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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#321 » by JN » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:04 am

Mehar wrote:Call Fisher back up and send Fluharty down. An idiotic decision to send down Fisher after being a solid reliever throughout the year. As this game shows, this team needs to do what it takes to keep Bichette in the fold long-term.

It will not be a good look to simply lose Bo, and replace him with Gimenez at SS. Gimenez's bat is nowhere near the level of Bichette, and this team will suffer dramatically in 2026 if that is the case.


Unless there is an injury I dont believe they will be able to call Fisher up for another week or so .. I think it’s 7 or 10 days. (But I could be wrong)
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#322 » by pingpongrac » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:12 am

PushDaRock wrote:some of you will not make it through a playoff series


Seriously. The first sign of danger and it's "this team sucks" or "fire everyone". :lol:
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#323 » by COY0607 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:22 am

Bullpen is pretty fully gassed today.

Will they go back on Laurel decision and make him available tomorrow? Ideally between Gausman and Laurer you get 8-9 innings
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#324 » by Tripod » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:27 am

Gaus is going to pitch lots tomorrow regardless of the score. Hopefully give him some run support.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#325 » by Potential » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:10 am

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Post#326 » by pingpongrac » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:33 am

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Post#327 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:44 am

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PushDaRock wrote:some of you will not make it through a playoff series


Seriously. The first sign of danger and it's "this team sucks" or "fire everyone". :lol:

First sign of danger?

Oh I wanted them fired win or lose
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#328 » by JCP11 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:15 am

vaff87 wrote:Brendon Little’s zone% is like 35-36%. If I was hitting, I think I’d be up there banking on him throwing 4 balls before he throws 3 strikes.

It confirms my suspicions, Little rarely challenges hitters that's why he's always in deep counts. His curve in the dirt is highly predictable and hitters usually lay off that pitch because he doesn't throw strikes. However today he threw more strikes than usual and he won them the game. Maybe Pete noticed it and told him to challenge hitters more.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#329 » by vaff87 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:48 am

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vaff87 wrote:Brendon Little’s zone% is like 35-36%. If I was hitting, I think I’d be up there banking on him throwing 4 balls before he throws 3 strikes.

It confirms my suspicions, Little rarely challenges hitters that's why he's always in deep counts. His curve in the dirt is highly predictable and hitters usually lay off that's pitch because he doesn't throw strikes. However today he threw more strikes than usual and he won them the game. Maybe Pete noticed it and told him to challenge hitters more.


I don’t necessarily think it’s that he doesn’t challenge hitters. He just has a ton of movement on his pitches and he has poor control. It’s extra hard to control your pitches when they move as much as his do.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#330 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:56 am

Little has been our best RP overall this year, what he does is insanely valuable.

You’ll take a few walks if somebody gets whiffs at the rate he does. The scouting report (not to swing) is definitely out on him at this point and he’s still been quite effective anyway.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#331 » by JCP11 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:02 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:Little has been our best RP overall this year, what he does is insanely valuable.

You’ll take a few walks if somebody gets whiffs at the rate he does. The scouting report (not to swing) is definitely out on him at this point and he’s still been quite effective anyway.

If it's control issues then i'm wrong but it's also scary lol
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#332 » by TR50 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:26 am

Hey all,
If this is inappropriate here, then please feel free to delete this, mods. Just wanted to share that I have Jays tickets for this coming Wednesday's game against the Twins. I am unable to go and am happy to sell them to anyone else that would like to go to the game instead. The seats are in section 538, row 9, seats 5,6. The price would be $74.

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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#333 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:33 am

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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#334 » by vaff87 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:53 am

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Accurate. He’s been way too disrespected.


Hard to be consistent offensively when you’re going on the IL for multiple month long stints in a season. His statcast numbers are a fair bit better than his actual stats, too.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#337 » by Mehar » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:24 pm

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Accurate. He’s been way too disrespected.


Hard to be consistent offensively when you’re going on the IL for multiple month long stints in a season. His statcast numbers are a fair bit better than his actual stats, too.

I have no problem with Gimenez on this team if he was not making 15 million next year, and then a ridiculous 71.5 million guaranteed over three years from 2027 to 2029. That will be a lot of money you expect to pay in the years ahead for a guy hitting .217 for the year, with a .303 ON Base, and a .611 OPS. Love his defense but he is essentially Ryan Goins 2.0. Hopefully in due time he can be his 2022 version, when Gimenez was very good offensively in Cleveland.

Gimenez's back loaded contract might be the reason also this front office might have a limit on how much they can offer Bichette. It will be a serious problem offensively starting in 2026, if you lose Bichette and just replace him at SS with Gimenez. I will still take Spencer Horwitz making 767,500 for the year with 5 years of control left and making a fraction of what Gimenez is making, and who will hit singles and get on base over Gimenez and his remaining 4 year ridiculous contract.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#338 » by bluerap23 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:15 pm

Mehar wrote:I have no problem with Gimenez on this team if he was not making 15 million next year, and then a ridiculous 71.5 million guaranteed over three years from 2027 to 2029. That will be a lot of money you expect to pay in the years ahead for a guy hitting .217 for the year, with a .303 ON Base, and a .611 OPS. Love his defense but he is essentially Ryan Goins 2.0. Hopefully in due time he can be his 2022 version, when Gimenez was very good offensively in Cleveland.

Gimenez's back loaded contract might be the reason also this front office might have a limit on how much they can offer Bichette. It will be a serious problem offensively starting in 2026, if you lose Bichette and just replace him at SS with Gimenez. I will still take Spencer Horwitz making 767,500 for the year with 5 years of control left and making a fraction of what Gimenez is making, and who will hit singles and get on base over Gimenez and his remaining 4 year ridiculous contract.


Agreed. Not a great use of budget. You'd get almost the same overall value from Clement at a fraction of the price. I'm pretty sure that they don't make the acquisition if they knew what they would be getting out of Barger, Lukes, Loperfido. But they are also probably hopeful that he can regain his offensive form from 2022. If he does that (not an insignificant gamble) then he is worth the contract. Unfortunately that looks pretty unlikely.
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Re: Blue Jays (74-54) @ Marlins (60-67) Aug 22-24 

Post#339 » by JN » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:37 pm

Remember when the Yankees and Mets were two of the big winners at the trade deadline -- without acquiring a single frontline starter. They are a combined 16-24 since the trade deadline, and their starting staffs especially the Mets are struggling.

Maybe they should have had the balls to get a starter like Bieber.
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