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Larry_Russell wrote:jmr07019 wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Pot calling kettle black?
I'm sure that's a 100% dumb post for obvious reasons.
We’ll see if Portland improves by 25 games now that Simons is gone
Portland is absolutely improved with Simons gone.
Fierce1 wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Time will tell.
I just hope you're man enough to admit you were wrong if Tatum ends up playing in March.
And it's really funny you find it a dumb post when you posted a thousand Jaylen Brown trade proposals and you end up making lame excuses after JB is still a Celtic.
If Tatum is playing in march I will still be very firmly in the camp that it would be **** absolutely idiotic for him to do so from a personal standpoint and also from a team standpoint.
Trade proposals are not the same as the stuff you are posting.
There is much debate around the league about if the Celtics should have traded brown. There is none comparing Haliburton bonding with Clark as a barometer of if the team, doctors, tatum plan on him playing this upcoming season.
Just stop
Why should I stop when you went a thousand posts about trading JB?
What I noticed is its all about you.
You said you kept making JB trade proposals because it's what you think is best for the Celtics.
Now you're saying if Tatum plays then it's idiotic.
Guess what, you're not Grousbeck, Chisholm, or Brad Stevens.
What you think is best or what you believe should be done is just your opinion.
JB didn't get traded.
Instead of just saying you were wrong about expecting JB to get traded because it's what you think it's best, you make lame excuses.
You've gone off the rails ever since draft night ended and JB is still a Celtic.
Just because your posts are getting nastier, that doesn't mean it makes you right!
Larry_Russell wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:
If Tatum is playing in march I will still be very firmly in the camp that it would be **** absolutely idiotic for him to do so from a personal standpoint and also from a team standpoint.
Trade proposals are not the same as the stuff you are posting.
There is much debate around the league about if the Celtics should have traded brown. There is none comparing Haliburton bonding with Clark as a barometer of if the team, doctors, tatum plan on him playing this upcoming season.
Just stop
Why should I stop when you went a thousand posts about trading JB?
What I noticed is its all about you.
You said you kept making JB trade proposals because it's what you think is best for the Celtics.
Now you're saying if Tatum plays then it's idiotic.
Guess what, you're not Grousbeck, Chisholm, or Brad Stevens.
What you think is best or what you believe should be done is just your opinion.
JB didn't get traded.
Instead of just saying you were wrong about expecting JB to get traded because it's what you think it's best, you make lame excuses.
You've gone off the rails ever since draft night ended and JB is still a Celtic.
Just because your posts are getting nastier, that doesn't mean it makes you right!
I dont understand why you cannot understand that because I felt that Brown should have been traded (still do) and I posted hypoethical trades in the TRADE THREAD, that does not constitute me being wrong. I still think they should trade him.
And neither of those things has to do with YOU claiming that Haliburton said he was bonding with Clark meant that he wasnt going to play this upcoming season, but tatum was rehabbing so that 100% meant that he was and that the Org had no say and Brad had no say in making Tatum sit even if he wanted to play if they felt that was best for Jayson and for the franchise moving forwrad.
And then you doubled down
and tripled down
Larry_Russell wrote:Fierce1 wrote:A player, Haliburton, with really no plans of playing next season is talking about bonding with Caitlin Clark.
Tatum has been working out, intensely, for a while now.
That's not really consistent with someone who's planning to not play for 17 months.
And Tatum tells Brad Stevens if he will play or not, not the other way around.
Thinking that Brad is the employer and Tatum is the employee is being naive.
what a dumb post
Fierce1 wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Why should I stop when you went a thousand posts about trading JB?
What I noticed is its all about you.
You said you kept making JB trade proposals because it's what you think is best for the Celtics.
Now you're saying if Tatum plays then it's idiotic.
Guess what, you're not Grousbeck, Chisholm, or Brad Stevens.
What you think is best or what you believe should be done is just your opinion.
JB didn't get traded.
Instead of just saying you were wrong about expecting JB to get traded because it's what you think it's best, you make lame excuses.
You've gone off the rails ever since draft night ended and JB is still a Celtic.
Just because your posts are getting nastier, that doesn't mean it makes you right!
I dont understand why you cannot understand that because I felt that Brown should have been traded (still do) and I posted hypoethical trades in the TRADE THREAD, that does not constitute me being wrong. I still think they should trade him.
And neither of those things has to do with YOU claiming that Haliburton said he was bonding with Clark meant that he wasnt going to play this upcoming season, but tatum was rehabbing so that 100% meant that he was and that the Org had no say and Brad had no say in making Tatum sit even if he wanted to play if they felt that was best for Jayson and for the franchise moving forwrad.
And then you doubled down
and tripled down
Just stop.
You will be more credible if you just take accountability.
Just admit that you were wrong about the Celtics trading JB.
The Celtics made it clear that they are not trading JB and you kept making JB trade proposals.
Guess you were not paying attention to what's happening with Tatum and the Celtics over the years.
Reason why Tatum has not missed a lot of games, before the achilles injury, is because Tatum does not want to miss games and Brad and the Celtics will not stop Tatum from playing if Tatum wants to play.
I'm not disagreeing with you about Tatum sitting out a year because that's the safe move.
But I'm telling you it's not up to Brad, the Celtics, or the fans.
If doctors clear Tatum and Tatum wants to play, no one is stopping him.
Fierce1 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Fierce1 wrote:That's where you're wrong.
Hali is already in the news because he's bonding with Caitlin Clark.
Dame is not in the news because he's going to be the GM of his alma mater, Weber State.
This is not the 80s where the internet did not exist.
Fans will know what NBA players are up to because of social media.
The argument of we have no clue what NBA players are doing will not fly in this day age.
No need to take a break. Your posts are getting dumber and dumber. You said Tatum was doing rehab 6 days a week. You have no clue what Hali and Dame are doing for rehab. Tatum was just at Bradley Beal's wedding. What does where the players go have anything to do with anything?
Like I said, common sense.
Other players that are not playing the entire 2026 season are not doing what Tatum is doing.
And you just proved my point, Tatum is at Beal's wedding, so that eliminates your theory that fans don't know what NBA players are doing.
My posts are getting dumber?
You told us there was no way Fox was getting a max extension from the Spurs and the Spurs will end up trading Fox.
When another poster brought that subject up, you said the Spurs are dumb.
Instead of just admitting you were wrong about Fox and the Spurs, you made it "the Spurs are dumb".
Didn't you also say Simons won't be a Celtic after July 6?
playa-hater wrote:It's been longer than a week now since brad stevens acquired a wing player.. What the f is he waiting for???
Celts17Pride wrote:Ryen Russillo rumor on Ben Simmons:
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/3x-nba-all-star-could-be-leaving-clippers-for-boston-celtics
A new remark by Ryen Russillo of The Ringer made it seem like he knows where Simmons is signing already.
"He's in Boston now," Russillo said after his name came up in a conversation with rapper Freddie Gibbs.
Russillo has ties to the Boston area and previously worked for Comcast Sportsnet New England, so he could be on to something regarding the former Clippers point-center.
Celts17Pride wrote:Ryen Russillo rumor on Ben Simmons:
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/3x-nba-all-star-could-be-leaving-clippers-for-boston-celtics
A new remark by Ryen Russillo of The Ringer made it seem like he knows where Simmons is signing already.
"He's in Boston now," Russillo said after his name came up in a conversation with rapper Freddie Gibbs.
Russillo has ties to the Boston area and previously worked for Comcast Sportsnet New England, so he could be on to something regarding the former Clippers point-center.
Celts17Pride wrote:Brett Siegel rumor on Anfernee Simons:
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/celtics-rumors-boston-seeking-anfernee-161448584.html
The Boston Celtics continue to weigh their options with guard Anfernee Simons as the 2025-26 NBA season approaches. According to ClutchPoints’ NBA insider Brett Siegel, Boston has established clear priorities should they decide to move the 26-year-old guard, though no trade appears imminent before training camp.
Siegel reported that Boston’s front office has three primary goals in mind regarding a potential Simons deal.
“Three goals exist for the Celtics right now. Aside from remaining competitive and finding ways to further cut down on their overall tax bill, Boston wants to maintain financial flexibility. Simons is in the final year of his contract and making $27.6 million, giving the Celtics a large buffer to work with and potentially add depth to their roster during the upcoming season.”
Boston’s preference in any trade is to expand its overall depth while avoiding long-term contracts, unless the player acquired is considered a direct contributor to the team’s future outlook for 2026-27.
The approach mirrors the franchise’s strategy in 2023, when they brought in Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis on deals that balanced financial considerations with immediate competitiveness.
Celts17Pride wrote:Chris Mannix rumor regarding Anfernee Simons:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/anfernee-simons-trade-rumors-gets-important-twist-for-celtics/ar-AA1LkgTz?ocid=BingNewsSerp
“The sense I’m getting right now is (that) if the Celtics want to move off of Anfernee Simons, they’re gonna have to attach a draft pick to him. Now, maybe that means a couple of second-round picks.”
redslastlaugh wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Chris Mannix rumor regarding Anfernee Simons:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/anfernee-simons-trade-rumors-gets-important-twist-for-celtics/ar-AA1LkgTz?ocid=BingNewsSerp
“The sense I’m getting right now is (that) if the Celtics want to move off of Anfernee Simons, they’re gonna have to attach a draft pick to him. Now, maybe that means a couple of second-round picks.”
It's really difficult to get value for your players when everyone knows you have to sell.
The idea that what we acquired Jrue for Rob Williams (healthy at time), Brogdon (disgruntled but coming off 6MOY), a GSW pick in 2024 that became a late lottery pick, & a 2029 unprotected Celtics first, and we have traded him straight up for Simons who we don't want and deleting him will cost another first or a couple of seconds - > This is not great business, not at all.
Brad really got screwed that Wyc authorized 7-8 extensions way into the tax and then turned around immediately to hang a FOR SALE sign.
This is nothing against Jrue who was great in his two years, but when we moved off late 30's Paul and KG we got tons of value, and this time we havent even netted a single asset, and we just keep adding sweeteners at basically every step down
Celts17Pride wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Chris Mannix rumor regarding Anfernee Simons:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/anfernee-simons-trade-rumors-gets-important-twist-for-celtics/ar-AA1LkgTz?ocid=BingNewsSerp
“The sense I’m getting right now is (that) if the Celtics want to move off of Anfernee Simons, they’re gonna have to attach a draft pick to him. Now, maybe that means a couple of second-round picks.”
It's really difficult to get value for your players when everyone knows you have to sell.
The idea that what we acquired Jrue for Rob Williams (healthy at time), Brogdon (disgruntled but coming off 6MOY), a GSW pick in 2024 that became a late lottery pick, & a 2029 unprotected Celtics first, and we have traded him straight up for Simons who we don't want and deleting him will cost another first or a couple of seconds - > This is not great business, not at all.
Brad really got screwed that Wyc authorized 7-8 extensions way into the tax and then turned around immediately to hang a FOR SALE sign.
This is nothing against Jrue who was great in his two years, but when we moved off late 30's Paul and KG we got tons of value, and this time we havent even netted a single asset, and we just keep adding sweeteners at basically every step down
Brad Stevens made the Simons trade mainly just to get off of Jrue Holiday's $104 million. Still a great deal, Stevens was able to off-load Jrue's money.
redslastlaugh wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:
It's really difficult to get value for your players when everyone knows you have to sell.
The idea that what we acquired Jrue for Rob Williams (healthy at time), Brogdon (disgruntled but coming off 6MOY), a GSW pick in 2024 that became a late lottery pick, & a 2029 unprotected Celtics first, and we have traded him straight up for Simons who we don't want and deleting him will cost another first or a couple of seconds - > This is not great business, not at all.
Brad really got screwed that Wyc authorized 7-8 extensions way into the tax and then turned around immediately to hang a FOR SALE sign.
This is nothing against Jrue who was great in his two years, but when we moved off late 30's Paul and KG we got tons of value, and this time we havent even netted a single asset, and we just keep adding sweeteners at basically every step down
Brad Stevens made the Simons trade mainly just to get off of Jrue Holiday's $104 million. Still a great deal, Stevens was able to off-load Jrue's money.
Yea I hear that, but somebody screwed up along the way. If you pay two firsts and two players to acquire a borderline HOF level player, and you sign him to a 4 yr extension, and win a title(!) showing his worth. But that 15 months after inking the extension, you need to trade him, why is merely getting off the deal for an expiring a win? It's Jrue Holiday, you paid a lot to get him, and two years later, it's winning to just get off the money?
Either you paid him way too much or you overcooked your books and lost your leverage. Ideally, on a fair deal, in a fair transaction, Jrue is worth some value
GreenBlooded wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Brad Stevens made the Simons trade mainly just to get off of Jrue Holiday's $104 million. Still a great deal, Stevens was able to off-load Jrue's money.
Yea I hear that, but somebody screwed up along the way. If you pay two firsts and two players to acquire a borderline HOF level player, and you sign him to a 4 yr extension, and win a title(!) showing his worth. But that 15 months after inking the extension, you need to trade him, why is merely getting off the deal for an expiring a win? It's Jrue Holiday, you paid a lot to get him, and two years later, it's winning to just get off the money?
Either you paid him way too much or you overcooked your books and lost your leverage. Ideally, on a fair deal, in a fair transaction, Jrue is worth some value
Tatum's injury changed the math and timing moving Jrue.
Hal14 wrote:GreenBlooded wrote:redslastlaugh wrote:Yea I hear that, but somebody screwed up along the way. If you pay two firsts and two players to acquire a borderline HOF level player, and you sign him to a 4 yr extension, and win a title(!) showing his worth. But that 15 months after inking the extension, you need to trade him, why is merely getting off the deal for an expiring a win? It's Jrue Holiday, you paid a lot to get him, and two years later, it's winning to just get off the money?
Either you paid him way too much or you overcooked your books and lost your leverage. Ideally, on a fair deal, in a fair transaction, Jrue is worth some value
Tatum's injury changed the math and timing moving Jrue.
This article was like 2 months before Tatum's injury:
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/03/24/celtics-grousbeck-no-nba-team-will-stay-in-second-apron-more-than-two-years/