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Post#921 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:14 am

I think the Heat actually are going into the Heat in a good state. They've cleared the board so they can see what they got with the young guys. They gave Herro a running mate (Powell) so we can see if he can be worth a big extension. Bam has the proper team around him to let him bounce back. We have time to see if Powell is worth an extension and can move him if he isnt. And if it all falls apart we own our pick in a super deep and and talent draft. Superstar talent though a lot of the lottery. They have the chance for good progression in a lot of ways this year.
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Post#922 » by Daffy » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:16 am

Wow this is sad. I haven't posted here for about 2 weeks and the conversation is literally the same. Bam and Herro. Discourse here is dying.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#923 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:17 am

lastb1ckman wrote:I think the Heat actually are going into the Heat in a good state. They've cleared the board so they can see what they got with the young guys. They gave Herro a running mate (Powell) so we can see if he can be worth a big extension. Bam has the proper team around him to let him bounce back. We have time to see if Powell is worth an extension and can move him if he isnt. And if it all falls apart we own our pick in a super deep and and talent draft. Superstar talent though a lot of the lottery. They have the chance for good progression in a lot of ways this year.


Plus, there seems to be more media than I thought that are optimistic in how good the Heat are this coming season. Locked on NBA folks straight up said theyre probably gonna be good!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#924 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:50 am

Daffy wrote:Wow this is sad. I haven't posted here for about 2 weeks and the conversation is literally the same. Bam and Herro. Discourse here is dying.


There’s nothing to talk about brother it’s the dead period
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Post#925 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:54 am

Vertical Limit wrote:Honestly the ideal player id like next to bam is someone that likes to play with contact and can absorb contact.

Ware has some mental lapses defensively and offensively.. and he is easily movable in the paint.. it doesnt take much to gain position on him. Any big man with strength, Randle, Bam, KAT, Wemby, Mobley, Turner, hell even Chet, can move Ware, push him around and get their ****.

Spo and the training staff has been trying to work on his strength… but im not sure Ware is ever going to be that kind of player..

Id kill to have someone like Myles Turner to play next to Bam..


Come on vertical, you can’t talk about contact and physicality and then come to the conclusion of Myles Turner being that guy. You’re talking about a starting center that averaged the 11th most rebounds in the nba finals among all players. Dudes career high for rebounds is 7.5, he’s charmin soft. Bam beat him up in practice and got kicked off team USA.

A good fit I agree, but not for the reason you gave
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Post#926 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:20 am

Does the highsmith deal open up some money for horford? Now that would be an interesting name. Great mentor for ware, can still play, and it would be a return to Florida for him.
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Post#927 » by Hallstar » Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:54 am

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Post#928 » by contract » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:06 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Kai Jones‘ workout with the Heat on Monday wasn’t just a one-day affair. According to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald, the free agent center is actually spending four days working out at Kaseya Center this week as the club considers whether to sign him. No decisions have been made yet, but a source tells Jackson that the Heat have “long shown an appreciation” for the former first-rounder’s skill set.

24 year old 6'11 former 1st rd pick who's matured and ready for a second chance. He's a perfect cheap upside play for our backup Center spot.

Has this kid ever done anything of note at any level?
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Post#929 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:14 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Kai Jones‘ workout with the Heat on Monday wasn’t just a one-day affair. According to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald, the free agent center is actually spending four days working out at Kaseya Center this week as the club considers whether to sign him. No decisions have been made yet, but a source tells Jackson that the Heat have “long shown an appreciation” for the former first-rounder’s skill set.

24 year old 6'11 former 1st rd pick who's matured and ready for a second chance. He's a perfect cheap upside play for our backup Center spot.

Has this kid ever done anything of note at any level?

No lol he was drafted based on work ethic and athleticism.. he averaged like 9 ppg and 5 rebounds his sophmore year before he got drafted in the first round

Has always been a workout warrior because of his athlecism

In the nba he is a triple single guy..

Kai Jones brings nothing of value, may end upgetting a minimum 1 year contract anyways because we got a roster to fill out..
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#930 » by contract » Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:19 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Kai Jones‘ workout with the Heat on Monday wasn’t just a one-day affair. According to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald, the free agent center is actually spending four days working out at Kaseya Center this week as the club considers whether to sign him. No decisions have been made yet, but a source tells Jackson that the Heat have “long shown an appreciation” for the former first-rounder’s skill set.

24 year old 6'11 former 1st rd pick who's matured and ready for a second chance. He's a perfect cheap upside play for our backup Center spot.

Has this kid ever done anything of note at any level?

No lol he was drafted based on work ethic and athleticism.. he averaged like 9 ppg and 5 rebounds his sophmore year before he got drafted in the first round

Has always been a workout warrior because of his athlecism

In the nba he is a triple single guy..

Kai Jones brings nothing of value, may end upgetting a minimum 1 year contract anyways because we got a roster to fill out..

Yeah, it looks like even in high school he was nothing special. I suppose he can make a career off his "potential". There's worse ways to make a living.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#931 » by dolphinatik » Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:03 pm

I've never seen a franchise that has to include picks to trade players more than the Miami Heat. I have never liked how we throw away so much draft capital.
1. Herro 2. Bol Bol 3. Seko 4. Bruno
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
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Post#932 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:19 pm

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Post#933 » by wade44 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:29 pm

dolphinatik wrote:I've never seen a franchise that has to include picks to trade players more than the Miami Heat. I have never liked how we throw away so much draft capital.

Incredibly frustrating especially with how draft capital in todays league is utilized to trade for impact players
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#934 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:01 pm

dolphinatik wrote:I've never seen a franchise that has to include picks to trade players more than the Miami Heat. I have never liked how we throw away so much draft capital.


Horrible asset management
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#935 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:08 pm

Heat trade Injured HH and a 2nd rd pick 7 years from now for Precious Achuiwa and GP2. If that happens does that look like a good trade?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#936 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:19 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat trade Injured HH and a 2nd rd pick 7 years from now for Precious Achuiwa and GP2. If that happens does that look like a good trade?


Not really, Haywood is better than both. We should’ve been receiving something for Haywood in a deal with a contender or something. Then maybe you can flip whatever that is plus a 2nd with Terry to get someone that is a legitimate rotation player like Vucevic or someone while also shedding a little salary. Or just held on to it
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#937 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:31 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat trade Injured HH and a 2nd rd pick 7 years from now for Precious Achuiwa and GP2. If that happens does that look like a good trade?


Not really, Haywood is better than both. We should’ve been receiving something for Haywood in a deal with a contender or something. Then maybe you can flip whatever that is plus a 2nd with Terry to get someone that is a legitimate rotation player like Vucevic or someone while also shedding a little salary. Or just held on to it

Haywood is someone we got off the scrap heap and worked within our system. I guaranteed the league places little to no value on HH. Most likely viewed him as another scrap heap jag. Watch him get passed around the league now and end up on the back end of rosters until out of the league. Same path as Rodney McGruder.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#938 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:45 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat trade Injured HH and a 2nd rd pick 7 years from now for Precious Achuiwa and GP2. If that happens does that look like a good trade?


Not really, Haywood is better than both. We should’ve been receiving something for Haywood in a deal with a contender or something. Then maybe you can flip whatever that is plus a 2nd with Terry to get someone that is a legitimate rotation player like Vucevic or someone while also shedding a little salary. Or just held on to it

Haywood is someone we got off the scrap heap and worked within our system. I guaranteed the league places little to no value on HH. Most likely viewed him as another scrap heap jag. Watch him get passed around the league now and end up on the back end of rosters until out of the league. Same path as Rodney McGruder.


That might happen, it might not. It doesn’t change the fact that we signed him and then used an asset to get off his $5M expiring deal. Thats just not good asset management whether you like the guy or not and we continue to have to do this.

We just saw the Suns prefer 5 2nds or whatever to an additional 1st in the KD trade because of the flexibility or whatever they said, they may not be major assets but they do have some value and there have been several gems drafted in the 2nd round and drafting is this organization’s strong point imo. Instead of using them to bolster the roster or draft guys we like we’re using them to shed salary that we gave out to guys, we didn’t have the sign Haywood or Dedmon. The Dipo situation was unfortunate.

This one move in a vacuum isn’t a big deal, I agree with that, but when you continuously make questionable moves like this they start to add up and then we’re left wondering why we don’t have any assets.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#939 » by wade44 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:47 pm

While Highsmith wasn’t a difference maker, there were times you can plug him in for certain lineups to cover up the warts of the zero defense lineups. Will we be better off without him, time will tell. However you can’t ignore the premise that we’re annually giving away future draft capital to clear up cap room. Andy is top notch in some areas in the numbers game, but overlooks a lot in others
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#940 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:51 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Heat trade Injured HH and a 2nd rd pick 7 years from now for Precious Achuiwa and GP2. If that happens does that look like a good trade?

Yea. Haywood is such a scrub with this group that we’re trying to lionize. If this was the Heatles era you could justify 25 mins a night because you never depend on him to score, same with other so called contenders around the league. But with this group you cant give up those kind of minutes to such a limited offensive player. Even Mitchell has shown to be more of an impact guy in that regard.

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