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2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1061 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:46 pm

With the current depth chart situated as it is we should probably be looking to sign a PF with our last two way contract. Currently have C Vlad Goldin and SG/SF Myron Gardner on the other two.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1062 » by BBallFreak » Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:38 pm

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The Heat front office has significantly declined. Even if this is a one year deal, there are so many other questionable decisions this team has made that I see treadmilling for yet another season. First round playoff exits year after year are not a successful season. Team’s either grow and get better, or they need to be dismantled. A treadmill team is just low energy and difficult to watch.

We were in the finals like two years ago. And we just stole Norm Powell for free without compromising our future.

WTF?

You guys really don't pay attention to the rest of the league, do you?


Worst playoff performance in history and you are personally attacking people for not paying attention? What games are you watching? Delete your post bro, you been under a rock for 2 years.

I wasn't personally attacking you, but now I see no need to hold back.

Go root for the God damned Kings, you front runner. We're in a transition phase. This is us rebuilding! We don't strip it down but we'll be back and stronger, soon. If you don't want to believe that, that's your choice, but we've been doing this for decades. Sorry, but I'll take this front office over most in the league...
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1063 » by MadD23 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:37 pm

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MadD23 wrote:First you question Wiggins commitment and motivation. He sdoes the opposite and shows commitment and motivation, now you say it's not a big deal and make fun of it. Zero objectivity.


Quite frankly it’s embarrassing that the franchise has to go on social media to try and repair the image of a ten-year veteran.


How do you think a multimillion (worth billions) corporation is managed? Do you really think the coaches, Riley or the Arisons are going to the CMO to order him/her to contact the social media management team and tell them we need you to post this about Wiggins to trick the twitter haters and message board wanna be GM's who represent less than 1% of our global fanbase? Sure dude. Trust me, you are not that important.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1064 » by unowen85 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:03 am

MadD23 wrote:
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MadD23 wrote:First you question Wiggins commitment and motivation. He sdoes the opposite and shows commitment and motivation, now you say it's not a big deal and make fun of it. Zero objectivity.


Quite frankly it’s embarrassing that the franchise has to go on social media to try and repair the image of a ten-year veteran.


How do you think a multimillion (worth billions) corporation is managed? Do you really think the coaches, Riley or the Arisons are going to the CMO to order him/her to contact the social media management team and tell them we need you to post this about Wiggins to trick the twitter haters and message board wanna be GM's who represent less than 1% of our global fanbase? Sure dude. Trust me, you are not that important.


Damn dude. I’m gonna unalive myself now. :(

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1065 » by SerialChiller » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:23 am

I don't mind Smith but I want another big, hopefully we eventually get one capable of playing some minutes in a pinch at least down the line for the last spot.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1066 » by twix2500 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:33 am

SerialChiller wrote:I don't mind Smith but I want another big, hopefully we eventually get one capable of playing some minutes in a pinch at least down the line for the last spot.
Could be a 2 way center become available when teams make their cuts

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1067 » by gom » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:10 am

SerialChiller wrote:I don't mind Smith but I want another big, hopefully we eventually get one capable of playing some minutes in a pinch at least down the line for the last spot.


I know that a lot of you are negative about Goldin, but from what I saw in the college games for FAU and a couple Michigan games, he was pretty solid in the front court. Last season, he improved his free throw percentage. It's respectable enough now, and he's a strong young man, born in 2001.

Also, I love all this intensity. We're still over a month away from preseason and you guys are amped up, shouldering each other, and sharpening the knives.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1068 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:28 am

unowen85 wrote:
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unowen85 wrote:
Quite frankly it’s embarrassing that the franchise has to go on social media to try and repair the image of a ten-year veteran.


How do you think a multimillion (worth billions) corporation is managed? Do you really think the coaches, Riley or the Arisons are going to the CMO to order him/her to contact the social media management team and tell them we need you to post this about Wiggins to trick the twitter haters and message board wanna be GM's who represent less than 1% of our global fanbase? Sure dude. Trust me, you are not that important.


Damn dude. I’m gonna unalive myself now. :(

Number one Bam fan, signing out.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1069 » by twix2500 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:54 am

gom wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:I don't mind Smith but I want another big, hopefully we eventually get one capable of playing some minutes in a pinch at least down the line for the last spot.


I know that a lot of you are negative about Goldin, but from what I saw in the college games for FAU and a couple Michigan games, he was pretty solid in the front court. Last season, he improved his free throw percentage. It's respectable enough now, and he's a strong young man, born in 2001.

Also, I love all this intensity. We're still over a month away from preseason and you guys are amped up, shouldering each other, and sharpening the knives.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1070 » by HeatFanLifer » Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:15 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
unowen85 wrote:
MadD23 wrote:
How do you think a multimillion (worth billions) corporation is managed? Do you really think the coaches, Riley or the Arisons are going to the CMO to order him/her to contact the social media management team and tell them we need you to post this about Wiggins to trick the twitter haters and message board wanna be GM's who represent less than 1% of our global fanbase? Sure dude. Trust me, you are not that important.


Damn dude. I’m gonna unalive myself now. :(

Number one Bam fan, signing out.


Reported.



No no don’t unalive yourself and anyone else don’t either, first of all. Very important anyone dealing with **** understands there is love out there, even if it’s just love for yourself.

Secondly, the easiest explanation about these positive social media reports is: job justification. Allow me to explain. You have people in the Heat marketing department that don’t have **** to do on a team this garbage, what is the easiest thing you can do in marketing to boost interest in the team? Pump up a player. Not a conspiracy, not a top down directive, just some people in marketing. Am I wrong? Perhaps. But who cares?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1071 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:31 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:the easiest explanation about these positive social media reports is: job justification. Allow me to explain. You have people in the Heat marketing department that don’t have **** to do on a team this garbage, what is the easiest thing you can do in marketing to boost interest in the team? Pump up a player. Not a conspiracy, not a top down directive, just some people in marketing. Am I wrong? Perhaps. But who cares?

This report came from LEIF, not somebody on the team’s payroll.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1072 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:09 pm

twix2500 wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:I don't mind Smith but I want another big, hopefully we eventually get one capable of playing some minutes in a pinch at least down the line for the last spot.
Could be a 2 way center become available when teams make their cuts

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We have Vlad Goldin already. Maybe looking for a 6’10 tweener type that can play both 4/5
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1073 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:00 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1074 » by Shewasfly » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:29 pm

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Genuinely curious to see if Spo goes with the Davion-Herro backcourt, or the Herro-Powell backcourt.

I suspect it'll be the latter since Wiggins will still be here :nonono:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1075 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:52 pm

With his defense locked… wonder how much Davion is working on elevating his impact on the offensive side this summer?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1076 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:00 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1077 » by DayofMourning » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:07 pm

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Lol. So silly. Each year is its own adventure. See whats available and go to work to improve the team with the available options.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1078 » by vagelis » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:17 pm

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Genuinely curious to see if Spo goes with the Davion-Herro backcourt, or the Herro-Powell backcourt.

I suspect it'll be the latter since Wiggins will still be here :nonono:


I do not believe that Mitchel is a starting pg.
He is a very good reserve as a pg though.

Something that noone mentions is that Heat had a very good run before the playoffs with Mitchel coming from the bench.

When Mitchel became the starting pg against Cavs, the results were bad in offense and defense.

Norman Powel is a better player and he is taller than Mitchel
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1079 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:21 pm

Davion is a great energy bench player. I would leave him in that role to truly optimize him. We can start off with Herro and Powell with Jovic in the point PF Toni Kukoc role. Have Davion come off the bench and keep Kelel Ware engaged.

C Bam Adebayo 6'9 C Kelel Ware 7'1 (C Vlad Goldin 7'0)

PF Nikola Jovic 6'11(Point Forward) PF Keshad Johnson 6'6

SF Andrew Wiggins SF/PF Jaime Jaquez Jr SF/PF Simone Fonechccio

SG Norman Powell 6'3 SG Pelle Larrson (SG/SF Myron Gardner 6'6)

PG/SG Tyler Herro 6'5 PG Davion Mitchell 6'2 PG/SG Dru Smith 6'3 PG Kasparas Jakucionis 6'5 (PG Terry Rozier 6'1)


* Bolded is primary rotation 8. Spo will mix in 10 during the long season so Jaquez Jr and Fontechccio will be battling for those minutes and will most likely be run out as small ball 4's. Keshad on the outside looking in as a deeper bench guy.

3 man staggered big rotation with Bam, Jovic, and Ware. You have Ware coming in off the bench with a pure PG in Davion Mitchell to control pace and to feed him in the low block. With the Ware and Bam front court combo you can run a spread lineup of SF Powell SG Herro and PG Mitchell. You have Ware and Bam protecting the inside of the paint. On offense the floor is spread with Powell and Herro on the wings and Mitchell pushing pace. Larrson will be used as primary wing defender off the bench when Wiggins sits and could also fit in with Powell and Herro as he's a decent creator himself who likes to go downhill.

Looking into future deals the lineup above could certainly squeeze in a DeRozan addition as the most likely add using Rozier's contract.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#1080 » by Shewasfly » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:35 pm

vagelis wrote:
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Genuinely curious to see if Spo goes with the Davion-Herro backcourt, or the Herro-Powell backcourt.

I suspect it'll be the latter since Wiggins will still be here :nonono:


I do not believe that Mitchel is a starting pg.
He is a very good reserve as a pg though.

Something that noone mentions is that Heat had a very good run before the playoffs with Mitchel coming from the bench.

When Mitchel became the starting pg against Cavs, the results were bad in offense and defense.

Norman Powel is a better player and he is taller than Mitchel

Yes I agree, Mitchell is not a starting caliber PG. But we could have gotten away with it and slid Tyler back to his most natural position at SG, if we didn't have to worry about giving Wiggins the starting SF role. With Davion and Herro in the backcourt, you can play Jovi at SF and then Bam and Ware to fill out the front court. That is a very big lineup and balanced for offense and defense. Then you get to keep Powell in imo his most natural role, which is as a spark plug off the bench and a closer. I think he and Larsson could do damage in a second unit.

But as long as we have Wiggins, it'll be Herro-Powell-Wiggins-Bam-Ware and we'll have to live with the results. Hopefully Jovic and Larsson still get a ton of time off the bench, especially Jovic who should be looking to lead that bench unit and compete for 6th man this year.
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