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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#121 » by PushDaRock » Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:25 am

not too bad having a shutdown closer 8-)
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#122 » by Mehar » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:15 am

Everyone is pumped by the comeback victory, but tough news for this franchise to see a rising star like Buddy Kennedy being picked up by the Dodgers tonight. The Rich Get Richer, since Buddy would have a been great player in the middle of the lineup for the Jays in 2026, especially if Bichette signs elsewhere in the off-season.

The Dodgers got a great talent, with the best name in MLB. Hopefully the fans at the Rogers Centre can give him a standing ovation and loud chants of "Buddy Buddy" the next time he comes back to the Rogers Centre (now in 2026). Thank you Buddy Kennedy for your impact on this team and fanbase. If the Jays win the World Series, hopefully they can give him a ring also for the contributions he provided.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#123 » by linery88 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:28 am

Will the Jays sign Bo ?
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Post#124 » by C Court » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:33 am

linery88 wrote:Will the Jays sign Bo ?


With the Dodgers claiming Buddy Kennedy off waivers, they kinda have to, right? :wink:
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#125 » by vaff87 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:38 am

C Court wrote:
linery88 wrote:Will the Jays sign Bo ?


With the Dodgers claiming Buddy Kennedy off waivers, they kinda have to, right? :wink:


Dodgers know a talent when they see one.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#126 » by linery88 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:06 am

vaff87 wrote:
C Court wrote:
linery88 wrote:Will the Jays sign Bo ?


With the Dodgers claiming Buddy Kennedy off waivers, they kinda have to, right? :wink:


Dodgers know a talent when they see one.


Hope they do it before the end of the season.
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Post#127 » by hyper316 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:11 am

Feels like a playoff games against Texas, brings back vibes
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-61) @ Toronto Blue Jays (71-51) August 15-17 

Post#128 » by Mehar » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:52 pm

vaff87 wrote:
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linery88 wrote:Will the Jays sign Bo ?


With the Dodgers claiming Buddy Kennedy off waivers, they kinda have to, right? :wink:


Dodgers know a talent when they see one.

Absolutely. The Dodgers front office picked up a gem in Buddy Kennedy. Jays fans will look back and be puzzled why we let a promising young star like Buddy go.

He would have been a fan favourite at the Rogers Centre, with his play and having one of the best names in all of MLB. Hopefully Buddy does not come back and haunt us, if we happen to go to the World Series and play the Dodgers.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#129 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:57 pm

Last 7 outings for Hoffman
2-0
3 Saves
0.00 ERA
6.2 innings. 2 hits. 11K's.
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Somewhat remarkable that he went 0.2 innings gave up 5 walks and allowed 0 earned runs.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#130 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:02 pm

I found it odd that the official scorer chose to give the closer (Hoffman) the Win rather than the Save last night. A very unusual call, but permitted. But don't remember ever seeing a closer lose a save that way.

Typically the win would have went to Varland who closed the eighth inning, and the Jays took the lead after that. It was the same way, Hoffman got the "win" against the Dodgers for example.


I found this "MLBs glossary introduces a weird twist: There is also a rarely used clause where an official scorer can deem a relief pitcher's appearance "brief and ineffective." (For example, if a reliever relinquished a one-run lead by allowing three runs, but was still in line for a win after his team scored four runs in the following inning -- that may qualify.) If that's the case, the scorer can award the win to a pitcher who followed that "brief and ineffective" pitcher. Which relief pitcher earns the win specifically is also up to the judgment of the official scorer."
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#131 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:07 pm

Springer's return is huge for our lineup against Lefties, which seemed mid. My only concern is that the lay-off impacted his momentum / swing.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#132 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:25 pm

I assume its Loperfido that gets demoted for Springer today. Makes more sense than Davis Schneider.

With Springer back, only 2 of the following 3 could start vs Righties (Clement, Lukes, Loperfido).
With Springer back, there is still a defined starting role for Davis Schneider vs Lefties.

Personally, I would have considered DFA'ing Myles Straw. He would not have been claimed. After the permitted 7 days, I would then place him back on the major league roster. Unless this is against the rules, but I don't believe it is -- the Jays are not allowed to outright him to the minors, as the Indians did that the one permitted time. But I do believe they can basically sit him for up to 7 days, and then bring him back.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#133 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:27 pm

So when do we get the news that Loperfido is getting sent down?
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#134 » by -MetA4- » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:54 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:So when do we get the news that Loperfido is getting sent down?


Now.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#135 » by JaysRule15 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:15 pm

Loperfido will be back up in two weeks. Just made the most sense that he would be the guy due to having an option. I wouldn't have DFA'd Straw, regardless of if he get claimed or not, he's been pretty steady off the bench and done whatever that's asked of it. Also, with Varsho still coming off injury, it's good to have Straw as a CF backup and good defensive and speed option.

Also, this way Loperfido has a place to play everyday for the new weeks as the minor league season winds down.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#136 » by Mehar » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:42 pm

JaysRule15 wrote:Loperfido will be back up in two weeks. Just made the most sense that he would be the guy due to having an option. I wouldn't have DFA'd Straw, regardless of if he get claimed or not, he's been pretty steady off the bench and done whatever that's asked of it. Also, with Varsho still coming off injury, it's good to have Straw as a CF backup and good defensive and speed option.

Also, this way Loperfido has a place to play everyday for the new weeks as the minor league season winds down.


The guy who would have been DFA if he did not show anything at the plate was Ty France. However, he has shown life at the plate since he got here, so Loperfido was the odd man out until September 1st when rosters expand. The way Straw has performed defensively in CF and LF, along with being an exceptional bunter as well and having good speed on the basepaths- I would have never considered to DFA Straw.

Straw also has club options for 2027 and 2028 which the club might exercise, in case Scott Boras client Varsho has outrageous salary demands and the Jays cannot negotiate a reasonable contract for him. You still then have an excellent outfield defender in Straw to replace Varsho, as a Late Inning Defender and insurance policy.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#138 » by hyper316 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:28 pm

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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#139 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:42 pm

To be clear my DFA consideration of Straw was not a DFA for intent to release. It was just a sitting him down for 7 days, then bringing him back. In that way you sit Straw for about a week, and then only send down Loperfido for a week

That being said Straw has a defined role right now, even as a defensive replacemnt / pinch runer. The only one that didn't have a defined role moving forward (if Lukes/Clement play) was Loperfido, so I agree with the sentiment above that he is a better send down just to keep him playing.

Things could get complicated again if Santander could get ready within about a month (say mid-September). Because once his rehab starts if he is healty in 20 days he has to be called up.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#140 » by JN » Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:58 pm

Does Tommy Nance have any options left? I don't think he does. Which could make things complicated when Bieber starts somewhere between Thursday-Saturday next week. Unless there is an injury of some sorts over the next 5-6 days, and that could very well happen.

Nance would certainly get claimed if he has to be put on waivers. And given that he has arb rights next year at a cheap price, and he has pitched well, I'm not sure the Jays will want to just lose him without being able to at least assess his arb situation in the off-season.

I think the only pitchers with options are Fluharty, Fisher, Varland, Rodriguez. It would seem like Fluharty is the odd man out. Like Loperfido its a bit of an unfair fate for Fluharty, but it also means the team's roster is deep.

Bassitt taking a 15 day IL break for a minor ailment may make some of these decision easier,

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