Trades and Transactions 2025 V

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Kolek would drop 40 in that Jockitchbitus game

Kolek wouldn't get playing time because he can't defend. What is the world here? Kolek's upside is mini-Herro. But who realistically is going to allow him to get there? The Knicks? No. The Knicks are trying to win, not "be pretty good and develop young talent". Kolek gets dumped for Shamet or Brogdon or Simmons or ....

[spree2kawhi]

Hart, Mitch, Dadiet and Kolek for Bam. Who says no? (Heat maybe?)

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/new-york-knicks/news/knicks-urged-unite-160-million-5-time-all-defensive-center-jalen-brunson-trade/584124a86aebb8d61866adbc

"I think Bam would be a fantastic fit with the Knicks."

Adebayo's potential basketball fit with New York is undeniable, but the franchise' contractual obligations could muddy discussions regarding a trade with Miami. Even still, a deal is possible.

If the Heat were to conduct talks with the Knicks on a blockbuster Adebayo move, New York would be able to ship out a package consisting of two-way wing Josh Hart, center Mitchell Robinson, and a pair of interesting incoming sophomores Pacôme Dadiet and Tyler Kolek along with draft capital.

Sure, it's a long shot, but the possibility of pairing Towns and Adebayo to create one of the most dominant and versatile frontcourt pairings in the league could interest a team desperate to take the next step and reach the NBA Finals for the first time since 1999.

Heat say no easily.

And that’s just such bad reporting. I wouldn’t even call it that.

[BKlutch]

Hart, Mitch, Dadiet and Kolek for Bam. Who says no? (Heat maybe?)

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/new-york-knicks/news/knicks-urged-unite-160-million-5-time-all-defensive-center-jalen-brunson-trade/584124a86aebb8d61866adbc

Heat say no easily.

And that’s just such bad reporting. I wouldn’t even call it that.

The SportingNews now is just a name, nothing like what it was before it was gutted.

[WaltFrazier]

Heat say no easily.

And that’s just such bad reporting. I wouldn’t even call it that.

The SportingNews now is just a name, nothing like what it was before it was gutted.

Not the bible of baseball anymore. Sad, I grew up reading it and especially Sports Illustrated which has also become a shell of itself.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

And that’s just such bad reporting. I wouldn’t even call it that.

The SportingNews now is just a name, nothing like what it was before it was gutted.

Not the bible of baseball anymore. Sad, I grew up reading it and especially Sports Illustrated which has also become a shell of itself.

I agree. Today it's nothing but clickbait articles.

[Jeffrey]

And that’s just such bad reporting. I wouldn’t even call it that.

The SportingNews now is just a name, nothing like what it was before it was gutted.

Not the bible of baseball anymore. Sad, I grew up reading it and especially Sports Illustrated which has also become a shell of itself.

Too lazy for me to research but did SI and Sporting News acquired by Private Equity?

[8516knicks]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

[RHODEY]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

The Lakers? The league always gifts them superstars.

[JayTWill]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

The majority of the 27 other teams that either have better young players or better picks than the Knicks or both to offer to the Bucks?

[RHODEY]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

The Lakers? The league always gifts them superstars.

Dont see how it happens...Lebron aint going to Milwaukee and outside of him what contracts can they trade?

[RHODEY]

No Giannis yet? What's taking so long???

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

The majority of the 27 other teams that either have better young players or better picks than the Knicks or both to offer to the Bucks?

The majority of those teams wont be a contender after trading those better contracts or picks....Giannis wont settle for just being "competitive"...nor will he have patience for a rebuild.

[JayTWill]

Cant get him until the end of Jan I think. Thats good, it gives Milwaukee time to rack up losses...and force Giannis to make a move. Rockets and Spurs are out of the running IMO...that leaves you know who.

The majority of the 27 other teams that either have better young players or better picks than the Knicks or both to offer to the Bucks?

The majority of those teams wont be a contender after trading those better contracts or picks....Giannis wont settle for just being "competitive"...nor will he have patience for a rebuild.

I don't think the Bucks have to exclude any teams but just looking at the top 8 teams in the east outside of the Bucks all of them have better assets to trade than the Knicks and would be considered contenders with the addition of Giannis outside of the Pacers and Celtics who may have to wait a year until their star returns.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.
If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.

Even teams like the Sixers or Nets have better packages to offer and could possibly build a contender around Giannis in a year or so.

[RHODEY]

The majority of the 27 other teams that either have better young players or better picks than the Knicks or both to offer to the Bucks?

The majority of those teams wont be a contender after trading those better contracts or picks....Giannis wont settle for just being "competitive"...nor will he have patience for a rebuild.

I don't think the Bucks have to exclude any teams but just looking at the top 8 teams in the east outside of the Bucks all of them have better assets to trade than the Knicks and would be considered contenders with the addition of Giannis outside of the Pacers and Celtics who may have to wait a year until their star returns.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.
If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.

Even teams like the Sixers or Nets have better packages to offer and could possibly build a contender around Giannis in a year or so.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
The Cavaliers are currently in the second apron of the salary cap, which significantly restricts their ability to take on large salaries in trades. If the trade were to somehow happen, the Cavaliers would need to shed salary to get under the second apron, likely involving players like Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen.

A potential trade would likely center around Evan Mobley, but the Bucks would also want additional salary and potentially draft picks, which the Cavaliers lack. And Finally ...does Giannis prefer playing in CLevend versus NYC? I highly doubt it.


If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
Trading Jaylen Brown alone wouldn't be enough to match salaries, theyd likely have to toss in Prithcard. So maybe..,but he's no spring chicken...so why would he want to waste another year and wait for a Tatum....who is no shoe in to be what he was when he ccome back?


If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
Same as with the Celts only I doubt Giannis would want to play there.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.

A team that’s already bottom of the league in spacing adding a player notorious for being best built around by floor spacing for maximum efficiency and to negate box stuffing in the playoffs. I cant see it. Ok they have Bane now but still....
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If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
Harris? But even still I dont thing Gianis fits their timeline and I doubt he'd want to play in Detroit.

If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.
This iMO is the biggest threat....but I still think we'd get the nod.

[JayTWill]

The majority of those teams wont be a contender after trading those better contracts or picks....Giannis wont settle for just being "competitive"...nor will he have patience for a rebuild.

I don't think the Bucks have to exclude any teams but just looking at the top 8 teams in the east outside of the Bucks all of them have better assets to trade than the Knicks and would be considered contenders with the addition of Giannis outside of the Pacers and Celtics who may have to wait a year until their star returns.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.
If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.

Even teams like the Sixers or Nets have better packages to offer and could possibly build a contender around Giannis in a year or so.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
The Cavaliers are currently in the second apron of the salary cap, which significantly restricts their ability to take on large salaries in trades. If the trade were to somehow happen, the Cavaliers would need to shed salary to get under the second apron, likely involving players like Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen.

A potential trade would likely center around Evan Mobley, but the Bucks would also want additional salary and potentially draft picks, which the Cavaliers lack. And Finally ...does Giannis prefer playing in CLevend versus NYC? I highly doubt it.


If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
Trading Jaylen Brown alone wouldn't be enough to match salaries, theyd likely have to toss in Prithcard. So maybe..,but he's no spring chicken...so why would he want to waste another year and wait for a Tatum....who is no shoe in to be what he was when he ccome back?


If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
Same as with the Celts only I doubt Giannis would want to play there.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.

A team that’s already bottom of the league in spacing adding a player notorious for being best built around by floor spacing for maximum efficiency and to negate box stuffing in the playoffs. I cant see it. Ok they have Bane now but still....
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If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
Harris? But even still I dont thing Gianis fits their timeline and I doubt he'd want to play in Detroit.

If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.
This iMO is the biggest threat....but I still think we'd get the nod.

You said they wouldn't be contenders after trading for Giannis. It's not difficult to turn a team into a contender by adding a top 5 player to the team. The only way I see Giannis in a Knicks uniform is if the Knicks offer Brunson+ or Giannis absolutely forces his way here. There are plenty of other better packages than what the Knicks would offer and that was just looking at the east.

[rajajackal]

look..in terms of contracts..as a big mitch fan, we could package mitch and bridges for bam mid year. KAT/bam/og would be a very interesting frontcourt. it's like having everything you miss about julius - less range as a scorer, but tough and solid and actually a great defender. at that point, i mean, who needs mikal? you have og. phew. very much worth considering IF the heat were ever shopping bam. that guy's a knick if i ever saw one

not happening tho

[Wildcat]

look..in terms of contracts..as a big mitch fan, we could package mitch and bridges for bam mid year. KAT/bam/og would be a very interesting frontcourt. it's like having everything you miss about julius - less range as a scorer, but tough and solid and actually a great defender. at that point, i mean, who needs mikal? you have og. phew. very much worth considering IF the heat were ever shopping bam. that guy's a knick if i ever saw one

not happening tho

Sounds like Randle's opposite outside of toughness. But this team misses (and I) in regards to Randle is the 2nd ball handler and gravity.

For me, I wouldn't do a 2 for 1 deal. Bridges and BAM straight up.

[RHODEY]

I don't think the Bucks have to exclude any teams but just looking at the top 8 teams in the east outside of the Bucks all of them have better assets to trade than the Knicks and would be considered contenders with the addition of Giannis outside of the Pacers and Celtics who may have to wait a year until their star returns.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.
If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.

Even teams like the Sixers or Nets have better packages to offer and could possibly build a contender around Giannis in a year or so.

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
The Cavaliers are currently in the second apron of the salary cap, which significantly restricts their ability to take on large salaries in trades. If the trade were to somehow happen, the Cavaliers would need to shed salary to get under the second apron, likely involving players like Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen.

A potential trade would likely center around Evan Mobley, but the Bucks would also want additional salary and potentially draft picks, which the Cavaliers lack. And Finally ...does Giannis prefer playing in CLevend versus NYC? I highly doubt it.


If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
Trading Jaylen Brown alone wouldn't be enough to match salaries, theyd likely have to toss in Prithcard. So maybe..,but he's no spring chicken...so why would he want to waste another year and wait for a Tatum....who is no shoe in to be what he was when he ccome back?


If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
Same as with the Celts only I doubt Giannis would want to play there.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.

A team that’s already bottom of the league in spacing adding a player notorious for being best built around by floor spacing for maximum efficiency and to negate box stuffing in the playoffs. I cant see it. Ok they have Bane now but still....
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If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
Harris? But even still I dont thing Gianis fits their timeline and I doubt he'd want to play in Detroit.

If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.
This iMO is the biggest threat....but I still think we'd get the nod.

You said they wouldn't be contenders after trading for Giannis.

Who's they?

It's not difficult to turn a team into a contender by adding a top 5 player to the team. The only way I see Giannis in a Knicks uniform is if the Knicks offer Brunson+ or Giannis absolutely forces his way here. There are plenty of other better packages than what the Knicks would offer and that was just looking at the east.

Depends on what you're adding to . Lakers added Luka last season, were they a contender? Building a true contender takes time. As far as better packages , teams are limited by the cap and/or the situation Gianis would be going into. Gianis doesnt want to wait at his age imo. No other team has a better combination of desired destination, contender status, and contract cap flexibility than us imo. If there is another team that does ..then who is it?

[JayTWill]

If Cleveland swapped (Garland and Allen/Hunter and a future unprotected pick) or even Mobley or Mitchell straight up they are considered to be contenders. (Edit - they may have issues trading for him since they are over the 2nd apron)
The Cavaliers are currently in the second apron of the salary cap, which significantly restricts their ability to take on large salaries in trades. If the trade were to somehow happen, the Cavaliers would need to shed salary to get under the second apron, likely involving players like Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen.

A potential trade would likely center around Evan Mobley, but the Bucks would also want additional salary and potentially draft picks, which the Cavaliers lack. And Finally ...does Giannis prefer playing in CLevend versus NYC? I highly doubt it.


If Boston swaps Brown plus future unprotected pick(s) for Giannis they are considered to be contenders when Tatum returns.
Trading Jaylen Brown alone wouldn't be enough to match salaries, theyd likely have to toss in Prithcard. So maybe..,but he's no spring chicken...so why would he want to waste another year and wait for a Tatum....who is no shoe in to be what he was when he ccome back?


If Indiana swaps Siakam plus some young players + future unprotected picks they are considered to be contenders when Haliburton returns.
Same as with the Celts only I doubt Giannis would want to play there.
If Orlando swaps Banchero or Wagner + other young players they are contenders.

A team that’s already bottom of the league in spacing adding a player notorious for being best built around by floor spacing for maximum efficiency and to negate box stuffing in the playoffs. I cant see it. Ok they have Bane now but still....
.
If Detroit swaps Harris + young players + picks for Giannis they contenders.
Harris? But even still I dont thing Gianis fits their timeline and I doubt he'd want to play in Detroit.

If Atlanta swaps Jalen Johnson + other young players + other picks one which includes the better of the 27' Bucks or Pelicans pick they are considered to be contenders.
This iMO is the biggest threat....but I still think we'd get the nod.

You said they wouldn't be contenders after trading for Giannis.

Who's they?

It's not difficult to turn a team into a contender by adding a top 5 player to the team. The only way I see Giannis in a Knicks uniform is if the Knicks offer Brunson+ or Giannis absolutely forces his way here. There are plenty of other better packages than what the Knicks would offer and that was just looking at the east.

Depends on what you're adding to . Lakers added Luka last season, were they a contender? Building a true contender takes time. As far as better packages , teams are limited by the cap and/or the situation Gianis would be going into. Gianis doesnt want to wait at his age imo. No other team has a better combination of desired destination, contender status, and contract cap flexibility than us imo. If there is another team that does ..then who is it?

I acknowledged that Giannis could possibly force his way to the Knicks. Of course you can reply "but does Giannis want to play there?" to every single team. We don't know the answer to that. So yes, you can choose to ignore the Bucks' desires if you want to but I doubt the Bucks will.

You are also ignoring the Giannis wasn't even a great fit next to a small scoring guard that doesn't really run a good 2 man game in Lillard. Brunson and Giannis could easily have similar problems. He could end up being in another awkward situation on a team with no assets and no upside again. We just saw that the KAT/Brunson pairing wasn't some elite big/small duo. I love JB but if I am Giannis I would rather be paired with Cade, Trae and healthy Tyrese at the point guard position.

As far as the Knicks being in a better position to be contenders than other teams they didn't actually show a clear separation between them and the rest of the league last year. They looked much closer to the middle of the pack than to a true contender. Yes, they finished the year in the ECF but they struggled with the top teams all year outside of beating a broken down Celtics team in the playoffs.

The Pistons gave them trouble in the regular season and the postseason. The Pacers actually showed a much bigger gap between themselves and the Knicks than the Knicks showed between themselves and the Pistons if there was even a gap. The Pistons have access to all their picks with enough salary filler to not even give up a key core piece outside of an ageing Harris from the team that the Knicks barely got by last postseason.

The Knicks would have to give up a ton of depth and/or key core pieces just to match salary even if you ignore that it would be a terrible return for a top 5 player in Giannis. There are younger teams that were near the Knicks level last year with more expendable pieces to trade and build a team around Giannis that would not only be good for him next year but going forward as he gets older.

[3toheadmelo]

look..in terms of contracts..as a big mitch fan, we could package mitch and bridges for bam mid year. KAT/bam/og would be a very interesting frontcourt. it's like having everything you miss about julius - less range as a scorer, but tough and solid and actually a great defender. at that point, i mean, who needs mikal? you have og. phew. very much worth considering IF the heat were ever shopping bam. that guy's a knick if i ever saw one

not happening tho

Sounds like Randle's opposite outside of toughness. But this team misses (and I) in regards to Randle is the 2nd ball handler and gravity.

For me, I wouldn't do a 2 for 1 deal. Bridges and BAM straight up.

I live in fl so i watch a lot of heat games, seen him play in person a bunch of times etc. my take on bam in comparison to Randle is that Randle is the better offensive player. The issue with bam is that he kinda lacks that dog in him offensively to take over games, where Randle has no problem doing that (as we saw in the playoffs this year). Playmaking wise I would say they’re both similar but would prob give the edge to Randle. Bam is a much better defender and rebounder tho.

Bridges for Bam is a no brainer. But I really doubt Pat the rat would do it. He thinks of bam in the same light as Wade, Mourning, UD.