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Post#941 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Aug 16, 2025 1:51 pm

dolphinatik wrote:I've never seen a franchise that has to include picks to trade players more than the Miami Heat. I have never liked how we throw away so much draft capital.

It’s our special move. Some have super hadokens, we have “attach draft picks to get rid of player and stay under the tax” move.

And they do it to Highsmith of all people, a 3 and D player.. with a 5 million dollar expiring deal..

Yea he is expendable because Larrson is on the roster.

But what are they really saving … really… is it wortyh giving up a draft pick

Just buyout Rozier you cheap ****.. or are they having wet dreams of a Powell/Herro/Rozier line up on the court at the same time
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#942 » by MiamiSun » Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:33 pm

They need Rozier's contract at the trade deadline. That will be a juicy expiring come Feb.


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dolphinatik wrote:I've never seen a franchise that has to include picks to trade players more than the Miami Heat. I have never liked how we throw away so much draft capital.

It’s our special move. Some have super hadokens, we have “attach draft picks to get rid of player and stay under the tax” move.

And they do it to Highsmith of all people, a 3 and D player.. with a 5 million dollar expiring deal..

Yea he is expendable because Larrson is on the roster.

But what are they really saving … really… is it wortyh giving up a draft pick

Just buyout Rozier you cheap ****.. or are they having wet dreams of a Powell/Herro/Rozier line up on the court at the same time
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Post#943 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:35 pm

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Edrice leap and a Boy Wonder defensive leap en route per Jeffrey Teague. Would mean we’re a lock for a top 6 seed if true but not sure I see it.
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Post#944 » by vagelis » Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:58 pm

Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler mock the Haywood Highsmith trade.
Warriors have the worst characters in the league right now

https://athlonsports.com/nba/miami-heat/jimmy-butler-claps-back-at-draymond-green-after-being-blamed-for-haywood-highsmith-getting-traded

Look what you’ve done Jimbo


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Post#945 » by carnageta » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:14 pm

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Bam MVP/DPOY/MIP/Finals MVP/Championship season en route


No reason why these shouldn't be the expectations for Bam lol. He's a max-level player on a max contract, in the prime of his career.

Anything short of elite defence on 20/10/4 and 60% TS will be a subpar season at this point.
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Post#946 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:29 pm

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Edrice leap and a Boy Wonder defensive leap en route per Jeffrey Teague. Would mean we’re a lock for a top 6 seed if true but not sure I see it.


This is what I'm talking about. A surprising amount of media with no Miami connections are pretty optimistic on the Heat this year.
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Post#947 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:37 pm

If the Heat can find two vet complimentary gems with the new found space we will be a very competitive team. Need a solid energy backup big and another guard. Malcolm Brogden is still hanging out there if looking for a pure floor general. If we go the defensive combo guard route Gary Payton 2. If just looking for another vet shooter Alec Burks. We have some nice flexibility thanks to the HH trade.
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Post#948 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:40 pm

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Bam MVP/DPOY/MIP/Finals MVP/Championship season en route


No reason why these shouldn't be the expectations for Bam lol. He's a max-level player on a max contract, in the prime of his career.

Anything short of elite defence on 20/10/4 and 60% TS will be a subpar season at this point.


I disagreed at first because I thought you were saying he should average 24+ in addition to that but when you listed the numbers I agree 100%. I saw something the other day that showed 12 players in history have averaged 24-10 and also made an al defense team. 11 of those 12 were MVPs and the other was Anthony Davis lol, pretty shocking.

20-10-5 should be the goal nightly although I think the rebounds drop down to 8-9 if Ware is starting and Bam is roaming on the perimeter. As for scoring I have no clue what Spos plans are there but I’m assuming he’ll be 3rd or 4th option if he still goes to Wiggins over him so we’ll see what happens there.
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Post#949 » by fincane30 » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:41 pm

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Not really, Haywood is better than both. We should’ve been receiving something for Haywood in a deal with a contender or something. Then maybe you can flip whatever that is plus a 2nd with Terry to get someone that is a legitimate rotation player like Vucevic or someone while also shedding a little salary. Or just held on to it

Haywood is someone we got off the scrap heap and worked within our system. I guaranteed the league places little to no value on HH. Most likely viewed him as another scrap heap jag. Watch him get passed around the league now and end up on the back end of rosters until out of the league. Same path as Rodney McGruder.


We just saw the Suns prefer 5 2nds or whatever to an additional 1st in the KD trade because of the flexibility or whatever they said, they may not be major assets but they do have some value and there have been several gems drafted in the 2nd round and drafting is this organization’s strong point imo. Instead of using them to bolster the roster or draft guys we like we’re using them to shed salary that we gave out to guys, we didn’t have the sign Haywood or Dedmon. The Dipo situation was unfortunate.


The Suns preferred those second rounders to an actual player. Maybe flexibility was the goal but the Rockets offered Whitmore up and the Suns said we'll take the 2nds instead.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/suns-didnt-want-24-ppg-223917611.html

So when we're talking about what could be had for Haywood Highsmith or other previous Heat projects I'm not sure 2nds would have been as easily attainable as the faction of Heat twitter that moonlights as social media GMs think. Really all depends on the team you're dealing with. Suns wanted picks over Whitmore. Washington was willing to give up 2nd rounders for a former 1st rounder who is still very young.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#950 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:42 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:If the Heat can find two vet complimentary gems with the new found space we will be a very competitive team. Need a solid energy backup big and another guard. Malcolm Brogden is still hanging out there if looking for a pure floor general. If we go the defensive combo guard route Gary Payton 2. If just looking for another vet shooter Alec Burks. We have some nice flexibility thanks to the HH trade.


I want to see what’s going to happen with the Derozan and Vuc situations
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Post#951 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:43 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Haywood is someone we got off the scrap heap and worked within our system. I guaranteed the league places little to no value on HH. Most likely viewed him as another scrap heap jag. Watch him get passed around the league now and end up on the back end of rosters until out of the league. Same path as Rodney McGruder.


We just saw the Suns prefer 5 2nds or whatever to an additional 1st in the KD trade because of the flexibility or whatever they said, they may not be major assets but they do have some value and there have been several gems drafted in the 2nd round and drafting is this organization’s strong point imo. Instead of using them to bolster the roster or draft guys we like we’re using them to shed salary that we gave out to guys, we didn’t have the sign Haywood or Dedmon. The Dipo situation was unfortunate.


The Suns preferred those second rounders to an actual player. Maybe flexibility was the goal but the Rockets offered Whitmore up and the Suns said we'll take the 2nds instead.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/suns-didnt-want-24-ppg-223917611.html


Yea thats what it was, I was thinking I saw a 1st somewhere when it went down but it was Whitmore. Sticking to my overall point though!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#952 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:44 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:If the Heat can find two vet complimentary gems with the new found space we will be a very competitive team. Need a solid energy backup big and another guard. Malcolm Brogden is still hanging out there if looking for a pure floor general. If we go the defensive combo guard route Gary Payton 2. If just looking for another vet shooter Alec Burks. We have some nice flexibility thanks to the HH trade.


I do wonder where another guard would play with Herro, Powell, Mitchell, and Larrson there. It'll probably be someone like Duu Smith. Break the glass type.
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Post#953 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:44 pm

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Edrice leap and a Boy Wonder defensive leap en route per Jeffrey Teague. Would mean we’re a lock for a top 6 seed if true but not sure I see it.


This is what I'm talking about. A surprising amount of media with no Miami connections are pretty optimistic on the Heat this year.


Im starting to drink the kool aid myself per usual, probably setting myself up for disappointment but hopefully not
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Post#954 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:46 pm

Id love Precious to return on a minimum, but tbh i don't know if he's still salty after getting traded away lol
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Post#956 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:50 pm

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Trey Lyles?? Ugh I hate that guy. He ALWAYS burned me when I got him off waivers in fantasy. A big shouldn't be **** up your field goal percentage.
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Post#957 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Aug 16, 2025 8:51 pm

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Post#958 » by Hallstar » Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:04 pm

Jovic 22 pts 4/7 from 3 in win vs Germany. Again majority minutes at the 3. His future is a 3/4 not a 4/5. And gives us a 6'9 and above front court as a bonus.

If we don't get some sense, he'll blow up in Denver as a better version of MPJ
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Post#959 » by lastb1ckman » Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:16 pm

Hallstar wrote:Jovic 22 pts 4/7 from 3 in win vs Germany. Again majority minutes at the 3. His future is a 3/4 not a 4/5. And gives us a 6'9 and above front court as a bonus.

If we don't get some sense, he'll blow up in Denver as a better version of MPJ


Tbh, im looking forward to when we trade away Wiggins for this exact reason
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Post#960 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:25 pm

Hallstar wrote:Jovic 22 pts 4/7 from 3 in win vs Germany. Again majority minutes at the 3. His future is a 3/4 not a 4/5. And gives us a 6'9 and above front court as a bonus.

If we don't get some sense, he'll blow up in Denver as a better version of MPJ


A better playmaking MPJ is a development for Jovic id gladly welcome. Hes not near as air headed as him either.
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