Bears 12.0

[Susan]

there was an article in the athletic about how fields basically isn't throwing the ball downfield at all in camp or during the preseason games. seems like the jets are leaning hard into Embracing The Run but also, dude is what he is at this point

Nobody is going to run the ball more than that team and if anybody cares about fantasy - Braelon Allen is the dude to draft. He's huge, fast and has excellent vision with a really talented OL.

That defense is loaded with high level talent as well, they're going to be a tough team.

[MAQ]

While im completely in a show me state with the Bears, if they truly believe the time to win is now and you value bagent, you don't trade him.

[Jeffster81]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

[jnrjr79]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

Hmm, I wouldn’t be so sure Howell is better than Bagent, but I agree this is a decent comp for expectations.

[Dresden]

Does Tyler Scott have a chance of making the team anymore? Hard to see him getting much PT here- he might be better off getting cut and trying to catch on elsewhere. He muffed the kickoff last night, but had a big gain on a swing pass and later caught a nice TD pass from Bagent. It will be tough to give up on a former 5th round pick, but Duvernay is a return man, so he'll stick- that's at least 5 WR's already. How many do teams keep?

[web123888]

Don’t care if it’s the preseason. I saw all i needed to see. With Ben Johnson as HC, Caleb Williams is the next Patrick Mahomes.

[Susan]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

Howell took 65 sacks with Washington and turned the ball over a ton - he was a 5th round project that people won't put more time or energy into.

Bagent is in the class of Aiden O'Connell, Garnder Minshew. Good QBs with high floors and presumably low ceilings. If they're trading them, they're going to a high level team that would be in a QB in a pinch to keep the season on the tracks in case the franchise guy goes down a month. But there's not a huge market for those guys - and you're dealing with Kirk Cousins being available in that market already.

[Jvaughn]

Any word on Terrell Smith? I'm assuming the worst and he's out for the year.

Think I saw it was an ACL.

Damn, that sucks. He was gonna compete for the starting spot.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

Any word on Terrell Smith? I'm assuming the worst and he's out for the year.

Think I saw it was an ACL.

Damn, that sucks. He was gonna compete for the starting spot.

Yeah, I always felt comfortable with the CB depth because Smith was there. There was a standout this preseason but his name eludes me. Hopefully that new guy can bring the same level of depth.

I’m also still hoping Frazier can make the roster. As a UTSA alum, I was excited when we drafted him.

[Dresden]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

Howell took 65 sacks with Washington and turned the ball over a ton - he was a 5th round project that people won't put more time or energy into.

Bagent is in the class of Aiden O'Connell, Garnder Minshew. Good QBs with high floors and presumably low ceilings. If they're trading them, they're going to a high level team that would be in a QB in a pinch to keep the season on the tracks in case the franchise guy goes down a month. But there's not a huge market for those guys - and you're dealing with Kirk Cousins being available in that market already.

But Cousins has an onerous contract he's going to drag along with him.

[Dresden]

Any word on Terrell Smith? I'm assuming the worst and he's out for the year.

Think I saw it was an ACL.

Damn, that sucks. He was gonna compete for the starting spot.

There hasn't been a definite report on the nature of the injury yet. We should know by tomorrow. Let's hope it's just a sprain.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Does Tyler Scott have a chance of making the team anymore? Hard to see him getting much PT here- he might be better off getting cut and trying to catch on elsewhere. He muffed the kickoff last night, but had a big gain on a swing pass and later caught a nice TD pass from Bagent. It will be tough to give up on a former 5th round pick, but Duvernay is a return man, so he'll stick- that's at least 5 WR's already. How many do teams keep?

Usually 5-7 on roster pending what is needed on the 53 man, but only play 3-4 in rotation. I thought Scott played decently especially in 2nd-string minutes, he isn't a starter by any means but good depth reciever. As it stands Moore, Odunze, Burden are the clear 3 guys making it and likely making the rotation. Judging by rotation last night Zaccheaus is in their top 4. The next two guys in the rotation that played were Scott and Alexander.

It could change still in the final weeks of camp but that would likely be the "6" rotation that I see but Duvernay's return game puts him in contention and argument for them to take 7. I personally take Duvernay over Alexander but like the other 5 still above the rest.

[Susan]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

Howell took 65 sacks with Washington and turned the ball over a ton - he was a 5th round project that people won't put more time or energy into.

Bagent is in the class of Aiden O'Connell, Garnder Minshew. Good QBs with high floors and presumably low ceilings. If they're trading them, they're going to a high level team that would be in a QB in a pinch to keep the season on the tracks in case the franchise guy goes down a month. But there's not a huge market for those guys - and you're dealing with Kirk Cousins being available in that market already.

But Cousins has an onerous contract he's going to drag along with him.

Atlanta offers to pay for part of this years salary and Atlanta's cap is responsible for his bonus - if a team trades for him they can cut him with no longterm negative cap implications. To them, it can be a one year deal and they're not on the hook for anything next year with him.

[dice]

2nd round pick you gotta do it. Kudos to Poles he crushed it with Bagent.

garoppolo was a 2nd rounder who crushed it in 2 starts in his 3rd season. pats got a 2nd for him

undrafted bagent played like a borderline starter in 4 starts as a rookie

SI has bagent as a bottom of the barrel 2nd stringer:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2025-ranking-nfl-backup-quarterbacks

[dice]

Sam Howell, who I believe is a better QB than Bagent, was traded along with a 7th (from SEA) to Minn for a 5th. That is the kind of deal I would expect for Bagent.

Hmm, I wouldn’t be so sure Howell is better than Bagent, but I agree this is a decent comp for expectations.

howell was worse as a 2nd year new starter than bagent was as a rookie

[dice]

So you're going to give up a 2nd rounder for someone who has to come in and learn the offense, spend the season auditioning and building chemistry, and then could possibly sign with someone else after the season? I dunno....

bagent is gonna be an RFA, so you'd control his rights for at least one more year after this one

the only right is to match another team's offer. he's getting a new deal after this season unless bears give him a QO of over 5 mil for another season

[Dresden]

Does Tyler Scott have a chance of making the team anymore? Hard to see him getting much PT here- he might be better off getting cut and trying to catch on elsewhere. He muffed the kickoff last night, but had a big gain on a swing pass and later caught a nice TD pass from Bagent. It will be tough to give up on a former 5th round pick, but Duvernay is a return man, so he'll stick- that's at least 5 WR's already. How many do teams keep?

Usually 5-7 on roster pending what is needed on the 53 man, but only play 3-4 in rotation. I thought Scott played decently especially in 2nd-string minutes, he isn't a starter by any means but good depth reciever. As it stands Moore, Odunze, Burden are the clear 3 guys making it and likely making the rotation. Judging by rotation last night Zaccheaus is in their top 4. The next two guys in the rotation that played were Scott and Alexander.

It could change still in the final weeks of camp but that would likely be the "6" rotation that I see but Duvernay's return game puts him in contention and argument for them to take 7. I personally take Duvernay over Alexander but like the other 5 still above the rest.

thanks, that makes sense.

[nomorezorro]

bagent is gonna be an RFA, so you'd control his rights for at least one more year after this one

the only right is to match another team's offer

a first round tender is gonna be less than $8 million; i assume anyone willing to trade for him as a potential starter would happily tender him at that figure

[Betta Bulleavit]

Does Tyler Scott have a chance of making the team anymore? Hard to see him getting much PT here- he might be better off getting cut and trying to catch on elsewhere. He muffed the kickoff last night, but had a big gain on a swing pass and later caught a nice TD pass from Bagent. It will be tough to give up on a former 5th round pick, but Duvernay is a return man, so he'll stick- that's at least 5 WR's already. How many do teams keep?

Usually 5-7 on roster pending what is needed on the 53 man, but only play 3-4 in rotation. I thought Scott played decently especially in 2nd-string minutes, he isn't a starter by any means but good depth reciever. As it stands Moore, Odunze, Burden are the clear 3 guys making it and likely making the rotation. Judging by rotation last night Zaccheaus is in their top 4. The next two guys in the rotation that played were Scott and Alexander.

It could change still in the final weeks of camp but that would likely be the "6" rotation that I see but Duvernay's return game puts him in contention and argument for them to take 7. I personally take Duvernay over Alexander but like the other 5 still above the rest.

I think Zaccheaus makes it either way as he was singed as more of a return guy (primarily). The fact that he is proving himself as a viable receiving option makes him a virtual lock in my opinion.

[dice]

bagent is gonna be an RFA, so you'd control his rights for at least one more year after this one

the only right is to match another team's offer

a first round tender is gonna be less than $8 million; i assume anyone willing to trade for him as a potential starter would happily tender him at that figure

the bears offer the tender. if they tender over 5 mil (requiring a 2nd rounder from a team "stealing" him) it is unlikely another team would be interested. plus only a handful of backups make that kind of money

bears will likely offer the 3+ mil tender, allowing them to match any offer. but they would not match a significantly larger deal