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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#381 » by Klomp » Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:37 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Kon is nowhere near the level of Sexton. And LaMelo needs someone accomplished who can shake/shift a defense for some much-needed, long overdue relief.

Are you familiar with Brandon Miller?
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#382 » by Klomp » Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:37 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Kon is nowhere near the level of Sexton. And LaMelo needs someone accomplished who can shake/shift a defense for some much-needed, long overdue relief.


Sexton? Huh?

It took me a while too, but I think he's talking about lineup combinations for the Hornets.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#383 » by Upperclass » Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:22 pm

Sexton fits well with Kon and I think that is their backcourt for most of the year. Whether Ball is traded or continues with the injury issues
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#384 » by rafale » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:43 pm

zero rings wrote:I’m sticking to my original comp: he’s a beefed up Austin Reaves with a pure jump shot. The extra weight really helps him on defense, too. He doesn’t get physically bullied the way Austin does.

If the Hornets start him (they should) he could eff around and win ROY


Knueppel is indeed stronger and a better shooter, but Austin Reeves is more athletic, has a much better handle and draws fouls much better.

They are completely differents players, only things they have in common is the color of their skin and their defense (below average for both).
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#385 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:51 pm

Wally Z IMO. Wally was a better athletic tester but it didnt really translate to the court.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#386 » by amcoolio » Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:52 pm

Kon really needs to work on his handle, he is shifty enough on the floor on both ends but not with the ball in his hands. If he works hard and improves his handle significantly (rare, but players like Kawhi, DeRozan and Jaylen Brown have done it) he could be very very good, like a Chris Mullin level of player
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#387 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:41 pm

rafale wrote:
zero rings wrote:I’m sticking to my original comp: he’s a beefed up Austin Reaves with a pure jump shot. The extra weight really helps him on defense, too. He doesn’t get physically bullied the way Austin does.

If the Hornets start him (they should) he could eff around and win ROY


Knueppel is indeed stronger and a better shooter, but Austin Reeves is more athletic, has a much better handle and draws fouls much better.

They are completely differents players, only things they have in common is the color of their skin and their defense (below average for both).


Kon has a higher floor defensively. As you said, they are different. Kon is built like a truck which means he likely will be able to not be a massive target defensively like Reaves can be at times.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#388 » by BigGargamel » Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:26 pm

Chris Mullin
Austin Reeves
Wally Szczerbiak
Luke Kennard
Deni Avdija

Just from the last two pages. Any white guys we haven't compared him to yet? :lol:
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#389 » by babyjax13 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:51 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Chris Mullin
Austin Reeves
Wally Szczerbiak
Luke Kennard
Deni Avdija

Just from the last two pages. Any white guys we haven't compared him to yet? :lol:

Shawn Bradley
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#390 » by Klomp » Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:58 pm

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BigGargamel wrote:Chris Mullin
Austin Reeves
Wally Szczerbiak
Luke Kennard
Deni Avdija

Just from the last two pages. Any white guys we haven't compared him to yet? :lol:

Shawn Bradley

Kon might weigh more than Shawn did....
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#391 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:21 pm

Middleton w/ higher 3PT volume and a bit less juice on defense is a nice non-Caucasian comparison IMO.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#392 » by mattg » Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:57 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:Middleton w/ higher 3PT volume and a bit less juice on defense is a nice non-Caucasian comparison IMO.

Middleton does almost everything off the bounce or out of ISO. Stylistically it's a legit BAD comparison. Kon just doesn't create offense in the same way as Khris at all, like even how they set the touches up initially is just a world away. Kon is like a stubby Klay way more than he is like Middleton.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#393 » by JRoy » Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:39 pm

Jared Dudley without the defense.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#394 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:07 pm

JRoy wrote:Jared Dudley without the defense.


Kon isn't a bad defender. He is strong and utilizes his positioning and strength to get leverage. I don't see why he can't be as good as Jared Dudley defensively. Dudley was incredibly grounded like Kon, for example Dudley totaled just 164 blocks in over 20,000 minutes. His Block Rate of 0.6% is incredibly low for a SG/SF and comparable to Kon's incredibly weak Block Rate in college, also at 0.6%.

The Dudley comparison is good, and seems like a fairly objective lower-end outcome one might expect if they don't think Kon can blossom in the NBA. Kon of course has some high-median outcomes better than Dudley, notably related to his passing ability and an advanced on-ball floor game compared to Dudley.

This is one of the better comparisons in this thread though, good job!
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#395 » by GoBobs » Wed Aug 27, 2025 2:44 am

His floor is likey Buddy Hield.

Before you po po Buddy let me point out the career .397 3pt percentage, and .858 ft percentage. That automatically makes him great on one side of the ball.

Ceiling is prime Klay Thompson.

Similar offensive numbers with pesky defense and 5 all stars in a row because your team is winning a bunch of chips.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#396 » by JRoy » Wed Aug 27, 2025 4:44 pm

His peak will not approach KT. KT was a solid athlete and defensive player. Kneuppel will be a complete liability on d.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#397 » by GoBobs » Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:59 pm

JRoy wrote:His peak will not approach KT. KT was a solid athlete and defensive player. Kneuppel will be a complete liability on d.


Klay Thompson - 26.5 standing vert, 31.5 max vert, 10.99 lane agility

Kon Kneuppel - 31.5 standing vert, 36.5 max vert, 11.92 lange agility
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#398 » by JRoy » Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:06 pm

Cool.

Which one could actually guard perimeter players?
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#399 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed Aug 27, 2025 7:24 pm

JRoy wrote:His peak will not approach KT. KT was a solid athlete and defensive player. Kneuppel will be a complete liability on d.


Was Jared Dudley a complete liability on defense?

I think Kon has similar tools and seems to have a strong feel for the game, which certainly helps defensively.

A complete liability is someone like Damian Lillard or Trae Young, right? Kon is much better than that tier.
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Re: Kon Knueppel 

Post#400 » by JRoy » Wed Aug 27, 2025 7:26 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
JRoy wrote:His peak will not approach KT. KT was a solid athlete and defensive player. Kneuppel will be a complete liability on d.


Was Jared Dudley a complete liability on defense?

I think Kon has similar tools and seems to have a strong feel for the game, which certainly helps defensively.

A complete liability is someone like Damian Lillard or Trae Young, right? Kon is much better than that tier.


Dudley had toughness. He was a competitor.

KK has a lot to prove.

Also Lillard and Young are offensive superstars. Maybe were for Lillard.
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