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Fierce1 wrote:Looks like KP playing well again.
He had 20 points against the win over Slovenia.
brackdan70 wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Looks like KP playing well again.
He had 20 points against the win over Slovenia.
Meh. Slovenia doesn’t have any good player
return2glory wrote:Not once I've heard anyone say KP has to learn to rebound. Yet a lot of people are on Simons for not playing defense. He probably won't be here more than 4 months into the season. Let it go people.
Shak_Celts wrote:IT4 might have been the worst defender in the history of the league, some people here still want him to have a statue.
Fierce1 wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Looks like KP playing well again.
He had 20 points against the win over Slovenia.
Meh. Slovenia doesn’t have any good player
Yeah, but if he's still sick I doubt he scores 20.
All I'm saying is it's looking like he's not sick anymore.
Shak_Celts wrote:IT4 might have been the worst defender in the history of the league, some people here still want him to have a statue.
chrisab123 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:IT4 might have been the worst defender in the history of the league, some people here still want him to have a statue.
Because he showed heart and was a dirt dog. When you think about it it’s the same logic that people have with Smart. Two completely different players but both guys who were good at times but their reputation makes you believe that they deserve to have their numbers in the rafters.
Shak_Celts wrote:chrisab123 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:IT4 might have been the worst defender in the history of the league, some people here still want him to have a statue.
Because he showed heart and was a dirt dog. When you think about it it’s the same logic that people have with Smart. Two completely different players but both guys who were good at times but their reputation makes you believe that they deserve to have their numbers in the rafters.
People liked Kemba and praised him, Kyrie too before he did what he did. Neither were defenders. Kyrie could defend, but didn’t. I remember most of us believing he would when he came here. Nope, playing with heart wasn’t a criteria. Being good offensively was, it washed anything else away. I used IT4 because he was the worst ever. I don’t ever recall us picking up a 20pt per game scorer with as many complaints as there are now about defense.
I don’t believe it’s the money. The money doesn’t even matter atm, to the owners, as long as they deal with it by the end of the season. I have never seen so many people concerned about owners saving money, if it is the reason. They usually say it’s not their money or something along those lines. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Shak_Celts wrote:. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Bad-Thoma wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Shak_Celts wrote:Do you guys think 15 is going to be vacant until the end of the season or are we adding someone from camp?
I think it will stay open unless we are shocked by a camp performer. Highly unlikely. I think we let go of JD to keep it open all season. Camp guys are going to Maine if anything.
Bad-Thoma wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Shak_Celts wrote:chrisab123 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:IT4 might have been the worst defender in the history of the league, some people here still want him to have a statue.
Because he showed heart and was a dirt dog. When you think about it it’s the same logic that people have with Smart. Two completely different players but both guys who were good at times but their reputation makes you believe that they deserve to have their numbers in the rafters.
People liked Kemba and praised him, Kyrie too before he did what he did. Neither were defenders. Kyrie could defend, but didn’t. I remember most of us believing he would when he came here. Nope, playing with heart wasn’t a criteria. Being good offensively was, it washed anything else away. I used IT4 because he was the worst ever. I don’t ever recall us picking up a 20pt per game scorer with as many complaints as there are now about defense.
I don’t believe it’s the money. The money doesn’t even matter atm, to the owners, as long as they deal with it by the end of the season. I have never seen so many people concerned about owners saving money, if it is the reason. They usually say it’s not their money or something along those lines. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
djFan71 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:chrisab123 wrote:
Because he showed heart and was a dirt dog. When you think about it it’s the same logic that people have with Smart. Two completely different players but both guys who were good at times but their reputation makes you believe that they deserve to have their numbers in the rafters.
People liked Kemba and praised him, Kyrie too before he did what he did. Neither were defenders. Kyrie could defend, but didn’t. I remember most of us believing he would when he came here. Nope, playing with heart wasn’t a criteria. Being good offensively was, it washed anything else away. I used IT4 because he was the worst ever. I don’t ever recall us picking up a 20pt per game scorer with as many complaints as there are now about defense.
I don’t believe it’s the money. The money doesn’t even matter atm, to the owners, as long as they deal with it by the end of the season. I have never seen so many people concerned about owners saving money, if it is the reason. They usually say it’s not their money or something along those lines. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Simons just isn’t as good offensively as those other guys either, is the main problem. If he was $30M wouldn’t be an issue. But even those guys aren’t the types of players I prefer. Kyrie is another level than the rest so I was on board (after initially hating trading the pick).
It’s also weird to cast vague insinuations on other people’s motives and then not say what they are. Why can’t people have basketball reasons for not preferring a particular player without it being something shady?
Shak_Celts wrote:djFan71 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:
People liked Kemba and praised him, Kyrie too before he did what he did. Neither were defenders. Kyrie could defend, but didn’t. I remember most of us believing he would when he came here. Nope, playing with heart wasn’t a criteria. Being good offensively was, it washed anything else away. I used IT4 because he was the worst ever. I don’t ever recall us picking up a 20pt per game scorer with as many complaints as there are now about defense.
I don’t believe it’s the money. The money doesn’t even matter atm, to the owners, as long as they deal with it by the end of the season. I have never seen so many people concerned about owners saving money, if it is the reason. They usually say it’s not their money or something along those lines. I have my thoughts on why, 2 reasons, but saying it isn’t necessary for this convo.
Simons just isn’t as good offensively as those other guys either, is the main problem. If he was $30M wouldn’t be an issue. But even those guys aren’t the types of players I prefer. Kyrie is another level than the rest so I was on board (after initially hating trading the pick).
It’s also weird to cast vague insinuations on other people’s motives and then not say what they are. Why can’t people have basketball reasons for not preferring a particular player without it being something shady?
It’s not shady it’s just not being said, using things that don’t add up instead. It’s my opinion of what’s going on, not that it’s true. There are a lot of things I don’t say as a mod, because people will derail the thread.
It’s just weird calling out defense as though it’s a major flaw that they never allow. Sure, Kyrie is generational. (Not in that bucks series but w/e) Kemba and IT4 were very talented scorers, made more marvelous because of size, but there isn’t a chasm between them and Simons or many of the other scoring non defenders, especially because one was probably the worst defender in history, while Simons is bad, and the other wasn’t much better.
Anyway, I’m done. It’s not that serious.