OT : Eurobasket 2025

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European champion will be?

Poll runs till Tue Sep 9, 2025 7:35 am

Serbia
45
49%
Germany
11
12%
France
10
11%
Greece
5
5%
Spain
3
3%
Slovenia
2
2%
Türkiye
1
1%
Latvia
4
4%
Lithuania
5
5%
Other
6
7%
 
Total votes: 92

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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#261 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:40 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Who's Slovenia's naturalized player? Is it still Mike Tobey? Or is it Nebo? Haven't watched a single game yet


It was supposed to be Nebo, who is much better than Tobey, but he's still not recovered from a serious injury. Considering how long he's been out, he probably wouldn't be of much help anyway.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#262 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:46 pm

Slovenia has really regressed in their national team. Only worse regressions in recent times are probably Argentina and Russia.

Slovenia's case of regression is even worse than Italy's was some years back, because Italy still had players, they just refused to play defense or share the ball on offense.

Going back to the 2000s, that Slovenia from that era, could probably arguably be a top 2 or even top 1 team on paper at this tournament. If you added Luka to a team like that, it would be the favorite.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#263 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:51 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Who's Slovenia's naturalized player? Is it still Mike Tobey? Or is it Nebo? Haven't watched a single game yet


Omic. Olimpia Milano didn't allow Cancar and Nebo to play.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#264 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:52 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Who's Slovenia's naturalized player? Is it still Mike Tobey? Or is it Nebo? Haven't watched a single game yet


It was supposed to be Nebo, who is much better than Tobey, but he's still not recovered from a serious injury. Considering how long he's been out, he probably wouldn't be of much help anyway.


No, he wanted to play, but in last second Olimpia Milano said no, the same thing happened to Cancar.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#265 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:54 pm

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Yeah, what was that guys name, he should be on one of these youth teams? .

Klavzar? Joksimovic? Vide?


https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/1456594/ziga-samar-emerging-as-the-next-big-guard-from-slovenia/


He's not playing for personal reasons.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#266 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:55 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:Slovenia has really regressed in their national team. Only worse regressions in recent times are probably Argentina and Russia.

Slovenia's case of regression is even worse than Italy's was some years back, because Italy still had players, they just refused to play defense or share the ball on offense.

Going back to the 2000s, that Slovenia from that era, could probably arguably be a top 2 or even top 1 team on paper at this tournament. If you added Luka to a team like that, it would be the favorite.


Yes they regressed, but they would still be much better team with Cancar, Nebo, Samar and Blazic. That's basically 4 starters missing.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#267 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:09 pm

Bob8 wrote:Yes they regressed, but they would still be much better team with Cancar, Nebo, Samar and Blazic. That's basically 4 starters missing.


They wouldn't have needed guys like Tobey, Randolph, Nebo in the 2000s era. Even when they won EuroBasket, they wouldn't have gotten a medal without Randolph.

It's just strange how they went to one good player so fast.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#268 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:20 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:Yes they regressed, but they would still be much better team with Cancar, Nebo, Samar and Blazic. That's basically 4 starters missing.


They wouldn't have needed guys like Tobey, Randolph, Nebo in the 2000s era. Even when they won EuroBasket, they wouldn't have gotten a medal without Randolph.

It's just strange how they went to one good player so fast.


They didn't produce good C for a long time, that's why those players played. The last half decent C was Vidmar. My guess is not enough big boys in 2 mio nation. Difficult to do anything about that.

Bigger problem is that Luka is the youngest player they successfully added to NT, consequently he has no one to play with. And nothing will change in next few years. It's very questionable if they can build good team in Luka's window.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#269 » by Swuul » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:53 am

BruttoNostra wrote:Every place I look it says they joined FIBA in 1992 and can't find anything before that.

I can't, because only the national associations were and are FIBA members. For example Basketball England was always reprsesented by Basketball Great Britain in FIBA committees. In 1996 it was decided, that no sub-associations could take part in any FIBA sanctioned tournaments either, only teams presenting the parent associaction (hence England, Scotland and Wales could no longer take part in FIBA sanctioned tournaments).

I played in 1980 or 1981 (or maybe 1982?) in a FIBA youth tournament (could have been a friendly tournament, can't really remember anymore), where three of the six teams came from Soviet Union (Soviet Union, Kazakstan and Lithuania, if memory serves right). Wish I had any photos from that.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#270 » by vagelis » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:17 am

Giannis slaps his teammate Larentzakis.
That is not a good behavior

Giannis already has some bad behaviors during time.

The incident with the ladder, hitting Harden with the ball in the head, putting his leg in purpose to injure Irving in playoffs and now this.



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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#271 » by Ruma85 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:22 am

AleksandarN wrote:
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AleksandarN wrote:Wtf did I just watch. That’s Shameful and disrespectful treating the Czechs like they are the Washington Generals globetrotting the **** out of them lol


Read on Twitter


Majstor. 8-)

Found a better replay of it. I mean a no look behind the back over the head tap pass is wild

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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#272 » by Dr Aki » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:35 am

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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#273 » by Mrakar » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:53 am

Was at Serbia - Germany game last night. Serbia played the game at 60%. Jokic didnt even shot. Wagner was god awful for Germany for 3 qrtrs and then woke up late. Serbs let him shoot open 3s, went under a lot. What happend to his shot? Fun fact: even though game was played in Munich Germany, that didnt feel like away game for Serbia, there was at least 30% serbs in the stands.

First game of the night, Czech Rep vs Turkey was awful, it looked like middle schoolers game compared to the finals. Sengun didnt play but still...
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#274 » by durden_tyler » Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:04 am

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SERBIA leads the pack at +130 but Germany (+350), France (+500) are close behind.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#275 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:30 pm

France announced final 12. Funny thing, was it last week they cut Hornets center Debate, but days later Poirier got injured and he wont be able to play, so France called Diabate again, but he said - no, I am good...

France roster

C: Alexandre Sarr, Mouhammadou Jaiteh
PF: Guerschon Yabusele, Jaylen Hoard
SF: Zaccharie Risacher, Bilal Coulibaly, Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
SG: Elie Okobo, Isaia Cordinier
PG: Theo Maledon, Sylvain Francisco, Matthew Strazel

Man, France centers : Victor, Rudy, Lessort, Poirier, Fall.but Mouhammadou Jaiteh is going to Eurobasket.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#276 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:33 pm

durden_tyler wrote:Image

SERBIA leads the pack at +130 but Germany (+350), France (+500) are close behind.


I really hate that +100 bet odds format, do all countries use that, cause we don't? it is so needlessly more confusing than just saying 2.0.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#277 » by bravor » Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:48 pm

UcanUwill wrote:France announced final 12. Funny thing, was it last week they cut Hornets center Debate, but days later Poirier got injured and he wont be able to play, so France called Diabate again, but he said - no, I am good...

France roster

C: Alexandre Sarr, Mouhammadou Jaiteh
PF: Guerschon Yabusele, Jaylen Hoard
SF: Zaccharie Risacher, Bilal Coulibaly, Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
SG: Elie Okobo, Isaia Cordinier
PG: Theo Maledon, Sylvain Francisco, Matthew Strazel

Man, France centers : Victor, Rudy, Lessort, Poirier, Fall.but Mouhammadou Jaiteh is going to Eurobasket.


Does not matter. That will be very experimental frontcourt. 'Normal' frontcourt for the future will be around Raynaud/Wembanyama + Risacher/Coulibaly (at the wing). Pf spot will be a mix of players (Sarr being one of them, Victor probably as well in Fiba bball).
Knowing there are other options at the 4/5 spots (like Tillie, Batcho..).

Diabate refused to come back and staff did not want to call (insist on) another option (we had Bodian Massa that made the preparation, and some other possible options).

Our main issue will remain the consistency on both ends - of our backcourt compare to other teams.

We are not competiting with best teams (far from it). We belong to the Finland/Turkey etc tier (and that's being optimistic).
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#278 » by BruttoNostra » Sun Aug 17, 2025 1:25 pm

Swuul wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:Every place I look it says they joined FIBA in 1992 and can't find anything before that.

I can't, because only the national associations were and are FIBA members. For example Basketball England was always reprsesented by Basketball Great Britain in FIBA committees. In 1996 it was decided, that no sub-associations could take part in any FIBA sanctioned tournaments either, only teams presenting the parent associaction (hence England, Scotland and Wales could no longer take part in FIBA sanctioned tournaments).

I played in 1980 or 1981 (or maybe 1982?) in a FIBA youth tournament (could have been a friendly tournament, can't really remember anymore), where three of the six teams came from Soviet Union (Soviet Union, Kazakstan and Lithuania, if memory serves right). Wish I had any photos from that.

That's the point. Each republic indeed had separate teams, it's just they competed only in internal USSR tournaments and sometimes some friendly, non-FIBA tournaments (just like another poster shared a photo of LT youth team against US college team or something)
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#279 » by knicksfan974 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:18 pm

Markkanen with another casual 42/12 performance in less than 24mins, this time in a win against Poland.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 

Post#280 » by Ruma85 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:32 pm

knicksfan974 wrote:Markkanen with another casual 42/12 performance in less than 24mins, this time in a win against Poland.


Looking forward to watching the highlights in the morning. :D
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