How big is the gap between Giannis and Bron?

[therealbig3]

12 Wade wasn’t that good in the playoffs. Not sure why people misremember that. Injuries were catching up to him, and he dropped the ball numerous times during that run, only for LeBron to bail him out. This was commented on in real time plenty, but I guess since they won, Wade gets praised. 2011 Wade was still a superstar sure, but that 12-14 stretch he was just not a reliable player in the playoffs, and he was the one that struggled finding a role next to LeBron because of a weak off ball game, not the other way around.

[therealbig3]

As for the thread, Giannis is awesome, I think historically underrated, but this is LeBron pretty clearly imo.

[The4thHorseman]

So now all of a sudden, just making the Finals is considered a great accomplishment?

Why the change of mind all of a sudden? I thought just making the Finals and losing didn't mean ****?

Not a change on my behalf. Only Lebron-haters bitch about Finals appearances and try to denigrate their utility.

Miami hasn't won a title since 2014, sure, but they've done pretty well for themselves in the post-Lebron era, all told. Could it be better? Absolutely, but they've been quite good, regardless. And they also haven't had health, or a tier-1 guy, so them not winning a title is pretty understandable. Butler, of course, was quite good in his hey-day.

I know, that's why I didn't respond to you yesterday.

[BigGargamel]

Jordan, Kareem and LeBron are the only players who should be in tier 1.

[The4thHorseman]

What tsherkin said lol….Spo and Riley are pretty good at their jobs

So now all of a sudden, just making the Finals is considered a great accomplishment?

Why the change of mind all of a sudden? I thought just making the Finals and losing didn't mean ****?

Lol first of all i never said thatand i cant take anything you say on here seriously considering you laughed when i said the 89 Pistons were a deep squad. Your entire purpose on here is to defend your king. Sad really. Still waiting for you to defend your stance on those Pistons.

You're full of ****.

You've said many times on here how Denver won a title with "only" one All-Star and praising Joker. Then cite many times how stacked LeBron's teams have been by citing how many All-Stars were on his teams. So when you cited that the 89 Pistons were "stacked" I asked you how that was possible since they only had 1 All-Star. I was using your logic since you've referred to Denver having "only" 1 All-Star. If you call those Pistons stacked, then surely you agree the 4 All-Star Hawks (that the Cavs swept in the 2015 ECF with Kyrie missing 2gms) were SUPER STACKED, right?? LeBron was the only All-Star on the 2016 title team so why **** on him and say he had a superteam, yet praise Joker?

Bottom line is you can't keep your trolling straight and only use context when it suits your argument.

You figure out what a dynasty is yet when using the term when talking NBA? Or you still think that non-title teams can be considered one?

[ball_takes23]

12 Wade wasn’t that good in the playoffs. Not sure why people misremember that. Injuries were catching up to him, and he dropped the ball numerous times during that run, only for LeBron to bail him out. This was commented on in real time plenty, but I guess since they won, Wade gets praised. 2011 Wade was still a superstar sure, but that 12-14 stretch he was just not a reliable player in the playoffs, and he was the one that struggled finding a role next to LeBron because of a weak off ball game, not the other way around.

Wade had to purposefully take a step back after 2011 because LeBron did not have an off ball game at that time. If Wade was playing next to Steph, KD, or Kawhi instead he would not have had to do this. Then of course instead of getting praised for his selflessness and putting the team ahead of himself, he gets attacked by LeBron stans because that’s what they do to every single one of his teammates, so why would Wade be any different?

[The4thHorseman]

12 Wade wasn’t that good in the playoffs. Not sure why people misremember that. Injuries were catching up to him, and he dropped the ball numerous times during that run, only for LeBron to bail him out. This was commented on in real time plenty, but I guess since they won, Wade gets praised. 2011 Wade was still a superstar sure, but that 12-14 stretch he was just not a reliable player in the playoffs, and he was the one that struggled finding a role next to LeBron because of a weak off ball game, not the other way around.

Wade had to purposefully take a step back after 2011 because LeBron did not have an off ball game at that time. If Wade was playing next to Steph, KD, or Kawhi instead he would not have had to do this. Then of course instead of getting praised for his selflessness and putting the team ahead of himself, he gets attacked by LeBron stans because that’s what they do to every single one of his teammates, so why would Wade be any different?

While Wade was injured in 2012, (missed 17 of the 66gm season) he saw how great the offensive was flowing without him and that's when he came forward and volunteered to play 2nd banana. He only avg. 1 fga less than the previous season though while LeBron avg almost exactly the same fga as the previous season.

Wade getting attacked by James fans? More like James haters still wanting to refer to Wade as a superstar in 2013 and 2014. His 2014 Finals was awful.

[MavsDirk41]

So now all of a sudden, just making the Finals is considered a great accomplishment?

Why the change of mind all of a sudden? I thought just making the Finals and losing didn't mean ****?

Lol first of all i never said thatand i cant take anything you say on here seriously considering you laughed when i said the 89 Pistons were a deep squad. Your entire purpose on here is to defend your king. Sad really. Still waiting for you to defend your stance on those Pistons.

You're full of ****.

You've said many times on here how Denver won a title with "only" one All-Star and praising Joker. Then cite many times how stacked LeBron's teams have been by citing how many All-Stars were on his teams. So when you cited that the 89 Pistons were "stacked" I asked you how that was possible since they only had 1 All-Star. I was using your logic since you've referred to Denver having "only" 1 All-Star. If you call those Pistons stacked, then surely you agree the 4 All-Star Hawks (that the Cavs swept in the 2015 ECF with Kyrie missing 2gms) were SUPER STACKED, right?? LeBron was the only All-Star on the 2016 title team so why **** on him and say he had a superteam, yet praise Joker?

Bottom line is you can't keep your trolling straight and only use context when it suits your argument.

You figure out what a dynasty is yet when using the term when talking NBA? Or you still think that non-title teams can be considered one?

Big time crocodile tears for bron bron lol…..so James was the only all star on Cleveland in 2016 but Irving put up 20/5/3 but only played 53 games that regular season AND Irving was an all star in 12/13, 13/14, 14/15, 16/17, and 17/18.

And Love was an all star 13/14, 16/17, and 17/18 so the James didnt have an all star teammate(s) while in Cleveland take 2 excuse is….well an excuse.

Joker never recruited or LeGMed a team that i am aware of so yea I respect his championship more. If it bothers you that i feel that way sorry, not sorry. I can have an opinion. No trolling here i just dont spend my days defending the guy on here like he is my family like you do.

Ill make this last one easy for you “the Utah Jazz won 50 plus games 11 of 13 seasons with a core of Malone and Stockton making the finals 2 times and the western conference finals 3 other years. This IMO was a dynasty.” I have respect for their longevity together and their success for such a long period of time. I said it and i stand by it. Get over it.

[CharityStripe34]

I think a moratorium on any topic involving LeBron would do wonders for the GB.

[MarcusBrody]

I think a moratorium on any topic involving LeBron would do wonders for the GB.

Good point! Has any ever suggested that a moratorium on topics involving Giannis would do wonder for the GB? HAVE THEY?!?!

[CharityStripe34]

I think a moratorium on any topic involving LeBron would do wonders for the GB.

Good point! Has any ever suggested that a moratorium on topics involving Giannis would do wonder for the GB? HAVE THEY?!?!

Other than that brief period with all those bogus Giannis trade rumors, there aren't too many threads about him.

It seems like LeBron threads derail into the same tired old debate points found on ESPN and other legacy media outlets that fans complain about.