OT: NFL 25 Draft and Beyond Thread

[Synciere]

I don't think there should be a rush to do anything with Dart. I'm not eager to throw him into the fire early. Let Russ play and evaluate where we are after 7 games

Agreed. We’re not contenders so might as well ride Russ until the wheels fall off. Love watching him coach up Dart after that 80 yard throw to Beaux Collins…

[Synciere]

I'm not an offensive line guy but Neal looks like he played a good game as well

thats promising

He had one bad miss that I saw but otherwise was really solid yeah.

[Synciere]

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I don't know if we will see him against starters but its tempting because we have been so desperate recently for top notch QB play.

Whats more impressive to me he's basically hit nearly every throw in the route tree in two games and looks so comfortable doing it.

I've seen him hit a deep shot for a touchdown, ive seen him have touch on screens (with different angles), I've seen him hit multiple seem shots down the middle, I've seen him hit a back shoulder throw, Iv'e seen him have great ball placement on slants/quick outs.

And then his pocket awareness seems to be way ahead of what anyone could have thought. He knows how to move around the pocket really well.

I came into this thread to make those same exact points MP. I didn’t love the pick at the time, but it’s hard not to like seeing your first round pick move as decisively and accurately as he has so far. He’s supposed to do well against backups.

[Synciere]

Turbo Miller seems like he has way more juice than Singletary at this point. I’d like to see him be RB3. I wish Skattebo was healthy because I want to see him out there too

Yeah there’s no way we can keep him off the 53 right now.. that said, Skattebo has barely played nor practiced. Keeping four RBs means someone else doesn’t make it, and our tight ends have been producing. I don’t see a spot for Daniel Bellinger right now.

[Synciere]

Run defense looks sketchy but I'm quite happy with the pass rushing.

Yeah without Dex I don't think we will be able to stop the run

That's bad, but I cannot expect every thing to be fixed. That's an area that we'll have to address in the draft we need depth behind Dex.

Last year teams just waited until Dex was off the field before attempting to run.. we still don’t have a true backup for him

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think there should be a rush to do anything with Dart. I'm not eager to throw him into the fire early. Let Russ play and evaluate where we are after 7 games

Agreed. We’re not contenders so might as well ride Russ until the wheels fall off. Love watching him coach up Dart after that 80 yard throw to Beaux Collins…

We gotta establish a good running game. I think that will get the best out of Russ.

[MrDollarBills]

Should the Jets inquire about Shedeur?

[j4remi]

Should the Jets inquire about Shedeur?

They shoulda drafted him (I spent three rounds hoping for it). But now, I feel like they've committed to Fields for at least this season. If he flops, they'll draft someone next time.

I'd still give up a future pick that isn't a first for him. But the drama that'd spark is probably not worth it in the minds of the FO. Seeing Fields flub screen passes is concerning regardless. I got Zach Wilson flashbacks.

[MrDollarBills]

Should the Jets inquire about Shedeur?

They shoulda drafted him (I spent three rounds hoping for it). But now, I feel like they've committed to Fields for at least this season. If he flops, they'll draft someone next time.

I'd still give up a future pick that isn't a first for him. But the drama that'd spark is probably not worth it in the minds of the FO. Seeing Fields flub screen passes is concerning regardless. I got Zach Wilson flashbacks.

Yeah I have serious concerns about Fields. Everything we've seen in preseason and the camp reports are alarming. I know that the offense will be run heavy but teams are gonna stack the box. He will have to make throws.

With Tyrod the only other back up...I think the GM needs to weigh all options

[DaGawd]

giants offer jameis winston for sauce gardner straight up

[j4remi]

Should the Jets inquire about Shedeur?

They shoulda drafted him (I spent three rounds hoping for it). But now, I feel like they've committed to Fields for at least this season. If he flops, they'll draft someone next time.

I'd still give up a future pick that isn't a first for him. But the drama that'd spark is probably not worth it in the minds of the FO. Seeing Fields flub screen passes is concerning regardless. I got Zach Wilson flashbacks.

Yeah I have serious concerns about Fields. Everything we've seen in preseason and the camp reports are alarming. I know that the offense will be run heavy but teams are gonna stack the box. He will have to make throws.

With Tyrod the only other back up...I think the GM needs to weigh all options

Tyrod's the only other back-up people have heard of. They've got Adrian Martinez who's young, nothing special, but has looked perfectly competent for two preseasons now. Then they have Brady Cook, a UDFA who has flashed some arm talent early. Knowing that the offense is being built for screens, checkdowns, and running; Martinez and Cook are fine as third option/practice squad depth.

I'd be more concerned about Fields if the playoffs weren't already a longshot heading into the season. For a mulligan/rebuild year, I'm okay with being annoyed but getting a high enough pick to draft a promising QB prospect.

[DaGawd]

colts down bad.. daniel jones is their qb1

[GONYK]

They shoulda drafted him (I spent three rounds hoping for it). But now, I feel like they've committed to Fields for at least this season. If he flops, they'll draft someone next time.

I'd still give up a future pick that isn't a first for him. But the drama that'd spark is probably not worth it in the minds of the FO. Seeing Fields flub screen passes is concerning regardless. I got Zach Wilson flashbacks.

Yeah I have serious concerns about Fields. Everything we've seen in preseason and the camp reports are alarming. I know that the offense will be run heavy but teams are gonna stack the box. He will have to make throws.

With Tyrod the only other back up...I think the GM needs to weigh all options

Tyrod's the only other back-up people have heard of. They've got Adrian Martinez who's young, nothing special, but has looked perfectly competent for two preseasons now. Then they have Brady Cook, a UDFA who has flashed some arm talent early. Knowing that the offense is being built for screens, checkdowns, and running; Martinez and Cook are fine as third option/practice squad depth.

I'd be more concerned about Fields if the playoffs weren't already a longshot heading into the season. For a mulligan/rebuild year, I'm okay with being annoyed but getting a high enough pick to draft a promising QB prospect.

I was impressed with Martinez. When I saw a game or two of his at Nebraska, he was godawful. He's come a long way.

Not saying he's a starter or anything, but seems like a good guy to have in the system.

[j4remi]

I was impressed with Martinez. When I saw a game or two of his at Nebraska, he was godawful. He's come a long way.

Not saying he's a starter or anything, but seems like a good guy to have in the system.

Yeah, he's not screaming off the screen or anything. But he's been surprisingly reliable against backups and third-stringers. Since the Jets aren't ready to compete this season, I really think he's worth the flier. Our WR's didn't do him any favors with back-to-back drops where he hit them on the numbers too.

[MrDollarBills]

They shoulda drafted him (I spent three rounds hoping for it). But now, I feel like they've committed to Fields for at least this season. If he flops, they'll draft someone next time.

I'd still give up a future pick that isn't a first for him. But the drama that'd spark is probably not worth it in the minds of the FO. Seeing Fields flub screen passes is concerning regardless. I got Zach Wilson flashbacks.

Yeah I have serious concerns about Fields. Everything we've seen in preseason and the camp reports are alarming. I know that the offense will be run heavy but teams are gonna stack the box. He will have to make throws.

With Tyrod the only other back up...I think the GM needs to weigh all options

Tyrod's the only other back-up people have heard of. They've got Adrian Martinez who's young, nothing special, but has looked perfectly competent for two preseasons now. Then they have Brady Cook, a UDFA who has flashed some arm talent early. Knowing that the offense is being built for screens, checkdowns, and running; Martinez and Cook are fine as third option/practice squad depth.

I'd be more concerned about Fields if the playoffs weren't already a longshot heading into the season. For a mulligan/rebuild year, I'm okay with being annoyed but getting a high enough pick to draft a promising QB prospect.

Imagine if you guys land Arch

[MrDollarBills]

colts down bad.. daniel jones is their qb1

They are in a terrible position

[j4remi]

Imagine if you guys land Arch

The pattern is for the Jets to be in a good position to land the top spot, but to desperately play for wins in the last couple of weeks which push them from the top spot to 5th or worse. But I'm a slow start away from screaming for Arch to enter the draft and the Jets to tank

[Strick]

Nabers and Skattebo are back at practice. Andrew Thomas has been cleared from the PUP and is back too!

Big news on the injury front for the Giants. Burns, Carter, and Kayvon are definitely going to be a good test for Thomas to get back in the swing of things

[TerrenceClarke]

I have not watched the Giants this preseason so far or kept up with them. With out Homerisim or Hyperbole. How has Dart looked. Has he played against any first teams yet?

Looks like like that Hyperbole that reporter was talking about with Carter before the last game got quieted real quick lol.

[Strick]

I have not watched the Giants this preseason so far or kept up with them. With out Homerisim or Hyperbole. How has Dart looked. Has he played against any first teams yet?

Looks like like that Hyperbole that reporter was talking about with Carter before the last game got quieted real quick lol.

Personally I’ve thought he’s looked really good. A little bit of everything you’d want to see. Progressions, mobility, maneuvering the pocket, deep ball, etc.

He has missed some throws and they definitely seem to have simplified the offense a bit to be stuff he’s comfortable with but overall I’ve been really happy with what I’ve seen.

I don’t think he’s really played any first teams, maybe 1st team players mixed in with some 2nd team guys. He goes in right after Russ.

The OL has been pretty solid too so he’s not under duress too much which is something to consider as well. I’m interested to see him under pressure more.