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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#161 » by Duffman100 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:46 am

So inquiring about the strike zone is disrespectful but accusing another player of taking steroids isn't?

Okay Pham.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#162 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:50 pm

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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#163 » by JN » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:02 pm

I see social media dumbasses calling for a beaning of somebody on the Pirates to make up for Pham.

This incident is clearly not worth starting a war over, where we then potentially get thrown at.
Let it go, guy is a loose cannon and nobody was hurt or thrown at on the Jays.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#164 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:09 pm

JN wrote:I see social media dumbasses calling for a beaning of somebody on the Pirates to make up for Pham.

This incident is clearly not worth starting a war over, where we then potentially get thrown at.
Let it go, guy is a loose cannon and nobody was hurt or thrown at on the Jays.

I'm not unopposed to this approach, but there's a pretty good chance Scherzer will hit Pham tonight at some point if he's in the lineup.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#165 » by Duffman100 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:17 pm

JN wrote:I see social media dumbasses calling for a beaning of somebody on the Pirates to make up for Pham.

This incident is clearly not worth starting a war over, where we then potentially get thrown at.
Let it go, guy is a loose cannon and nobody was hurt or thrown at on the Jays.


Agreed, I wouldn't hit another player because their teammate is an unhinged dumbass. That's not fair and you always risk hitting an elbow, finger, wrist etc and ruining their career.

You hit Pham if he's there.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#166 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:20 pm

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You dont gain 60lbs in one off-season without help.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#167 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:32 pm

Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#168 » by Duffman100 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:35 pm

johanliebert wrote:Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.


I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#169 » by Duffman100 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:42 pm

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johanliebert wrote:Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.


I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.


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If you're basing that on this tweet. I'd be a bit careful.

He's also listed as 210. And did he start at 160? I dunno...
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#170 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:07 pm

johanliebert wrote:
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You dont gain 60lbs in one off-season without help.


You don't gain 60lbs in one off season because it's physically impossible unless you are eating a horse every day. He did not go from 160->220 in one off season.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#171 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:27 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
johanliebert wrote:Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.


I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.


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If you're basing that on this tweet. I'd be a bit careful.

He's also listed as 210. And did he start at 160? I dunno...

That account can't be trusted for anything, but there has been a report that Barger got busted for something back in 2019 (a suspension that likely also extended into 2021 considering there was no minor league season in 2020 for him to sit out games).

In any case, I've got no issue with Barger being on anything that might help us win games (so long as he doesn't get caught).
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#172 » by Michael Bradley » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:45 pm

I guess this means Barger's Hall of Fame chances have diminished a bit.

Seriously though, if he was on it before and no longer on it, then it is what it is. Just stay off of it now. It clearly wasn't an Orelvis situation where he got off it and suddenly couldn't hit for power anymore.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#173 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:52 pm

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johanliebert wrote:Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.


I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.

Pham's a tool but i also have to question Barger gaining 60lbs in one off-season.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#174 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:00 pm

Michael Bradley wrote:I guess this means Barger's Hall of Fame chances have diminished a bit.

Depends on if he's likable or not. Was no problem for David Ortiz.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#175 » by Duffman100 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:08 pm

johanliebert wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
johanliebert wrote:Barger was suspended in 2019 and 2021. Then bulks up into the hulk in one off-season. Even as a jay fan you have to question it.


I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.

Pham's a tool but i also have to question Barger gaining 60lbs in one off-season.


As Fairview said, no way he did actually do that.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#176 » by vaff87 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:16 pm

Whatever reason Barger placed on the Restricted List, he was 19 at the time. Tommy Pham is a 37 year old, bringing up hearsay from 6 years ago, about another player he doesn’t know, from when they were a teenager, in an argument with a fan online.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#177 » by Parataxis » Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:33 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
johanliebert wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
I saw the one Pham posted for 2019. Source on the 2021? I thought the one was ADHD medication.

Pham's a tool but i also have to question Barger gaining 60lbs in one off-season.


As Fairview said, no way he did actually do that.



If he did, he was so secretive about it that he must have worn weights for his weigh-in last season.

Barger, per his MLB player page today: https://www.mlb.com/player/addison-barger-680718
- 6'0", 210lbs, age 25.

Barger, per his MLB player page in 2024: https://web.archive.org/web/20240730232205/https://www.mlb.com/player/addison-barger-680718
- 5'11", 210lbs, age 24.

I'm not a mathematician, but I'm pretty sure that the difference between 210 lbs and 210 lbs is less than 60 lbs. Can somebody doublecheck my math?
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#178 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:37 pm

vaff87 wrote:Whatever reason Barger placed on the Restricted List, he was 19 at the time. Tommy Pham is a 37 year old, bringing up hearsay from 6 years ago, about another player he doesn’t know, from when they were a teenager, in an argument with a fan online.

There's no age limit to being an idiot.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#179 » by bluerap23 » Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:55 pm

Duffman100 wrote:So inquiring about the strike zone is disrespectful but accusing another player of taking steroids isn't?

Okay Pham.


1. Pham seems to have roid rage.

2. There does seem to be some unusually large players in the league atm. Not naming names but a few on the jays.
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Re: Toronto (73-52) at Pittsburgh (52-73), August 18-August 20 

Post#180 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:27 pm

Pham benched today, gutless.
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