Stockton says LeBrons titles don’t have value

[DimesandKnicks]

If 34 year old Rodman was on a Lebron team he would be called a washed up brick layer who can’t space the floor by all the Lebron apologists. He would then be traded for Mike Miller after the first half a season of them playing together.

He’d be Tristan Thompson on steroids

[MavsDirk41]

Ok? I mean even for me, MJ still the GOAT and I will only start to consider LeBron once he's done playing but I'm not sure you understand what we're discussing here. I didn't even mention LeBron in my previous post because it's irrelevant. I suggest you read back the actual topic and if you want to talk about who's the GOAT then we have a sticky thread for that.

And you posted a clip “mj was a horrible player” and if you actually read the posts in this thread there is discussion of how much MJ helped “developed” Pippen.

As for Rodman, traded for will Purdue, nobody else wanted him as he was seen as a lockeroom cancer and a total head case. Rodman effing off to Vegas every few months wasn’t going to fly with 90% of the league.

And Duncan wasn’t even in the league in ‘95 so you must be very very confused like come on man

He knows that. He quoted your boy MavsDirk cause he was the one who claimed Pop and Duncan couldn't wait till Rodman left. It looks like "it's you" who actually needs to read the posts in this thread.

Hey i admitted to my mistake, i got Robinson and Duncan mixed up. It happens. Kind of like you sending me a laughing emoji when i said the 89 Pistons were loaded with talent. Im sure you didnt mean that?

[ball_takes23]

If 34 year old Rodman was on a Lebron team he would be called a washed up brick layer who can’t space the floor by all the Lebron apologists. He would then be traded for Mike Miller after the first half a season of them playing together.

Yea, in the post illegal defense era of the NBA and based on how defense started guarding players, a guy like Rodman does become a tougher fit for many teams offensively, so they wouldn't necessarily be wrong, even though that's not what you were going for.

You would have to adjust the type of lineups you're using him with to maximize his on court value and minimize the impact of negative spacing.

Illegal defense allowed that to be far less of an issue when Chicago was playing.

He would likely end up on the Warriors. He’d be a great fit next to Steph and would have more value to GS than pretty much any other team.

[ball_takes23]

If 34 year old Rodman was on a Lebron team he would be called a washed up brick layer who can’t space the floor by all the Lebron apologists. He would then be traded for Mike Miller after the first half a season of them playing together.

He’d be Tristan Thompson on steroids

Tristian Thompson: Lebron’s 150th best ever teammate

Tristian Thompson on steroids: MJ’s second best ever teammate

[TroubleS0me]

this thread is going wow

[LakerLegend]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordans-longtime-agent-david-falk-zings-lebron-james-over-cherry-picked-championship-teams/

[Cavsfansince84]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordans-longtime-agent-david-falk-zings-lebron-james-over-cherry-picked-championship-teams/

Falk was MJ's agent and has also had back and forth with Rich Paul(LeBron's agent) over the years. So of course he's going to say stuff like that. People can criticize LeBron for forming teams but at the end of the day if you can't also give him credit for being able to win in 3 different places with completely different rosters/coaching staffs along with drag the 07 Cavs to a finals then you shouldn't even act like you're objective. Falk also said MJ would have won 15 titles despite the fact he only played 11 full seasons with the Bulls. The same guy who retired after a 3 peat because he had 'nothing left to prove' isn't sticking around to win 15. That's the sort of hyperbole we've been dealing with for the last 30 years.

[Iwasawitness]

New to the thread, but I knew this is would bring out the worse of the Lebron stans. Kudos to those who have the energy to go up against this little cult. I’m rarely not sarcastic when I’m speaking to them.

I'll gladly take the worst of them over what you bring. You literally do nothing but call other fans names and offer no original insight or thought. And 90% of the time, what you say is wrong anyways. Don't pretend that you offer anything substantial. You don't and never have.

[JM00n69]

The original hardest road.

[DimesandKnicks]

If 34 year old Rodman was on a Lebron team he would be called a washed up brick layer who can’t space the floor by all the Lebron apologists. He would then be traded for Mike Miller after the first half a season of them playing together.

He’d be Tristan Thompson on steroids

Tristian Thompson: Lebron’s 150th best ever teammate

Tristian Thompson on steroids: MJ’s second best ever teammate

TT was the third best player in the Cavs finals run. So yea, pretty sure anyone would rather have Rodman

[Iwasawitness]

He’d be Tristan Thompson on steroids

Tristian Thompson: Lebron’s 150th best ever teammate

Tristian Thompson on steroids: MJ’s second best ever teammate

TT was the third best player in the Cavs finals run. So yea, pretty sure anyone would rather have Rodman

How dare you disrespect Sasha Kaun like that. Apologize now.

[SelfishPlayer]

Lebron's championships have more value than Stockton's combined assists and steals. Stockton got his steals from sneaking behind big men posting up. Stockton's assists were inflated from having him initiate everything all the time. Offenses will never run through a non scorer that way in the future.

[LakerLegend]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordans-longtime-agent-david-falk-zings-lebron-james-over-cherry-picked-championship-teams/

Falk was MJ's agent and has also had back and forth with Rich Paul(LeBron's agent) over the years. So of course he's going to say stuff like that. People can criticize LeBron for forming teams but at the end of the day if you can't also give him credit for being able to win in 3 different places with completely different rosters/coaching staffs along with drag the 07 Cavs to a finals then you shouldn't even act like you're objective. Falk also said MJ would have won 15 titles despite the fact he only played 11 full seasons with the Bulls. The same guy who retired after a 3 peat because he had 'nothing left to prove' isn't sticking around to win 15. That's the sort of hyperbole we've been dealing with for the last 30 years.

You dont need to be Jordan's agent to say that.

They are cherry-picked chips by virtue of super team and free-agency manufacturing.

[Cavsfansince84]

You dont need to be Jordan's agent to say that.

They are cherry-picked chips by virtue of super team and free-agency manufacturing.

Dude, you linked his quote like it means something, my point is that it means nothing coming from MJ's own agent who then says 'o MJ would have won 15 rings yada yada if he'd done what LeBron did'. Its as biased a source as you can find on this. It'd be like quoting Rich Paul when it comes to LeBron and acting like its from some high authority.

[Iwasawitness]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/michael-jordans-longtime-agent-david-falk-zings-lebron-james-over-cherry-picked-championship-teams/

Falk was MJ's agent and has also had back and forth with Rich Paul(LeBron's agent) over the years. So of course he's going to say stuff like that. People can criticize LeBron for forming teams but at the end of the day if you can't also give him credit for being able to win in 3 different places with completely different rosters/coaching staffs along with drag the 07 Cavs to a finals then you shouldn't even act like you're objective. Falk also said MJ would have won 15 titles despite the fact he only played 11 full seasons with the Bulls. The same guy who retired after a 3 peat because he had 'nothing left to prove' isn't sticking around to win 15. That's the sort of hyperbole we've been dealing with for the last 30 years.

You dont need to be Jordan's agent to say that.

They are cherry-picked chips by virtue of super team and free-agency manufacturing.

No they aren't. They're a product of LeBrons greatness and overall dominance as a player.

[lakerz12]

Falk was MJ's agent and has also had back and forth with Rich Paul(LeBron's agent) over the years. So of course he's going to say stuff like that. People can criticize LeBron for forming teams but at the end of the day if you can't also give him credit for being able to win in 3 different places with completely different rosters/coaching staffs along with drag the 07 Cavs to a finals then you shouldn't even act like you're objective. Falk also said MJ would have won 15 titles despite the fact he only played 11 full seasons with the Bulls. The same guy who retired after a 3 peat because he had 'nothing left to prove' isn't sticking around to win 15. That's the sort of hyperbole we've been dealing with for the last 30 years.

You dont need to be Jordan's agent to say that.

They are cherry-picked chips by virtue of super team and free-agency manufacturing.

No they aren't. They're a product of LeBrons greatness and overall dominance as a player.

Lebron was great, no doubt about it.

But I can’t put him past Jordan, even if their accomplishments were equal (Jordan has more), because of his toxic personality.

They almost didn’t allow him on the USA basketball team, remember?

Guy is sort of a clown. He is not a consummate winner.

He was immature for much of his career. He also flops.

[Mephariel]

You dont need to be Jordan's agent to say that.

They are cherry-picked chips by virtue of super team and free-agency manufacturing.

No they aren't. They're a product of LeBrons greatness and overall dominance as a player.

Lebron was great, no doubt about it.

But I can’t put him past Jordan, even if their accomplishments were equal (Jordan has more), because of his toxic personality.

They almost didn’t allow him on the USA basketball team, remember?

Guy is sort of a clown. He is not a consummate winner.

He was immature for much of his career. He also flops.

I have Jordan above Lebron.

But Lebron was immature? He kept his body in shape, improved his jump shot to a point where he was shooting 41 percent from threes at the age 39. You pointed out that they almost didn't allow him on the USA team but not that he won 3 gold medals and was the leader of the Paris team?

[og15]

If 34 year old Rodman was on a Lebron team he would be called a washed up brick layer who can’t space the floor by all the Lebron apologists. He would then be traded for Mike Miller after the first half a season of them playing together.

He’d be Tristan Thompson on steroids

Good comp, though Thompson was more likely to attempt to score. Thompson was used as a C, which was my point in a previous post that one would need to use Rodman a bit differently lineup wise.

[axeman23]

Tristian Thompson: Lebron’s 150th best ever teammate

Tristian Thompson on steroids: MJ’s second best ever teammate

TT was the third best player in the Cavs finals run. So yea, pretty sure anyone would rather have Rodman

How dare you disrespect Sasha Kaun like that. Apologize now.

I'll see your Sasha Kaun, and raise you a "Mr 93" himself, Timofey Mozgov...

[Iwasawitness]

TT was the third best player in the Cavs finals run. So yea, pretty sure anyone would rather have Rodman

How dare you disrespect Sasha Kaun like that. Apologize now.

I'll see your Sasha Kaun, and raise you a "Mr 93" himself, Timofey Mozgov...

Hey he at least got a fat contract after that.