Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling

[Mr Peanut]

My prediction is he returns to us on a 2 year 15 million deal (7.2 in the first year, with the second year being a player option). That way if he outperforms the contract he can re-enter FA next year, but if he has a down year/deals with injuries he can pick up the PO for some more guaranteed money.

And if he has another good year, he opts out and we give him a bigger contract

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Exactly. The below teams are able to offer more money next year:

Brooklyn - not actively trying to win
Charlotte - possible threat although just drafted Kon Knueppel who also plays SG
Chicago - possible as they never actively tank although still awaiting resolution of the Giddey situation
Indiana - essentially having a gap year given the Haliburton injury and ownership is cheap
Miami - can offer only $100k more than Detroit, also just ducked the tax with Highsmith trade so unlikely to take on more salary
OKC - possible threat but already have guard depth and very close to luxury tax
Sacramento - possible threat but reportedly trying to sign Westbrook and currently have no open roster spots
Washington - not actively trying to win

Of those the only team I'd be worried about is Charlotte - they have their full MLE to spend and may see a Beasley signing as a path to improving their record and depriving another Eastern team (us) of a key piece.

[breezypeezy]

Get it done Gores!
He improves the team, he's proven on the court, he actively campaigned to get resigned pre-scandal and he likes Detroit, the city, the team.
This is a guy to get back into rotation.

We have been in rut and we must reject going back, reject fear of success. Malik is a proven winner, let's do this!

[Snakebites]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

[theBigLip]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

TheBigLip’s optimism saying the Pistons could also get him a ring

[zeebneeb]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

TheBigLip’s optimism saying the Pistons could also get him a ring

This is exactly where I'm at. If the Pistons resign Beasley, they are absolutely a title threat.

Yes, they are young. Yes they have just begun to scratch their potential, but the sheer depth of talent on the roster before Beasley is awesome. You add the leagues #1-3 shooter, it gets ridiculous.

Last year, after Ivey went down, if Beasley had an off night, Cade had to drop 30+ basically. If Cade had an off night, it was rough. That is absolutely not the case anymore.

Maybe my optimism is getting the better of me, and having Harris still as the teams starting PF, with no clear backup is worrisome, but if Beasley resigns, that means all the team has lost is THJ, and Schroder, and Tek, while gaining Robinson/LeVert/Ivey is ridiculous.

I'll ask these questions;

1.)What if Ivey continues his trajectory from last season?

2.)What if Cade, who is already an MVP candidate, takes yet another leap?(he has improved eveey season.)

3.)What if Duren, who turns 22 when the season starts, builds on his damn good playoff debut?(11.8/10.7/1.7)

4.)What if Holland breaks out this season, with his shooting carrying over from summer league?

5.)What if Robinson has a great season from deep because he's playing with Cade?

6.)What if Beasley has another great season from deep?(if resigned)

7.)What does a fully healthy+full off-season+training camp Ausar Thompson look like?

This upcoming season could be one for the record books.

[Canadafan]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

TheBigLip’s optimism saying the Pistons could also get him a ring

This is exactly where I'm at. If the Pistons resign Beasley, they are absolutely a title threat.

Yes, they are young. Yes they have just begun to scratch their potential, but the sheer depth of talent on the roster before Beasley is awesome. You add the leagues #1-3 shooter, it gets ridiculous.

Last year, after Ivey went down, if Beasley had an off night, Cade had to drop 30+ basically. If Cade had an off night, it was rough. That is absolutely not the case anymore.

Maybe my optimism is getting the better of me, and having Harris still as the teams starting PF, with no clear backup is worrisome, but if Beasley resigns, that means all the team has lost is THJ, and Schroder, and Tek, while gaining Robinson/LeVert/Ivey is ridiculous.

I'll ask these questions;

1.)What if Ivey continues his trajectory from last season?

2.)What if Cade, who is already an MVP candidate, takes yet another leap?(he has improved eveey season.)

3.)What if Duren, who turns 22 when the season starts, builds on his damn good playoff debut?(11.8/10.7/1.7)

4.)What if Holland breaks out this season, with his shooting carrying over from summer league?

5.)What if Robinson has a great season from deep because he's playing with Cade?

6.)What if Beasley has another great season from deep?(if resigned)

7.)What does a fully healthy+full off-season+training camp Ausar Thompson look like?

This upcoming season could be one for the record books.

And don't forget, Stew instead of Reed!

[zeebneeb]

TheBigLip’s optimism saying the Pistons could also get him a ring

This is exactly where I'm at. If the Pistons resign Beasley, they are absolutely a title threat.

Yes, they are young. Yes they have just begun to scratch their potential, but the sheer depth of talent on the roster before Beasley is awesome. You add the leagues #1-3 shooter, it gets ridiculous.

Last year, after Ivey went down, if Beasley had an off night, Cade had to drop 30+ basically. If Cade had an off night, it was rough. That is absolutely not the case anymore.

Maybe my optimism is getting the better of me, and having Harris still as the teams starting PF, with no clear backup is worrisome, but if Beasley resigns, that means all the team has lost is THJ, and Schroder, and Tek, while gaining Robinson/LeVert/Ivey is ridiculous.

I'll ask these questions;

1.)What if Ivey continues his trajectory from last season?

2.)What if Cade, who is already an MVP candidate, takes yet another leap?(he has improved eveey season.)

3.)What if Duren, who turns 22 when the season starts, builds on his damn good playoff debut?(11.8/10.7/1.7)

4.)What if Holland breaks out this season, with his shooting carrying over from summer league?

5.)What if Robinson has a great season from deep because he's playing with Cade?

6.)What if Beasley has another great season from deep?(if resigned)

7.)What does a fully healthy+full off-season+training camp Ausar Thompson look like?

This upcoming season could be one for the record books.

And don't forget, Stew instead of Reed!

I left off a few things, which I think drives the point home even further.

I firmly believe that if Stewart was healthy, the Pistons beat the Knicks in last years series, and I'm not even gonna get into the horrendous non-call, that swung the series either.

8.)LeVert. He can truly thrive off the bench, and is playing with a true, big, lead guard. He won't have to worry about switches because of micro-guards he's been playing with. He is gonna be playing with maybe 2 unreal three-point shooters, and can play his true game, of driving the hoop, and if he gets doubled, or collapsed on, 4apg for his career.

This team, can be special next season.

[Kilo]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

Also would open up S&T options BUT that would mean Beas signing a three year deal with $7.2 as the basis.

[Snakebites]

The only teams reported to have talked to Beasley are the Knicks and Cavs. If he wants to take the minimum and make a title run he’ll have that option.

Noteworthy that we haven’t been reported to have talked to him, though I suspect we have.

Also would open up S&T options BUT that would mean Beas signing a three year deal with $7.2 as the basis.

Yeah sign and trade isn’t that interesting a path for me in this situation.

[MortSahlfan]

I want Beasley to stay in Detroit, but TL said "We moved on" during a press conference when he could have played it safe and said "We don't want to comment on any ongoing investigation" and then Ron Holland gets Beasley's jersey very soon after.

[Snakebites]

I want Beasley to stay in Detroit, but TL said "We moved on" during a press conference when he could have played it safe and said "We don't want to comment on any ongoing investigation" and then Ron Holland gets Beasley's jersey very soon after.

To be fair, it doesn’t sound like any other team thought he was coming back either based on how teams seem to be scrambling. If I had to guess I’d say there was a stretch there where it really looked like he wasn’t coming back.

I don’t know if anything we saw or heard indicates that the bridge is burned. The number thing is symbolic and easily reversible.

[zeebneeb]

I'm reading now that Beasley isn't 100% cleared, he's just not the target of an investigation anymore.

That means a bunch. Any team that does sign him, is still going to risk issues until he is cleared. That may be the reason he hasn't been signed immediately by anyone. Beasley is a prize for any contending team right now.

[bstein14]

I'm reading now that Beasley isn't 100% cleared, he's just not the target of an investigation anymore.

That means a bunch. Any team that does sign him, is still going to risk issues until he is cleared. That may be the reason he hasn't been signed immediately by anyone. Beasley is a prize for any contending team right now.

It's pretty interesting for sure, he's not longer the "target" of the investigation but he's still connected to the case in a manor in which he may have shared information with someone he shouldn't have and the NBA may have to determine their path forward with this.

If he himself was gambling on anything or directly put a message out to someone to have monetary gain he's likely be charged if the evidence showed something like this happening.

Its more likely that he told someone who then told someone who then used that information to their advantage. It likely became impossible to incriminate Beasley without him admitting and there being no direct proof unless someone was to come out and testify against him.

That said, he certainly isn't entirely in the free and clear just yet just because "he's no longer the target of a federal investigation"....

[Snakebites]

Hmm, that defintely could be impactful, and might also explain why we’ve only heard vague murmurings of team interest thus far.

[Cowology]

Sooo... "not the target" could be interpreted to mean he's cooperating with the investigation. They aren't interested in pursuing charges against him, provided he helps them nab a bigger fish.

Or not. Just hypothosizing for fun.

[Mr Peanut]

Starting to feel like the recent Shams piece was just generated by Beasley's lawyers to drum up some interest for a new contract. Understandably teams will still be somewhat hesitant if he remains under some form of investigation. Also wonder if Silver/his henchmen are in the background telling teams to steer clear until it's all worked through. Conspiracy theories are running wild.

[Billl]

It's actually kinda hard not to think that gamblers wouldn't have people out there trying to get info about professional athletes from social situations and interactions. It's not like you have to convince the guy to throw a game or something at this point. With all the prop bets, all the info you really need to know is something like "he's usually dancing with hot women at the club, but last night he was sitting down down in a booth and walked a little gingerly when he went to the bathroom." So you bet the under on rebounds of FT attempts the next game because he might be avoiding contact. It's not 100%, but vegas makes all their money on small odds spreads in their favor.

[MortSahlfan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281764/Pistons-Wolves-Have-Recently-Contacted-Malik-Beasley

[Snakebites]

Starting to feel like the recent Shams piece was just generated by Beasley's lawyers to drum up some interest for a new contract. Understandably teams will still be somewhat hesitant if he remains under some form of investigation. Also wonder if Silver/his henchmen are in the background telling teams to steer clear until it's all worked through. Conspiracy theories are running wild.

I'm sure there's been some sort of movement on the case that the agent was able to spin as him no longer being the target. Without better information it's impossible to know exactly.

But yeah, it's apparent he's not yet out of the woods. And even if cleared the league may find something in his conduct objectionable enough to suspend him. All of these will play into a teams potential interest in him.

Nobody with the ability to outbid us has been reported as having interest in him. But who knows what we're even able to offer? We just don't know exactly how damaged he is as a potential asset.

[ComboGuardCity]

I understand investigations can take a while but if he comes out clean from this, there has to be repercussions.