Political Roundtable Part XXXIV

[dobrojim]

Blacks get systematically driven out of the iner cities.

Small businesses will fail, and their owners and investors leave.

Billionaires buy all the vacated lots after the ICE, MPD, and military/guard have sanitized the area

Some will live in luxurious extravance thereafter.

This sounds preposterous and extreme. I believe this is coming to fruition because people are too afraid, and others love to see minorities castigated. I never knew the depths of hatred in most MAGA until now.

They care about money and White nationalism under their cult leader, Trump.

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I thought I posted this easrlier today. Apologies for duplication.

[montestewart]

Lol bro turn off fox news, they have you so brainwashed you are hallucinating

You must have missed the part where I said I spent 9 years in DC. Receiving end of 2 attempted car jackings just sitting at a traffic light. Not to mention loved ones who were pistol whipped, car got broken into, chased with a gun after witnessing a robbery, thrown to the ground for a purse, and jumped after coming back from a bible study meeting. Ladies and gentlemen, DC. The city is a cesspool and needs to be fixed, what Trump doing, is applaud worthy. DC is one of the only places where the few bad apples sentiment doesn't apply; most in DC are degenerates.

Most of this happened at or around Howard's campus, so the fact that people are saying may not go to homecoming is craziness. If anything, this is motivation to now go.

When was this, the 90s? Most of us on this board live in DC and I don't recognize the city you're describing.

I lived in DC in the 80s and 90, and ever since. Crime is WAY down, city services have improved greatly, restaurant and retail options have also improved greatly. Trump/MAGA/Republican descriptions of DC are a fiction offered as a cover for some ulterior motive -- hurting Democrats, angering liberals, demonizing non-whites, making Trump look tough, rah rah for MAGA base, some combination, etc. Also, anyone that thinks the Federal government (regardless of ruling party) hasn't played a big hand in DC's shortcomings simply does not understand the relationship between DC and the Federal government. If DC had even one vote in Congress, its fortunes would be much better. If it had representation in the House and the Senate, it might get respect and consideration comparable to Wyoming, the Dakotas, Vermont, etc.with similar populations.

This heavy handed takeover was not to fight crime, it was to fight crime when it hurt one of their own, some guy whose nuts are part of his name. If they were really concerned about crime, they could have negotiated/coordinated with DC government/police to provide personnel to cover non-emergency functions, allowing DC police to increase neighborhood and hotspot patrols. They could have put National Guard at locations that have had flash mob activity. But the police and National Guard presence appears, by location placement, not to be sending a message to criminals about law and order but sending a message to everyone about power. The increase in reports of harassment against law abiding citizens is evidence of that. These federal personnel project (with only a few exceptions that I've seen) the unfriendliness of an occupying army.

I have no doubt that Trump and his administration are capable of doing some good things, but given his putrid track record on accomplishments (actual accomplishments, not prematurely declared, exaggerated or fabricated right wing fever dream echo chamber accomplishments) and his well documented propensity to lie, lie, lie, he gets no benefit of doubt, especially since he's already lied repeatedly about his premise for launching this PR driven crusade. That this plan relies so heavily on police (despite January 6 and pretty much everything related to it) and the military (despite Trump's long record of demeaning military personnel, families, and service, and recently calling his draft dodger self a war hero) produces irony similar to that of the devout, moral, evangelical support offered to the unrepentant serial liar, cheater, philanderer Trump.

[pancakes3]

You must have missed the part where I said I spent 9 years in DC. Receiving end of 2 attempted car jackings just sitting at a traffic light. Not to mention loved ones who were pistol whipped, car got broken into, chased with a gun after witnessing a robbery, thrown to the ground for a purse, and jumped after coming back from a bible study meeting. Ladies and gentlemen, DC. The city is a cesspool and needs to be fixed, what Trump doing, is applaud worthy. DC is one of the only places where the few bad apples sentiment doesn't apply; most in DC are degenerates.

Most of this happened at or around Howard's campus, so the fact that people are saying may not go to homecoming is craziness. If anything, this is motivation to now go.

When was this, the 90s? Most of us on this board live in DC and I don't recognize the city you're describing.

Every decade actually since my family immigrated here, from the 70s to the 2020s. When you break it down per capita, the true stats on how bad DC is surfaces, not the manufactured stats they manipulated

DC was 29th in violent crime in 2024 per capita, sandwiched between Tulsa OK and Greensboro NC.

That aside, sending soldiers in to do policework is nonsense.

Most crime is born of poverty, not morality. I only say most, because if you want to go on a per-dollar basis, the biggest thieves on planet earth are white collar.

Preventative/deterrent measures are most effective through community building, and investment in social services like after-school care.

Post-crime resources are most effective through hiring and training detectives who actually solve crimes, not hiring goons to rough up homeless people.

People in DC are rightfully upset by the growing trend of underage teenagers marauding about, but that's because (1) income inequality has robbed low-income families of their ability to provide for a safe space at home; and (2) late stage capitalism robbing our kids of free "third places" for them to congregate outside of school and home. libraries, community centers, ball fields, etc. are becoming increasingly less convenient for the low-income community. suburbanites can afford to shuttle their kids to sports practice, tutoring centers, etc. However, even with sports, the AAU system has turned youth sports into an expensive, parent-funded farm league such that kids who just want to play sports but clearly do not have the athleticism to go pro are being denied of the opportunity to just play.

sending in the Alabama national guard strapped with assault rifles does nothing to solve the root cause of any of these crises.

so maybe read a book every now and again.

[daoneandonly]

When was this, the 90s? Most of us on this board live in DC and I don't recognize the city you're describing.

Every decade actually since my family immigrated here, from the 70s to the 2020s. When you break it down per capita, the true stats on how bad DC is surfaces, not the manufactured stats they manipulated

DC was 29th in violent crime in 2024 per capita, sandwiched between Tulsa OK and Greensboro NC.

That aside, sending soldiers in to do policework is nonsense.

Most crime is born of poverty, not morality. I only say most, because if you want to go on a per-dollar basis, the biggest thieves on planet earth are white collar.

Preventative/deterrent measures are most effective through community building, and investment in social services like after-school care.

Post-crime resources are most effective through hiring and training detectives who actually solve crimes, not hiring goons to rough up homeless people.

People in DC are rightfully upset by the growing trend of underage teenagers marauding about, but that's because (1) income inequality has robbed low-income families of their ability to provide for a safe space at home; and (2) late stage capitalism robbing our kids of free "third places" for them to congregate outside of school and home. libraries, community centers, ball fields, etc. are becoming increasingly less convenient for the low-income community. suburbanites can afford to shuttle their kids to sports practice, tutoring centers, etc. However, even with sports, the AAU system has turned youth sports into an expensive, parent-funded farm league such that kids who just want to play sports but clearly do not have the athleticism to go pro are being denied of the opportunity to just play.

sending in the Alabama national guard strapped with assault rifles does nothing to solve the root cause of any of these crises.

so maybe read a book every now and again.

yeah blah blah blah income disparity, poverty causes crime, stop with the garbage. Poor people don'tt commit crimes, low-life degenerates do. Poor people don't put others' lives and safety in danger, low-life degenerates do. did you turn to crime when you and your family were all crammed in a small apartment like you claim? If no, then yea because lack of income doesnt turn to crime, if yes, then you are a low life who shouldn't walk the streets

SO that book you recommend I read, shove it

[JWizmentality]

I grew up in a country far more dangerous than DC, and never had half what you claim happen to me or any extended family. Statistics and probability say you're full of ****. Either that or you're a gang member or you have the lousiest situational awareness, or both.

[Kanyewest]

From the surface of things, sending these government enforcers is just a show of a force and nothing productive is being done at least with the amount of money they are spending for it. Sending troops to high income areas like Georgetown for instance shows a poor coordination with the local law enforcement. Not to mention that crime has already fell to historic lows in January of 2025. That being said, there was certainly a crime problem in cities post covid but appears with people going back to their daily lives, that this was no longer a problem. That being said, the low information voters may still be falling for it although the local citizens (even those who support Trump) appear to be against this intervention.

[Wizardspride]

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[montestewart]

From the surface of things, sending these government enforcers is just a show of a force and nothing productive is being done at least with the amount of money they are spending for it. Sending troops to high income areas like Georgetown for instance shows a poor coordination with the local law enforcement. Not to mention that crime has already fell to historic lows in January of 2025. That being said, there was certainly a crime problem in cities post covid but appears with people going back to their daily lives, that this was no longer a problem. That being said, the low information voters may still be falling for it although the local citizens (even those who support Trump) appear to be against this intervention.

On the day Trump announced whatever he calls this (Operation Illegal Eagle?) a drug dealer was murdered right in front of my house. I don't have any illusions about crime in DC, and there are definitely things that could be done to make DC safer. I don't see Trump's moves as logical, well-informed, well-coordinated, or even well-meaning measures done for the benefit of people that live, work, or visit DC. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm guessing this will be a lot like DOGE, lots of fanfare, propaganda, statements of arrogant indifference, without any positive lasting impact on crime, possibly excepting a reduction in crime accompanied by a commensurate curtailment of Constitutional liberties. Trump did say he wanted police to be able to do whatever the hell they wanted to do. I take him at his word on that one, at least.

[Zonkerbl]

Every decade actually since my family immigrated here, from the 70s to the 2020s. When you break it down per capita, the true stats on how bad DC is surfaces, not the manufactured stats they manipulated

DC was 29th in violent crime in 2024 per capita, sandwiched between Tulsa OK and Greensboro NC.

That aside, sending soldiers in to do policework is nonsense.

Most crime is born of poverty, not morality. I only say most, because if you want to go on a per-dollar basis, the biggest thieves on planet earth are white collar.

Preventative/deterrent measures are most effective through community building, and investment in social services like after-school care.

Post-crime resources are most effective through hiring and training detectives who actually solve crimes, not hiring goons to rough up homeless people.

People in DC are rightfully upset by the growing trend of underage teenagers marauding about, but that's because (1) income inequality has robbed low-income families of their ability to provide for a safe space at home; and (2) late stage capitalism robbing our kids of free "third places" for them to congregate outside of school and home. libraries, community centers, ball fields, etc. are becoming increasingly less convenient for the low-income community. suburbanites can afford to shuttle their kids to sports practice, tutoring centers, etc. However, even with sports, the AAU system has turned youth sports into an expensive, parent-funded farm league such that kids who just want to play sports but clearly do not have the athleticism to go pro are being denied of the opportunity to just play.

sending in the Alabama national guard strapped with assault rifles does nothing to solve the root cause of any of these crises.

so maybe read a book every now and again.

yeah blah blah blah income disparity, poverty causes crime, stop with the garbage. Poor people don'tt commit crimes, low-life degenerates do. Poor people don't put others' lives and safety in danger, low-life degenerates do. did you turn to crime when you and your family were all crammed in a small apartment like you claim? If no, then yea because lack of income doesnt turn to crime, if yes, then you are a low life who shouldn't walk the streets

SO that book you recommend I read, shove it

I lived in Anacostia for nine years, got my house broken into once, a teenager was shot to death on my block as a gang initiation rite, and I had stuff regularly stolen off my porch. What did I learn from that? Anacostia SUCKS. I lived in Eckington and Wheaton for extended periods and nothing like that ever happened there. The whole city is a funnel that rich people kick poor people into and Anacostia is where they end up. That says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about DC as a whole. Every FRICKING city in the US is EXACTLY LIKE THIS. All the poor people get herded into one super poor area where all the crime happens and if you can't afford to live anywhere else, you experience a lot of crime. That describes ALL OF AMERICA right now.

The overall violent crime rate is at an all time low right now. You lived in a crap neighborhood and experienced a lot of crime. Your sample is non representative of the overall trend. It is biased by the way late stage capitalism criminalizes poverty. You are going to die ten years early from unnecessary hate. Fix your mind.

You also need to learn statistics. Poor people are MORE LIKELY to commit violent crimes. Being a low life degenerate has nothing to do with anything. Rich low life degenerates don't commit violent crimes, they run for president

[Wizardspride]

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[Gig18]

He's just laying the groundwork to have a flotilla of national guardsmen between himself and the public if he decides to try to cancel or otherwise disrupt the mid-term elections next year.
he already got away with fomenting a damn uprising at Congress Jan. 6.
Now he'll have the army in the streets to keep protests and civil disobedience down...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

DC was 29th in violent crime in 2024 per capita, sandwiched between Tulsa OK and Greensboro NC.

That aside, sending soldiers in to do policework is nonsense.

Most crime is born of poverty, not morality. I only say most, because if you want to go on a per-dollar basis, the biggest thieves on planet earth are white collar.

Preventative/deterrent measures are most effective through community building, and investment in social services like after-school care.

Post-crime resources are most effective through hiring and training detectives who actually solve crimes, not hiring goons to rough up homeless people.

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yeah blah blah blah income disparity, poverty causes crime, stop with the garbage. Poor people don'tt commit crimes, low-life degenerates do. Poor people don't put others' lives and safety in danger, low-life degenerates do. did you turn to crime when you and your family were all crammed in a small apartment like you claim? If no, then yea because lack of income doesnt turn to crime, if yes, then you are a low life who shouldn't walk the streets

SO that book you recommend I read, shove it

I lived in Anacostia for nine years, got my house broken into once, a teenager was shot to death on my block as a gang initiation rite, and I had stuff regularly stolen off my porch. What did I learn from that? Anacostia SUCKS. I lived in Eckington and Wheaton for extended periods and nothing like that ever happened there. The whole city is a funnel that rich people kick poor people into and Anacostia is where they end up. That says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about DC as a whole. Every FRICKING city in the US is EXACTLY LIKE THIS. All the poor people get herded into one super poor area where all the crime happens and if you can't afford to live anywhere else, you experience a lot of crime. That describes ALL OF AMERICA right now.

The overall violent crime rate is at an all time low right now. You lived in a crap neighborhood and experienced a lot of crime. Your sample is non representative of the overall trend. It is biased by the way late stage capitalism criminalizes poverty. You are going to die ten years early from unnecessary hate. Fix your mind.

You also need to learn statistics. Poor people are MORE LIKELY to commit violent crimes. Being a low life degenerate has nothing to do with anything. Rich low life degenerates don't commit violent crimes, they run for president

The root cause of all these problems is fathers out of the homes. Welfare made mothers wait on a check as fathers hustled the streets using and selling drugs.


[YouTube]https://youtu.be/3EhiUB-nwcw?si=O17c70vzcOvGQsI3[/youtube]


Instead of deporting illegal aliens, ICE needs to tag fathers and link them to their offspring. Mothers need to be flagged. Both need to be evaluated and rated as fit or unfit by primarily computer and interviews.

Lawyers and judges need to be excluded from profiting on family law.

Community leaders, vetted elders, retirees, principals, etc. , need to teach parents how to communicate and have empathy as well as be civil. Civics and community responsibility should be stressed.

Basically, reverse what started going off the rails in the 60s. RESTORE LOVING FAMILY AGAIN.

At the 17:00 mark, a young woman who just had a baby explains why she's not marrying the man she loves. Waiting on her welfare check was more secure. That's sad.

[queridiculo]

I see the turd that simply won't flush has made yet another appearance.

Brown, racist and proud of it.

[Kanyewest]

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In the meantime, Maryland Freedom Caucus State Director Ali Rak called Gov. Wes Moore a ‘ghetto governor’ in an Aug. 21 post on X, criticizing the state’s $400 million plan to rebuild Baltimore’s Pimlico Race Course.

https://www.wbal.com/ghetto-governor-remark-at-wes-moore-by-freedom-caucus-official-triggers-political-backlash-in-maryland

[doclinkin]

He's just laying the groundwork to have a flotilla of national guardsmen between himself and the public if he decides to try to cancel or otherwise disrupt the mid-term elections next year.
he already got away with fomenting a damn uprising at Congress Jan. 6.
Now he'll have the army in the streets to keep protests and civil disobedience down...

100% this. And the Epstein files.

He wants to provoke civil unrest somewhere in a high profile way so he can declare martial law and revoke the constitution. Suspend voting etc. And all of this is part of the shell game where he became president to avoid consequences of his illegal acts, therefore needs to prolong the scam for as long as possible.

The Epstein biz is the most public and embarrassing of those felonies and is the one area where he loses face with his ignorant mob. So he will do whatever high profile shenanigans he can to drag the spotlight away from this.

He would instigate WW3 to avoid public embarrassment. Except that Putin clearly has kompromat on him. Much better instead to start Civil War part 2. Rolling the US military into areas where he might find resistance. First and foremost the center of power.

He will try to stay in power for the rest of his life since ultimately consequences are going to find him as soon as he slips. Destroying the rule of Law and hijacking the military to entrench himself is simply another step along the way. Side benefit is that nobody is talking about those files this week.

[daoneandonly]

I grew up in a country far more dangerous than DC, and never had half what you claim happen to me or any extended family. Statistics and probability say you're full of ****. Either that or you're a gang member or you have the lousiest situational awareness, or both.

Oh no, some liberal whacko thinks I make up violent atrocities for what? There's no reasoning with you guys who think every one should make the same salary and hold hands singing kumbaya. Im not making up anything, I see everyday the scar on my family member's head from the pistol whip. You're full of crap, you never experienced the victim side of crime because you yourself were the one doing it. Most of what I said happened to loved ones; working to support your fam or waiting for public transportation isnt having a lack of situational awareness, nor is waiting at a red light when commuting to/and from work. I suppose I should just run the red light at sketchy DC intersections, there's a viable solution.

[daoneandonly]

DC was 29th in violent crime in 2024 per capita, sandwiched between Tulsa OK and Greensboro NC.

That aside, sending soldiers in to do policework is nonsense.

Most crime is born of poverty, not morality. I only say most, because if you want to go on a per-dollar basis, the biggest thieves on planet earth are white collar.

Preventative/deterrent measures are most effective through community building, and investment in social services like after-school care.

Post-crime resources are most effective through hiring and training detectives who actually solve crimes, not hiring goons to rough up homeless people.

People in DC are rightfully upset by the growing trend of underage teenagers marauding about, but that's because (1) income inequality has robbed low-income families of their ability to provide for a safe space at home; and (2) late stage capitalism robbing our kids of free "third places" for them to congregate outside of school and home. libraries, community centers, ball fields, etc. are becoming increasingly less convenient for the low-income community. suburbanites can afford to shuttle their kids to sports practice, tutoring centers, etc. However, even with sports, the AAU system has turned youth sports into an expensive, parent-funded farm league such that kids who just want to play sports but clearly do not have the athleticism to go pro are being denied of the opportunity to just play.

sending in the Alabama national guard strapped with assault rifles does nothing to solve the root cause of any of these crises.

so maybe read a book every now and again.

yeah blah blah blah income disparity, poverty causes crime, stop with the garbage. Poor people don'tt commit crimes, low-life degenerates do. Poor people don't put others' lives and safety in danger, low-life degenerates do. did you turn to crime when you and your family were all crammed in a small apartment like you claim? If no, then yea because lack of income doesnt turn to crime, if yes, then you are a low life who shouldn't walk the streets

SO that book you recommend I read, shove it

I lived in Anacostia for nine years, got my house broken into once, a teenager was shot to death on my block as a gang initiation rite, and I had stuff regularly stolen off my porch. What did I learn from that? Anacostia SUCKS. I lived in Eckington and Wheaton for extended periods and nothing like that ever happened there. The whole city is a funnel that rich people kick poor people into and Anacostia is where they end up. That says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about DC as a whole. Every FRICKING city in the US is EXACTLY LIKE THIS. All the poor people get herded into one super poor area where all the crime happens and if you can't afford to live anywhere else, you experience a lot of crime. That describes ALL OF AMERICA right now.

The overall violent crime rate is at an all time low right now. You lived in a crap neighborhood and experienced a lot of crime. Your sample is non representative of the overall trend. It is biased by the way late stage capitalism criminalizes poverty. You are going to die ten years early from unnecessary hate. Fix your mind.

You also need to learn statistics. Poor people are MORE LIKELY to commit violent crimes. Being a low life degenerate has nothing to do with anything. Rich low life degenerates don't commit violent crimes, they run for president

That's just it. I didn't live (nor did my family) in DC ever, and by God's grace, I never will or will never go back. This was broad daylight going to work (or college) when all these things happened. So it's not like we were up to no good at night. We were just doing something most Democrats hate, working without expecting someone else to cover my expenses.

Once again poverty in America is nothing compared to that in other countries. There are villages in my native India with slums that make Anacostia look like Potomac MD, yet those slums aren't leaps and bounds more violent than other parts of India, because being poor doesn't give you an excuse to be a libertine, interesting how the root of that word is so similar to another many here identify with?

[daoneandonly]

I see the turd that simply won't flush has made yet another appearance.

Brown, racist and proud of it.

Here we go again, the race card. The same tired reach to the holster.

Yeah the guy that went to the Mecca, HU, and loved it, yet somehow racist. Never once brought up race,

[AFM]

What is this guy even talking about? You can tell his brain is totally f'd up on Fox News propaganda, democrats hate working? Let me guess, we don't know how many genders there are too, right?

[daoneandonly]

What is this guy even talking about? You can tell his brain is totally f'd up on Fox News propaganda, democrats hate working? Let me guess, we don't know how many genders there are too, right?

I actually watch News Nation, pretty down the middle and not biased like CNN, MSNBC< and the aforementioned Fox.

But yes, there are only 2 genders, not this fluid thing the left believes. Funny how science is huge and important when it fits the left's argument, but XX and XY chromosomes, not so much.