ImageImageImageImageImage

Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27

Moderators: HiJiNX, 7 Footer, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, Morris_Shatford, lebron stopper

User avatar
Raps in 4
RealGM
Posts: 67,302
And1: 62,239
Joined: Nov 01, 2008
Location: Toronto
 

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#661 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:13 am

As long as Dan and the rest of the scouting department aren't going anywhere either, I'm fine with this.
Yeezus_
RealGM
Posts: 11,029
And1: 14,097
Joined: Feb 18, 2009
Location: Toronto
     

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#662 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:06 am

All the GMs of each team reporting into Keith is nasty work. He’s as incompetent as it gets.
Yeezy SZN approaching
User avatar
Tha Cynic
RealGM
Posts: 27,029
And1: 29,176
Joined: Jan 03, 2006
Location: Starin' at the world through my rearview
     

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#663 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:35 am

What is with this Kawhi Leonard angle that keeps getting mentioned? Bobby is ultimately who I wanted running this team as I have zero confidence Rogers would hire someone better. But, Bobby having a preexisting relationship with the Spurs GM isn’t exactly a selling point for why he should have the ultimate baseball decisions for the team going forward. Are we hoping he just has the same relationship with every other GM in the league or that we’ll somehow get Wemby?

The Raptors won a championship because they built a deep enough team where they could trade a bunch of assets for Kawhi and still have probably the deepest team in the league after the trade. This was with no major free agent signings. We want to have whoever built that team. Let’s hope Bobby can carry that as it looks like this team was on their way to building that way again before Masai was fired.
Kobe Bryant:You asked for my hustle - I gave you my heart, because it came with so much more."~Kobe #MambaOut
User avatar
NinjaBro
RealGM
Posts: 27,947
And1: 43,686
Joined: Aug 21, 2014
Location: Shamblesland
 

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#664 » by NinjaBro » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:36 am

Crisis averted, no Casey so I'm good. Fantastic news!
User avatar
LoveMyRaps
RealGM
Posts: 29,986
And1: 50,578
Joined: Jun 10, 2013
       

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#665 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:47 am

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=PSy3Ch7pvG4ybe2MpvWFcw

Ha! They thought criticizing the guy who got fired would land them the job and win over Pelley. Idiots!
In Masai We Trust :meditate:
Image
User avatar
Mikistan
RealGM
Posts: 25,944
And1: 39,019
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Location: Shamblesland
   

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#666 » by Mikistan » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:52 am

That candidate should say 8 hail Marys to atone for his sins against Saint Masai
nestea
Analyst
Posts: 3,058
And1: 2,071
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
         

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to 

Post#667 » by nestea » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:01 am

Mr Funk wrote:Hopefully Tolzman will be promoted to GM.

Bobby job to announce that
Im an Optomist, not an optometrist!
anotherhomer
Head Coach
Posts: 6,172
And1: 3,659
Joined: Jun 23, 2008

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#668 » by anotherhomer » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:17 am

it seems like KP from Pacers was the preferred choice but prolly came down to money
another thing was that the president job required someone good in marketing and sales, which isn't Bobby's strength

Ujiri was good at selling excitement for the team
User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 7,162
And1: 4,196
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#669 » by Thaddy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:20 am

Do we have notes on who Bob liked and didn't like? I feel like he's not a big RJ fan since he's data driven. I also think he recognizes stretch big importance and he might move off Poeltl before anyone other than RJ.
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 26,965
And1: 11,510
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job 

Post#670 » by wco81 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:46 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
720 wrote:
If we wanna be a mediocre treadmill team then yes we should have kept Siakam, Fred and traded Barnes.


Raptors avoided giving max extensions to Siakam, OG and a contract over $25 million a year to FVV.

Yet for 2025-26 season, they're over the 1st apron at $197 million.

The big extensions to Barnes and IQ haven't prevented the team from losing more games since Siakam, FVV and OG. Raptors were 41-41 in 2022-23.

So winning only 30 games is good for draft lottery but it's a very expensive roster relative to results.

This season they may have a chance to get into the top 8 since there have been key injuries in the EC

Now do we assume that Masai drove most of these moves the last 3-4 years? He had the final say but do we know for a fact if Webster and others were completely on board or maybe even pushed for some of the moves and Masai approved it?


We are not over the 1st apron - point blank period

Wherever you got that from is mistaken.
Unlikely incentives do count towards the apron, but not the luxury tax, and even with the unlikely incentives becoming fruitful, we still wouldn't be a 1st apron team


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/apron/_/year/2025
User avatar
CPT
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 14,542
And1: 3,068
Joined: Jan 21, 2002
Location: Osaka/Seoul/Toronto
         

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#671 » by CPT » Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:49 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=PSy3Ch7pvG4ybe2MpvWFcw

Ha! They thought criticizing the guy who got fired would land them the job and win over Pelley. Idiots!


This was 100% Casey :lol:
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#672 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:43 am

HiJiNX wrote:
Lord_Zedd wrote:Hiring Bobby just makes sense with the incompetence and mess that Pelley created within this organization.

Anyone else other than Bobby would had signalled that this organization has no idea what they're doing.

I mean, it still kind of signals that in my opinion.


If by organization you mean Keith Pelley/MLSE, then yes.

If by organization you mean the Raptors, then no.

My dream is that Larry Tannenbaum gets the Raptors and Rogers gets the Leafs.
I believe in Masai.
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // Bobby Promoted to President update pg. 27 

Post#673 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:28 pm

Reeko wrote:Lol looks like they realized that anyone who might be suitable for the job didn't want it. They probably made a hard run at Pritchard and it failed. So now they've just decided to go the Leafs route of GM with no President.


Don’t get it twisted - that was always the plan.
I believe in Masai.
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // Bobby Promoted to President update pg. 27 

Post#674 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:31 pm

Raptors Realtor wrote:So either it was just a cost cutting decision to fire Masai, or they didn't find anyone on his level who could realistically fill his shoes... Either way I have little faith in Ed and Pelley leading the ship going forward.


The silver lining is that the Raptors are being run just about exactly the way they were before.
I believe in Masai.
User avatar
OakleyDokely
RealGM
Posts: 36,051
And1: 68,522
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: 416
 

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job 

Post#675 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:51 pm

wco81 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Raptors avoided giving max extensions to Siakam, OG and a contract over $25 million a year to FVV.

Yet for 2025-26 season, they're over the 1st apron at $197 million.

The big extensions to Barnes and IQ haven't prevented the team from losing more games since Siakam, FVV and OG. Raptors were 41-41 in 2022-23.

So winning only 30 games is good for draft lottery but it's a very expensive roster relative to results.

This season they may have a chance to get into the top 8 since there have been key injuries in the EC

Now do we assume that Masai drove most of these moves the last 3-4 years? He had the final say but do we know for a fact if Webster and others were completely on board or maybe even pushed for some of the moves and Masai approved it?


We are not over the 1st apron - point blank period

Wherever you got that from is mistaken.
Unlikely incentives do count towards the apron, but not the luxury tax, and even with the unlikely incentives becoming fruitful, we still wouldn't be a 1st apron team


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/apron/_/year/2025


How will they ever shed 1M over the course of the season. Seems impossible.
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 

Post#676 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:06 pm

ItsDanger wrote:He's basically operating as the President without the title. Unless you're actively involved in business side of the operations, there's little difference. He has the control over team decisions and that's what matters in the end.


Hmmm. What about his title suggests that he is not actively involved in the business side of the operation?
I believe in Masai.
TheGeneral99
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,915
And1: 6,533
Joined: Mar 11, 2023
   

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#677 » by TheGeneral99 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:08 pm

I'm happy with this...takes away the sting from firing Masai, at least the rest of the staff remain in tact and there is continuity. Bobby has been with Masai since day 1 in 2013 and a critical part of the decision-making.
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 

Post#678 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:09 pm

causal_fan wrote:If Rogers let Jays President Mark Shapiro go (expiring contract like leafs Shanahan), then we get the big picture - eliminating the Presidents and saving big bucks - does not portend well but we will see.


At least this would be consistent. Then again it’s Rogers so I’m not holding my breath. Then again if it’s about saving money at the expense of people, it’s plausible. Don’t even know at this point. All I know is that Rogers was horrible to my family as a business and I have cut ties with every service they provide where possible.
I believe in Masai.
User avatar
WuTang_CMB
RealGM
Posts: 41,714
And1: 52,260
Joined: Sep 26, 2017
   

Re: Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27 

Post#679 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:09 pm

For Casey to reach this far in the process screams incompetency. Lol. Ed was likely a fan and got his minion pelley to interview him. Eversley another guy who's been useless in the NBA - both of them shouldn't have been interviewed.

Anyways, the right call was made. Give the torch to Bobby and let him ride and see where we are in 12 months. The East is wide open - there's no reason why we can't be in the playoffs next season. This FO has to be forward thinking, ahead of the curve. Can Bobby be that guy? We shall see.
User avatar
Merit
General Manager
Posts: 8,328
And1: 3,736
Joined: Jul 23, 2004
Location: we're movin' on up!
         

Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 

Post#680 » by Merit » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:10 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:Don’t need both a GM and a president.
What did Masai do all day?


Don’t need a CEO but only upper management…

Not every business can be run as a co-op.
I believe in Masai.

Return to Toronto Raptors