybe that should be "if"), they will be hard capped at the 2nd apron.


I am talking about at the trade deadline, not this offseason.
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Post#2258 » by statsman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:55 pm

DAWill1128 wrote:
statsman wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:The move that would really be great is moving Kuminga for Wiggins when it becomes available. Imagine Wiggins playing on ball defense with Horford, Draymond, and Jimmy behind him. The defense we could put together would be suffocating. Even moving Horford out for Hield in stretches would be really difficult to guard.

The Warriors should seek the Heat in a handshake agreement. Get all parties on board.

Unless the Warriors are also jettisoning Hield or Moody for little to no salary in return, the Warriors won't be able to do this.

Adding Wiggins and four vet minimums would take the Warriors a hair over the 2nd apron, meaning they couldn't use the TPMLE to acquire Horford.

So, at least one of those vet minimums would need to be either Toohey or Richard to get under the 2nd apron, but still no Horford.

Once the Warriors use the TPMLE on Horford (maybe that should be "if"), they will be hard capped at the 2nd apron.

I am talking about at the trade deadline, not this offseason.

I am talking about both this offseason *and* the trade deadline. They are intertwined.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2259 » by AirP. » Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:39 pm

Would have been nice to see Rose at 100% with Butler, you just never know what can happen even when you have a young elite talent.
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