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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1001 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:53 pm

fleet wrote:So, that kind of tells us he doesn’t foresee opportunities to start around the league. Unless the Bears let him know they would trade him if something came up in return for the additional financial security to sign right now in Chicago.


Or he’s so badass that’s he’s turned himself in a bonafide stud and in 2 years he will look like gods gift to QBs in this offense and we trade him for for 3 firsts and then we have to play him in the superbowl for the next 10 years
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1002 » by jnrjr79 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:55 pm

fleet wrote:So, that kind of tells us he doesn’t foresee opportunities to start around the league. Unless the Bears let him know they would trade him if something came up in return for the additional financial security to sign right now in Chicago.


I was wondering how to interpret it myself. He has career earnings of $1.7 million, according to spotrac. Maybe he doesn't think he'll be a starter, but maybe he's not willing to turn down $10 million just for future financial protection.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1003 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:01 pm

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fleet wrote:So, that kind of tells us he doesn’t foresee opportunities to start around the league. Unless the Bears let him know they would trade him if something came up in return for the additional financial security to sign right now in Chicago.


I was wondering how to interpret it myself. He has career earnings of $1.7 million, according to spotrac. Maybe he doesn't think he'll be a starter, but maybe he's not willing to turn down $10 million just for future financial protection.


Where’s he going to learn the most and be most ready when does get an opportunity to start elsewhere? I think that’s here. Behind the scenes he knows what Ben Johnson’s all about and wants to be here.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1004 » by nomorezorro » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:12 pm

as mentioned, he was an rfa after this season, so he was almost certainly going to be here next year no matter what barring a trade.

signing a contract now gets his guarantee locked in, with an extra year of money, plus incentives to earn more if caleb goes down and he has to start. it also makes him a more appealing trade asset in the event there is someone interested in letting him compete for a starting role.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1005 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:23 pm

I guess Bagent wants to be our backup. I love it.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1006 » by panthermark » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:23 pm

nomorezorro wrote:qb of the future locked down

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Hell, good on Poles!

What a success story. And fror his POV, it is hard to beat.
Dude will get paid $5M a year to hold a clip-board and be "ready just in case" on a team with an rebuilt O-line, the hot ticket HC/OC and a stacked WR/TE room.

He still has time to become a starter somewhere else via trade or FA.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1007 » by fleet » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:33 pm

I realize we would rather have Parsons or Hendrickson. But the hidden cost of acquiring one of those guys on top of trade compensation is that the Bears would have to let a number of people currently on the team (like Bagent) to leave later. And there’s a number of them.
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Post#1008 » by Bulls69 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:57 pm

nomorezorro wrote:qb of the future locked down

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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1009 » by dougthonus » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:01 pm

fleet wrote:So, that kind of tells us he doesn’t foresee opportunities to start around the league. Unless the Bears let him know they would trade him if something came up in return for the additional financial security to sign right now in Chicago.


10M isn't quite generational wealth especially given the high tax rates, but if you have no idea if you're ever going to get a shot to be a starter, getting locked in at high end backup money is pretty good.

I doubt anyone around the league is looking at Bagent going "I want to acquire him to be my starter", so makes sense to lock in some guaranteed money whereas if he left the Bears, there is the chance he'd likely need to compete to earn a backup spot which might be fine, but could easily go against him with an injury or any other little thing where he suddenly never has a chance again.

He'll probably get some chance to start here, and if he can impress then he'll have a much better shot to get signed into an open competition later.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1010 » by Dresden » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:08 pm

If you saw his press conference, he comes from a very poor family/area, and the chance to secure 10M is, in his own words, going to give him the opportunity "to help a lot of people back home". He wasn't in a position to risk that by going through FA, and I can't blame him. 10M means he and his family can be comfortable for the rest of their lives, no matter what happens in the rest of his career.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1011 » by dougthonus » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:32 pm

Dresden wrote:If you saw his press conference, he comes from a very poor family/area, and the chance to secure 10M is, in his own words, going to give him the opportunity "to help a lot of people back home". He wasn't in a position to risk that by going through FA, and I can't blame him. 10M means he and his family can be comfortable for the rest of their lives, no matter what happens in the rest of his career.


Doubt the 10M is enough to make it the rest of his life, but your point still stands. He'll lose like 4M to taxes, probably a bunch of the rest of it will probably cover immediate costs. Could probably make it last if he's super careful, but most guys who make that much in 2 years aren't super careful.

Either way, still agree generally, feels like a win/win for both sides here.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1012 » by Dresden » Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:34 pm

dougthonus wrote:
Dresden wrote:If you saw his press conference, he comes from a very poor family/area, and the chance to secure 10M is, in his own words, going to give him the opportunity "to help a lot of people back home". He wasn't in a position to risk that by going through FA, and I can't blame him. 10M means he and his family can be comfortable for the rest of their lives, no matter what happens in the rest of his career.


Doubt the 10M is enough to make it the rest of his life, but your point still stands. He'll lose like 4M to taxes, probably a bunch of the rest of it will probably cover immediate costs. Could probably make it last if he's super careful, but most guys who make that much in 2 years aren't super careful.

Either way, still agree generally, feels like a win/win for both sides here.


I think one problem a lot of guys have is that so many of their family, extended family, and friends are in such a bad way, that it's hard to say no to people around you who ask for help.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1013 » by Dresden » Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:53 pm

Well, it's not an ACL, but....

"Bleak news today on the injury front as the Chicago Tribune’s Brad Biggs has reported that Terell Smith suffered a season-ending patellar tendon tear in the Chicago Bears’ 38-0 preseason victory over the Buffalo Bills."
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1014 » by nomorezorro » Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:58 pm

that is actually worse than an acl. bummer
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1015 » by dice » Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:14 am

nomorezorro wrote:as mentioned, he was an rfa after this season, so he was almost certainly going to be here next year no matter what barring a trade.

as already responded to, this is obviously false. if some team offered him 10 mil a year in the offseason to compete for a starting job, the bears would surely not match
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1016 » by dice » Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:26 am

panthermark wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:qb of the future locked down

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Good for Agent Bagent!
Hell, good on Poles!

absolute win for bagent. poles once again fails to negotiate. bagent may be great inside the building, but he is not broadly seen as a high end backup, which is what he is now being paid as. and if he WAS, why the hell would you sign keenum?
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1017 » by dice » Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:38 am

last bears QB to get a second contract w/ the team was...

fields
siemian
peterman
foles
dalton
trubisky
daniel
glennon
hoyer
barkley
clausen


jay cutler (7 yr. extension in 2014)
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1018 » by fleet » Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:16 am

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Doubt the 10M is enough to make it the rest of his life,


:o

I know things are bad. But this is pretty bad.

If he spends and invests like a smart middle class individual, he should do well. If he tries to be a millionaire living like a billionaire as so many athletes do, then it’s true.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1019 » by Chi town » Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:11 am

Stay away from Hendrickson.

You gotta see what you have in Booker.

We will need the cap and the picks. Let the young g guys develop and let Coach and Poles nail it in the draft.
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Re: Bears 12.0 

Post#1020 » by dougthonus » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:54 am

fleet wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
Doubt the 10M is enough to make it the rest of his life,


:o

I know things are bad. But this is pretty bad.

If he spends and invests like a smart middle class individual, he should do well. If he tries to be a millionaire living like a billionaire as so many athletes do, then it’s true.


To be fair, it's not millionaire living like a billionaire type problems, it's millionaire living like a millionaire without a recurring income stream type problems. To make this last, he'd have to be a millionaire living like someone on a 100k income. That's a difficult thing to do when you have 5M in the bank, your family has a ton of financial problems, and everyone around you makes millions of dollars. You have so many different pulls that press you to live like the millionaire you are now, but if you want this to last forever, you can't live at our means, you have to live at 1/10th of your means.
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