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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#241 » by COY0607 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 1:36 pm

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And they weren’t the only ones

He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


To add further context, they see it as a given that Varsho won’t be a Jay beyond 2026. Primary reason being his agent Scott Boras
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#242 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:18 pm

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And they weren’t the only ones

He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


Varsho has also never been this good offensively. His home run pace right now is like tops in the league but for his career he’s never showed this level or power.


And the sample is tiny because he's been out for most of the season. Varsho has been a streaky hitter his whole career. He just hasnt had a chance to cool down yet this season because he's barely played a month's worth of games.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#243 » by JN » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:11 pm

Canadian kid getting interviewed before the game at the Little League World Series throwing some shots.

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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#244 » by Wutang_CMB » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:17 pm

Going to this one
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#245 » by Potential » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:27 pm

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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#246 » by Boogie! » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:27 pm

JN wrote:Canadian kid getting interviewed before the game at the Little League World Series throwing some shots.

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cal raleigh over juan soto?

maybe this was a juan soto blue jays shafting thing?
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#247 » by Mehar » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:52 pm

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And they weren’t the only ones

He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


To add further context, they see it as a given that Varsho won’t be a Jay beyond 2026. Primary reason being his agent Scott Boras

That is another factor I wanted him traded as well, being Scott Boras. I said last month when Varsho was hitting a couple of homers in the minors on rehab the same week of the trade deadline (while batting .176 overall in the minors), he should be dealt to a team who needed a quality defensive outfielder, with Jays getting another solid arm in the bullpen.

If you listen to the 6ix Inning Stretch Podcast from three days ago where Varsho was interviewed by Whitt Merrifield and Lindsey Dunn- when asked about a contract extension to stay in Toronto, Varsho said he has a "number in mind" and will wait to see if the Jays match that number. According to Varsho, it is a number that he could not refuse. I wonder what that "number" is? It sure sounded like Varsho was interested in testing free agency after next year from the podcast. If that is the case, I would still just offer him a one year arbitration and let's see how he performs in 2026.

If he can stay healthy for the year, his current "dead arm" shows improvement, and if he can keep his power numbers for the whole year- then maybe the Jays can discuss things with him after next year. If not, they can just let him go if Boras comes back with a crazy demand. You still have Myles Straw as your insurance policy as your elite defender, as he has club options for 2027 and 2028. It will be a sad day for Randle if he leaves though. I wonder how will Randle cope if Varsho is gone? He can still cheer for Varsho if he is elsewhere. For example, Tony Gwynn (RIP), was one of my favourite players and he was in San Diego for 20 years. For 19 straight seasons he hit over .300, which is unheard of. Only in his rookie year, he hit .289. He was never a Blue Jay, but I still loved the guy. A career .338 hitter, and probably the greatest pure hitter I ever seen and of the past few decades. You can still root for and admire a player, even if he is not a Jay.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#248 » by Vampirate » Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:52 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
johanliebert wrote:He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


Varsho has also never been this good offensively. His home run pace right now is like tops in the league but for his career he’s never showed this level or power.


And the sample is tiny because he's been out for most of the season. Varsho has been a streaky hitter his whole career. He just hasnt had a chance to cool down yet this season because he's barely played a month's worth of games.


Varsho hit .214 and had a negative .300 OBP last year, and despite that put up a 5.1 WAR, whatever he does with the bat is just a bonus to what his real value is.

He's basically a lesser version of Devon White.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#249 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:06 pm

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Varsho has also never been this good offensively. His home run pace right now is like tops in the league but for his career he’s never showed this level or power.


And the sample is tiny because he's been out for most of the season. Varsho has been a streaky hitter his whole career. He just hasnt had a chance to cool down yet this season because he's barely played a month's worth of games.


Varsho hit .214 and had a negative .300 OBP last year, and despite that put up a 5.1 WAR, whatever he does with the bat is just a bonus to what his real value is.

He's basically a lesser version of Devon White.


5.1 bWAR, 3.2 fWAR

In any case, the tweet was clearly referencing his offensive production. There is no doubt that Varsho is an impactful player, but he's never been an MVP candidate over the course of an entire season (which is what he would be if he could maintain his current production over a full season). 130+ wRC+ with the best defence in the league is a top-5 position player.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#250 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:08 pm

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And they weren’t the only ones

He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


To add further context, they see it as a given that Varsho won’t be a Jay beyond 2026. Primary reason being his agent Scott Boras

Shapiro has a great relationship with Boras. He nor MVP Varsho are going anywhere any time soon.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#251 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:09 pm

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cal raleigh over juan soto?

maybe this was a juan soto blue jays shafting thing?

Kid isn’t a Jays fan if he’s picking Cal Raleigh.

Gonna guess a west coast based M’s fan.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#252 » by Mehar » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:22 pm

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johanliebert wrote:He was one of their best trade assets it was just a suggestion from them. At that point Varsho missed a great deal of time.


To add further context, they see it as a given that Varsho won’t be a Jay beyond 2026. Primary reason being his agent Scott Boras

Shapiro has a great relationship with Boras. He nor MVP Varsho are going anywhere any time soon.

Time will tell. Do not kid yourself and be in denial, since you love Varsho. You have Loperfido, Straw, Lukes, Schneider, Santander, Springer and a couple of guys in Buffalo also looking for playing time in 2026.

If Boras comes back with a ridiculous demand, this front office with their payroll level the way it is right now in the upper tax threshold (at risk of losing ten spots in the draft), can easily decide that they will go the cheaper route since they have Straw as the insurance policy.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#253 » by Boogie! » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:43 pm

jays are 52-3 when they score at least 5 runs.
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Post#254 » by Wutang_CMB » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:47 pm

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Re: Texas Rangers (61-62) @ Toronto Blue Jays (72-51) August 15-17 

Post#255 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:57 pm

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To add further context, they see it as a given that Varsho won’t be a Jay beyond 2026. Primary reason being his agent Scott Boras

Shapiro has a great relationship with Boras. He nor MVP Varsho are going anywhere any time soon.

Time will tell. Do not kid yourself and be in denial, since you love Varsho. You have Loperfido, Straw, Lukes, Schneider, Santander, Springer and a couple of guys in Buffalo also looking for playing time in 2026.

If Boras comes back with a ridiculous demand, this front office with their payroll level the way it is right now in the upper tax threshold (at risk of losing ten spots in the draft), can easily decide that they will go the cheaper route since they have Straw as the insurance policy.

Straw is not even a fraction of the player MVP Varsho is. He’s going nowhere.

And what’s even a ridiculous demand for the Jays at this point? They just gave out the worst contract in baseball history earlier this season.
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Post#256 » by Mehar » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:01 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Shapiro has a great relationship with Boras. He nor MVP Varsho are going anywhere any time soon.

Time will tell. Do not kid yourself and be in denial, since you love Varsho. You have Loperfido, Straw, Lukes, Schneider, Santander, Springer and a couple of guys in Buffalo also looking for playing time in 2026.

If Boras comes back with a ridiculous demand, this front office with their payroll level the way it is right now in the upper tax threshold (at risk of losing ten spots in the draft), can easily decide that they will go the cheaper route since they have Straw as the insurance policy.

Straw is not even a fraction of the player MVP Varsho is. He’s going nowhere.

And what’s even a ridiculous demand for the Jays at this point? They just gave out the worst contract in baseball history earlier this season.

You have a point there. I thought you said it was worst contract in sports history (lol).
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#257 » by JN » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:43 pm

Two MLB Era Leaders (115 innings pitched+) in back to back starts. (Eovaldi and Skenes)
We have faced some ridiculously tough starting pitching going back to the Dodgers series - Kershaw, Snell, Glasnow, Horton, Boyd, DeGrom, Eovaldi and Skenes, were 8 of the pitchers over a 10 game stretch.
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#258 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:45 pm

Gotta love a good pickoff
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#259 » by Boogie! » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:47 pm

Why is Springer back at leadoff. I liked him as are run producer
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Re: Texas Rangers (61-63) @ Toronto Blue Jays (73-51) August 15-17 

Post#260 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:49 pm

Boogie! wrote:Why is Springer back at leadoff. I liked him as are run producer

Big mistake

I wonder how long it will take them to figure it out
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