Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[Dogen]

If you are going to attach a pick or two to Simons, the guy to go after is Okongwu from Atlanta.

I don't think Atlanta would do it.

Okongwu is on a team friendly contract.
The Hawks won't do it for picks.

Jarrett Allen on the other hand could be available for salary cap purposes.

I agree. No way Atlanta goes for this. Brad just needs to wait until he's able to aggregate players with Simons. Will make it easier to get a deal done.

And when KP is inevitably out, they'd have Gueye and Dante, and there's another young guy, Eli John N'Diaye, all untested at the Center position? That may be worse than what Celtics have.

[Hal14]

I don't think Atlanta would do it.

Okongwu is on a team friendly contract.
The Hawks won't do it for picks.

Jarrett Allen on the other hand could be available for salary cap purposes.

I agree. No way Atlanta goes for this. Brad just needs to wait until he's able to aggregate players with Simons. Will make it easier to get a deal done.

And when KP is inevitably out, they'd have Gueye and Dante, and there's another young guy, Eli John N'Diaye, all untested at the Center position? That may be worse than what Celtics have.

Asa Newell too..he can play the 4 or the 5..

[Dogen]

I agree. No way Atlanta goes for this. Brad just needs to wait until he's able to aggregate players with Simons. Will make it easier to get a deal done.

And when KP is inevitably out, they'd have Gueye and Dante, and there's another young guy, Eli John N'Diaye, all untested at the Center position? That may be worse than what Celtics have.

Asa Newell too..he can play the 4 or the 5..

Yeah, I forgot they drafted Asa. Another young, untested guy though. Not so sure he's a true NBA 5, small ball 5 sure.

I do like him, though. One scenario was the Celtics moving into the teens to draft him.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

My Prediction for Simon:

No equitable trade for him will be found at the Deadline, which doesn't cost the Celtics a First Round Pick, so they will just buy out his contact and save Tax Space that way...

[Fierce1]

My Prediction for Simon:

No equitable trade for him will be found at the Deadline, which doesn't cost the Celtics a First Round Pick, so they will just buy out his contact and save Tax Space that way...

Simons' salary will still be part of the cap space.

A buyout will just save the team money, not cap space.

[dortmunder]

news on walsh cut and bassey sign?

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news on walsh cut and bassey sign?

Not gonna happen. We drafted Walsh 38th overall. A pick that high, you don't just cut them after 2 years, unless they have been really bad which has not been the case for Walsh. He's worked hard, he's shown some promise in limited mins (the mins will of course be limited for a 1st/2nd year player who's only 19-21 yrs old for a team that is a title contender.

He played well in summer league..with the only hiccup being getting ejected from the Heat game, which Mazzulla loved him for. There's upside with Walsh.

We have enough bodies at center. Nobody seems to want Bassey. The only teams who have shown any reported interest in him this offseason were teams overseas.

[Fierce1]

Cam Thomas considering 2 years for 28m.

That's 14m per year.

Celtics really need another scorer after KP leaving.

Simons for Cam Thomas in a sign and trade?

[Curmudgeon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

[Fierce1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

[djFan71]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

I like the financials, but can't say I've watched Cam enough to have an opinion. Say you could get Simons back on that same deal next summer. Would you rather have Simons or Cam at that $ off the bench?

[Curmudgeon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

But would the Celtics then be hard capped? If so, their roster is frozen for the year, yes?

[brackdan70]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

But would the Celtics then be hard capped? If so, their roster is frozen for the year, yes?

Yes hard capped at first Apron for receiving a player in a sign and trade.

[djFan71]

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

But would the Celtics then be hard capped? If so, their roster is frozen for the year, yes?

Yes hard capped at first Apron for receiving a player in a sign and trade.

But no on the frozen - technically. If they did this move, they'd have about $9.6M under the 1st apron to work with. But, probably wouldn't use it since they'd also be $1.5M under the tax. And if you're under, there would have to be an insane deal to make you go back over.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

My Prediction for Simon:

No equitable trade for him will be found at the Deadline, which doesn't cost the Celtics a First Round Pick, so they will just buy out his contact and save Tax Space that way...

Simons' salary will still be part of the cap space.

A buyout will just save the team money, not cap space.

And of course, Celtics ownership has shown no indication of wanting to save money...

[Fierce1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

I like the financials, but can't say I've watched Cam enough to have an opinion. Say you could get Simons back on that same deal next summer. Would you rather have Simons or Cam at that $ off the bench?

That's why I want to see Simons play for Joe.

Right now it's hard to tell.

[celtxman]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a sign and trade hard cap the Celtics? Just let Brooklyn sign him and then make the trade a week later. But I'm not sure Cam Thomas is much of an upgrade over Simons, and the trade wouldn't save that much money.

Brooklyn can't sign him then trade him one week later.

The trade would get the Cs under the 1st apron.

So that's going from Simons' 27m to 14m.

I like the financials, but can't say I've watched Cam enough to have an opinion. Say you could get Simons back on that same deal next summer. Would you rather have Simons or Cam at that $ off the bench?

That's a tough call. I live in NY so I've certainly seen enough of him through YES and League Pass. He is a scary good scorer but his defense is below standard. His hamstring injury is a problem. It wrecked his season last year. If I could have either one for $14m per I would take Simons. But I don't think Simons would sign for anything close to $14m. So assuming Thomas was healthy, I would take him. I would consider Simons and a 1st for Thomas.

[Fierce1]

What I like about Simons is his ability to score on drives and floaters.

Cam Thomas is more like JT and JB.
He gets buckets even when he's guarded well.

Cs need someone like Maxey or Garland.
Simons is close enough.

So we'll see.

Not against trading Simons, but I want to see him play for the Cs first.

But if the Cs like Cam Thomas and Thomas is willing to take 14m per year, I think that's a safe trade.

Cs get another scorer in Thomas and at a reasonable price.

[Shak_Celts]

Okay, Simmons got that number as you all know, now I think I’m safe to watch his videos… at least it seems we’re going to see him play for us. Whether it’s deadline or a month into the season, a number means he’s going to get some games.

[bucknersrevenge]

Okay, Simmons got that number as you all know, now I think I’m safe to watch his videos… at least it seems we’re going to see him play for us. Whether it’s deadline or a month into the season, a number means he’s going to get some games.

Well...it does until it doesn't maybe...

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