Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[vvoland]

IF the warriors are so desperate to give $0 guarantees in year 2 AND keeping the TO, just let him keep the NTC.

If Kuminga gets a no trade clause why wouldn't the Warriors just keep him on the QO?

He gets the NTC on the QO, as well. I'm sure they'd prefer the 1+1, @ ~20M, with a team option. That would be the best case scenario, for the team. I don't blame them for trying to get that

[bay2hk]

Giving Kuminga a $13.8m pay raise over the QO of $7.9m seems like a great deal for JK. Warriors should give JK and his agent a deadline date of 9/1 to accept their 1+1 deal with team option and NTC waive or pull the offer all together and force JK to take the QO. Give GP2 the $13.8m instead if warriors want to keep the salary slot for a trade.

[jg77]

Giving Kuminga a $13.8m pay raise over the QO of $7.9m seems like a great deal for JK. Warriors should give JK and his agent a deadline date of 9/1 to accept their 1+1 deal with team option and NTC waive or pull the offer all together and force JK to take the QO. Give GP2 the $13.8m instead if warriors want to keep the salary slot for a trade.

I highly doubt that JK and his team would agree to that team option deal. It's likely he wouldn't even be traded and be stuck another two years.

[statsman]

It's too bad there isn't one team who values Kuminga as much as some of the sports pundits and posters here. The S&T offers so far have been almost as insulting as the Warriors' offers (1+1 or QO). None of those teams have decided to bid against themselves. Can't say I blame them.

That said, if they're seeing the outcome be Kuminga plays for the qualifying offer, there will be no guarantees for those teams that they'll have a shot at him in the next offseason. If he were truly worth the risk, some team would make a S&T offer the Warriors would accept.

The wrench in the works is Lacob's desire for a big mid-season trade.

[bay2hk]

It's too bad there isn't one team who values Kuminga as much as some of the sports pundits and posters here. The S&T offers so far have been almost as insulting as the Warriors' offers (1+1 or QO). None of those teams have decided to bid against themselves. Can't say I blame them.

That said, if they're seeing the outcome be Kuminga plays for the qualifying offer, there will be no guarantees for those teams that they'll have a shot at him in the next offseason. If he were truly worth the risk, some team would make a S&T offer the Warriors would accept.

The wrench in the works is Lacob's desire for a big mid-season trade.

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

[statsman]

It's too bad there isn't one team who values Kuminga as much as some of the sports pundits and posters here. The S&T offers so far have been almost as insulting as the Warriors' offers (1+1 or QO). None of those teams have decided to bid against themselves. Can't say I blame them.

That said, if they're seeing the outcome be Kuminga plays for the qualifying offer, there will be no guarantees for those teams that they'll have a shot at him in the next offseason. If he were truly worth the risk, some team would make a S&T offer the Warriors would accept.

The wrench in the works is Lacob's desire for a big mid-season trade.

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

That is the dumbest idea ever.

[Twinkie defense]

IF the warriors are so desperate to give $0 guarantees in year 2 AND keeping the TO, just let him keep the NTC.

If Kuminga gets a no trade clause why wouldn't the Warriors just keep him on the QO?

He gets the NTC on the QO, as well. I'm sure they'd prefer the 1+1, @ ~20M, with a team option. That would be the best case scenario, for the team. I don't blame them for trying to get that

Yes but the whole idea is they’re paying him more than double for the privilege of trading him.

[AirP.]

It's too bad there isn't one team who values Kuminga as much as some of the sports pundits and posters here. The S&T offers so far have been almost as insulting as the Warriors' offers (1+1 or QO). None of those teams have decided to bid against themselves. Can't say I blame them.

That said, if they're seeing the outcome be Kuminga plays for the qualifying offer, there will be no guarantees for those teams that they'll have a shot at him in the next offseason. If he were truly worth the risk, some team would make a S&T offer the Warriors would accept.

The wrench in the works is Lacob's desire for a big mid-season trade.

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

That is the dumbest idea ever.

If Kuminga takes the QO it's the only way GS can have a sizable expiring contract to move this next season. If money isn't an issue in the tax, spending whatever they have left on a player they have bird rights to and staying under the 2nd apron is their best move to have a sizable expiring contract to make a move with this coming season. Kuminga taking the 1+1 is the better option because it could be seen as a larger expiring contract or if a team really wants him, they'd have him for next year or they could negotiate with him, refuse his 2nd year and extend him on a longer contract.

[bay2hk]

It's too bad there isn't one team who values Kuminga as much as some of the sports pundits and posters here. The S&T offers so far have been almost as insulting as the Warriors' offers (1+1 or QO). None of those teams have decided to bid against themselves. Can't say I blame them.

That said, if they're seeing the outcome be Kuminga plays for the qualifying offer, there will be no guarantees for those teams that they'll have a shot at him in the next offseason. If he were truly worth the risk, some team would make a S&T offer the Warriors would accept.

The wrench in the works is Lacob's desire for a big mid-season trade.

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

That is the dumbest idea ever.

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

[Dubs 707]

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

That is the dumbest idea ever.

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

Its self explanatory to be honest. Breaking it down is a moot point for someone who refuses to comprehend an opposing viewpoint.

Just my two cents..

[bay2hk]

That is the dumbest idea ever.

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

Its self explanatory to be honest. Breaking it down is a moot point for someone who refuses to comprehend an opposing viewpoint.

Just my two cents..

What’s your 2 cent? JK is worth 5 years / $150m?

Jk at QO is what’s he’s worth rn.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Sign GP2 to $13.8m. Problem solved.

That is the dumbest idea ever.

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

Its a lose lose if jk is on the qo.

He loses millions, but becomes can go wherever he wants next offseason.

Team doesn't have to overpay him, but now there's really no way to improve the team without a sizeable salary ballast. What you see is what you get with this roster. You sound need to pay for great health and internal growth. I wouldn't hold my breath for either.

[bay2hk]

You all are forgetting the warriors can still s&t next offseason if JK takes the QO. Best case scenario is JK taking the QO and us keeping our cap flexibility. We don’t need another Jordan Poole like contract on our payroll.

[Crazy-Canuck]

You all are forgetting the warriors can still s&t next offseason if JK takes the QO. Best case scenario is JK taking the QO and us keeping our cap flexibility. We don’t need another Jordan Poole like contract on our payroll.

Steph, dray, and jimmy have 1, at max 2 years to win a chip.

Might as well trade everyone and rebuild if the plan is to waste another year on kuminga.

[Onus]

Giving Kuminga a $13.8m pay raise over the QO of $7.9m seems like a great deal for JK. Warriors should give JK and his agent a deadline date of 9/1 to accept their 1+1 deal with team option and NTC waive or pull the offer all together and force JK to take the QO. Give GP2 the $13.8m instead if warriors want to keep the salary slot for a trade.

I highly doubt that JK and his team would agree to that team option deal. It's likely he wouldn't even be traded and be stuck another two years.

JK wants that 2nd year because next year is going to be more of the same for JK. No teams will have real cap room and there will be no money for him.

[Onus]

That is the dumbest idea ever.

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

Its a lose lose if jk is on the qo.

He loses millions, but becomes can go wherever he wants next offseason.

Team doesn't have to overpay him, but now there's really no way to improve the team without a sizeable salary ballast. What you see is what you get with this roster. You sound need to pay for great health and internal growth. I wouldn't hold my breath for either.

He can go where ever he wants next year on the mle or tpmle. He's not going to sign the qo, no matter how attractive he says it is. He'd make in 2 years what he'd make in 1 year on the 1+1, and would be stuck on a longer term contract for the mle and likely misses out on the year when a lot of teams have actual cap space. He's going to want whatever team that he's on to pick up that 2nd year.

[whatisacenter]

only another month and a half of everybody acting like they know what JK will do.

[Dubs 707]

Explain. You’re here complaining about JK not getting paid and using the salary slot argument to **** on Warriors FO. Pick a side and stick with it. It’s a win for the warriors if JK signs the QO. We stay under the first apron and gives us a ton of flexibility during the season.

Its self explanatory to be honest. Breaking it down is a moot point for someone who refuses to comprehend an opposing viewpoint.

Just my two cents..

What’s your 2 cent? JK is worth 5 years / $150m?

Jk at QO is what’s he’s worth rn.

So, I'm at work but your under the impression that its the QO offer or 5/150?

I say go educate yourself with NBA contracts!

How'd we get moody under the 5/150
Why isn't Moody on a QO? Oh yeah, there are other contract offers that we can offer!

[Onus]

Lacob telling jk he wants him on gsw for a long time, while mdj is offering him a 1+1 is hilarious.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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