One Last Shot wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:
It's not that it wasn't my thought, its that its completely irrelevant to what we were discussing after you replied so sarcastically to begin with. Then also after you did a big goal post move to try and defend acting in that way and even now, you are still just giving me some convoluted nonsense endng with lol alright man. Why? Because you're always in this spin mode on here and can't simply admit you were wrong without something else added on which has nothing to do with anything. Just give Grant credit and move on.
Why was what i wrote nonsense? You say i was sacrcastic….well how pleasant is your post? Because i always spin stuff? And i added stuff that was irrelevant!? And pretty sure i added some relevant information within my reply but because you dont agree then lesson learned lol. Have a nice life pal and enjoy your weekend.
How about I share what Pippen said himself, you think that's a relevant information from his firsthand experience? He said Jordan is a horrible player and horrible to played with and MJ's all about one on one and keep shooting bad shots. There's also lot of reports of MJ bullied his teammates like telling not to pass the ball to Cartwright until Bill confronts MJ and told him he wil break his legs and never play basketball again if he ever heard him saying that again then as expected from a bully, Jordan stop bothering him after he stand up against the GOAT. As the story goes, MJ likes to bully teammates he thinks can be bullied. Once they stand up to him he backs down. He also assaults his teammates physically like what he did to Kerr. In any working environment, that should be a negative don't you think? But hey they won 6 titles despite MJ's horrible attitude that should erase all those things now we got posters here glorifiying him telling everyone that Jordan molds his best teammates to the best version of themselves because he turn their practice into war.
Little or no doubt Jordan was a prick with a giant ego. But he also realised that he needed to learn to play a team game to win, and did so. He is far from my favourite player, but he is the player I regard as the best, and the absolute incontrovertible fact is that teams coalesced around him which won 6 titles. I am fine with an argument that his early career shows that he couldn’t do as much as LeBron playing one man basketball, but it is hardly to his detriment in the team sport of basketball that he and his teams were great playing team basketball. We know Jordan eventually agreed to the triangle offense which took the ball out of his hands to a degree, which gave his team mates a larger role. How do you know LeBron would have let Krause build a team around him which he sometimes did against Jordan’s preferences, or that he would have listened to Phil Jackson and played the triangle offense which Jackson was given the head coaching job to implement, or that the triangle offense would have been suited to LeBron ?. People keep pointing to the 55 win season after Jordan’s first retirement, but those players had grown up playing a scheme not completely reliant on Jordan, also lost in the second round without him and hardly prospered the following season following before his return, but immediately improved on his return which was without Dennis Rodman. They then proceeded to a second threepeat which included the best complete season ever of any team, and if we are comparing regular seasons 71 is rather more than 55.
