Warriors Free Agency 2025

[xdrta+]

True, and in addition to this, I’m pretty sure his (TJD) salary is fully guaranteed, so it wouldn’t help anything financially. It would just be dead money against the cap.

TJD is non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 1/10/26.

[AirP.]

Overall, no movement by either side.

The Warriors currently have six open roster spots … most in the NBA.

Yet numerous rival teams continue to operate under the off-cited premise that Al Horford, Melton and Gary Payton II will fill three of those spots and second-round pick Will Richard is expected to fill a fourth.

In an interesting situation, although his name has come up connected to GS, I don't seem to remember anyone mentioning that he's waiting and possibly turning down opportunities with other teams to try to get to GS.... his brother worked well with Butler in Miami. He's the twin that got the contract from Charolotte while his brother did not.

Another name on the Warriors' list of bench targets, sources say, is Cody Martin.

The veteran swingman has received interest from numerous playoff teams this summer but is said to be waiting to see whether an opportunity with Golden State proves to be his most attractive option ... or if it's better to let the season start and see what opportunities arise after training camps begin.

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[statsman]

Overall, no movement by either side.

The Warriors currently have six open roster spots … most in the NBA.

Yet numerous rival teams continue to operate under the off-cited premise that Al Horford, Melton and Gary Payton II will fill three of those spots and second-round pick Will Richard is expected to fill a fourth.

The only reason I can think of Richard taking a spot is either (a) they plan to stay below the 1st apron as a hard cap, or (b) they plan to sign their FAs, and in the event some team sneaks in an offer sheet for Kuminga, they can buy a bit more space below the 2nd apron if they decide to match. Seems like (b) is a long-shot, but I guess it has to be planned for.

[AirP.]

Overall, no movement by either side.

The Warriors currently have six open roster spots … most in the NBA.

Yet numerous rival teams continue to operate under the off-cited premise that Al Horford, Melton and Gary Payton II will fill three of those spots and second-round pick Will Richard is expected to fill a fourth.

The only reason I can think of Richard taking a spot is either (a) they plan to stay below the 1st apron as a hard cap, or (b) they plan to sign their FAs, and in the event some team sneaks in an offer sheet for Kuminga, they can buy a bit more space below the 2nd apron if they decide to match. Seems like (b) is a long-shot, but I guess it has to be planned for.

If Kuminga takes the QO and you give a 2nd rounder a minimum contract, you can give more money to GP2 who can be a decent salary filler in a trade. The hope is Kuminga takes the 2-year contract of course, you can give him more money, but I don't see why they wouldn't try to throw all the money they can to GP2's contract to give them a tradable contract that is expiring.

[EvanZ]

I wish the Warriors could somehow acquire Kenrich Williams.

[AirP.]

So, let's say Kuminga signs the QO so he can have veto power for a trade. It's expected Horford, Melton and GP2 will be signing putting the roster at 13 out of the 14 minimum they need to sign. We've heard Brogdon's name and recently Cody Martin who is a defensive specialist. If GS decides to overpay GP2 to have a decent sized tradable contract, it would make sense to sign Martin to learn the system and then take over GP2s role if he's moved. Brogdon may be the better player but outside of injuries, how much would he play in the backcourt with Curry, Podz and Melton already on the roster?

If GS overpays GP2, you could still look to trade Kuminga and his contract if he ok's the trade (~8 mil contract), but if you have GP2 being overpaid (9-16 mil - not sure how much will be available under the 2nd apron with the Bird rights) you can stack Kuminga's contract with other contracts depending on who you'd bring back in the trade or not have to deal with Kuminga saying no and use GP2's and possibly other contracts to make the trade you want.

I think GS is playing this off-season correctly to maximize what they can have come playoffs; it just isn't much fun in the summer to have to wait and quite possibly some issues with Kuminga getting or not getting minutes right before he gets to free agency as an unrestricted fa.

[whatisacenter]

So, let's say Kuminga signs the QO so he can have veto power for a trade. It's expected Horford, Melton and GP2 will be signing putting the roster at 13 out of the 14 minimum they need to sign. We've heard Brogdon's name and recently Cody Martin who is a defensive specialist. If GS decides to overpay GP2 to have a decent sized tradable contract, it would make sense to sign Martin to learn the system and then take over GP2s role if he's moved. Brogdon may be the better player but outside of injuries, how much would he play in the backcourt with Curry, Podz and Melton already on the roster?

If GS overpays GP2, you could still look to trade Kuminga and his contract if he ok's the trade (~8 mil contract), but if you have GP2 being overpaid (9-16 mil - not sure how much will be available under the 2nd apron with the Bird rights) you can stack Kuminga's contract with other contracts depending on who you'd bring back in the trade or not have to deal with Kuminga saying no and use GP2's and possibly other contracts to make the trade you want.

I think GS is playing this off-season correctly to maximize what they can have come playoffs; it just isn't much fun in the summer to have to wait and quite possibly some issues with Kuminga getting or not getting minutes right before he gets to free agency as an unrestricted fa.

Signing GP2 at an inflated contract seems wild to me.

I can’t think of a team that has purposefully overpaid a player strictly to use the contract as a salary ballast.

[statsman]

Signing GP2 at an inflated contract seems wild to me.

I can’t think of a team that has purposefully overpaid a player strictly to use the contract as a salary ballast.

"Wild" is a pleasant description to use here. Kudos to you for having the restraint I lack on this topic.

[EvanZ]

I mean in a very real sense the Warriors are overpaying JK to do exactly this. They don't even want to give him two guaranteed years because they are basically making him an expired contract.

[AirP.]

So, let's say Kuminga signs the QO so he can have veto power for a trade. It's expected Horford, Melton and GP2 will be signing putting the roster at 13 out of the 14 minimum they need to sign. We've heard Brogdon's name and recently Cody Martin who is a defensive specialist. If GS decides to overpay GP2 to have a decent sized tradable contract, it would make sense to sign Martin to learn the system and then take over GP2s role if he's moved. Brogdon may be the better player but outside of injuries, how much would he play in the backcourt with Curry, Podz and Melton already on the roster?

If GS overpays GP2, you could still look to trade Kuminga and his contract if he ok's the trade (~8 mil contract), but if you have GP2 being overpaid (9-16 mil - not sure how much will be available under the 2nd apron with the Bird rights) you can stack Kuminga's contract with other contracts depending on who you'd bring back in the trade or not have to deal with Kuminga saying no and use GP2's and possibly other contracts to make the trade you want.

I think GS is playing this off-season correctly to maximize what they can have come playoffs; it just isn't much fun in the summer to have to wait and quite possibly some issues with Kuminga getting or not getting minutes right before he gets to free agency as an unrestricted fa.

Signing GP2 at an inflated contract seems wild to me.

I can’t think of a team that has purposefully overpaid a player strictly to use the contract as a salary ballast.

Maimi did this with Goran Dragic and Myers Leonard in 2020. Dragic was done at age 33/34 especially after his foot injury that kept him out of the finals and Miami gave him and Leonard a 2-year contract to have a moveable contract, Dragic turned into contract filler in the Kyle Lowery move and Leonard had his little streaming situation where Miami just offloaded him quickly and I think it cost them to do that.

If an owner is willing to spend the extra money (Miami wasn't in the tax like GS is, so it's a much bigger hit for GS), just overpay a player you have Bird rights to have more trade options. From before, there needed to be a handshake agreement that the player would waive their 1 year no trade clause for the extra money. They tried to send Dragic to Toronto for Lowry during the next season, Toronto wanted too much so (Dragic's contract and Herro on rookie contract while Miami was pushing Dragic or Robinson) Miami did a S&T that summer for Lowry.

It does sound odd to overpay a player, but when you have to basically match salaries because you don't have cap space, you do what you can to create moveable contracts.

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[Onus]

I don’t get the hang up for overpaying gp2 for a tradeable salary ballast and not saying the exact same thing for jk with a 1+1.

I think id prefer martin over brogdon just to get some wing depth even though in a vacuum brogdon might be better if he can stay healthy.

[EvanZ]

I missed that we signed Taevion Kinsey. Crazy athlete and great passer. I thought he was a draft sleeper. Can’t shoot though.

[whatisacenter]

I mean in a very real sense the Warriors are overpaying JK to do exactly this. They don't even want to give him two guaranteed years because they are basically making him an expired contract.

Teams want JK at the salary that you think is an overpay.

[statsman]

I mean in a very real sense the Warriors are overpaying JK to do exactly this. They don't even want to give him two guaranteed years because they are basically making him an expired contract.

Teams want JK at the salary that you think is an overpay.

The Kings were reportedly willing to offer JK 3/63, which would be $20M for the first season. But the price for that is the Warriors had to take back Malik Monk, a mediocre starter and an overpaid 6th/7th man, along with a heavily protected 1st that honestly isn't enough payment to cover Monk's contract. The recent report indicating the Kings have been unable to move Monk just shows how much JK was worth to the Kings. Not very much.

[whatisacenter]

I mean in a very real sense the Warriors are overpaying JK to do exactly this. They don't even want to give him two guaranteed years because they are basically making him an expired contract.

Teams want JK at the salary that you think is an overpay.

The Kings were reportedly willing to offer JK 3/63, which would be $20M for the first season. But the price for that is the Warriors had to take back Malik Monk, a mediocre starter and an overpaid 6th/7th man, along with a heavily protected 1st that honestly isn't enough payment to cover Monk's contract. The recent report indicating the Kings have been unable to move Monk just shows how much JK was worth to the Kings. Not very much.

Suns were reportedly offering 4/90 which is 22.5M.

JK at around $25M, give or take, is a reasonable contract.

[Onus]

Teams want JK at the salary that you think is an overpay.

The Kings were reportedly willing to offer JK 3/63, which would be $20M for the first season. But the price for that is the Warriors had to take back Malik Monk, a mediocre starter and an overpaid 6th/7th man, along with a heavily protected 1st that honestly isn't enough payment to cover Monk's contract. The recent report indicating the Kings have been unable to move Monk just shows how much JK was worth to the Kings. Not very much.

Suns were reportedly offering 4/90 which is 22.5M.

JK at around $25M, give or take, is a reasonable contract.

They weren’t even willing to give up Ryan Dunn for jk at that price.

[watch1958]

I missed that we signed Taevion Kinsey. Crazy athlete and great passer. I thought he was a draft sleeper. Can’t shoot though.

He had decent numbers on 3’s in the GLEAGUE. .375 overall in two seasons. (106/282)

[whatisacenter]

The Kings were reportedly willing to offer JK 3/63, which would be $20M for the first season. But the price for that is the Warriors had to take back Malik Monk, a mediocre starter and an overpaid 6th/7th man, along with a heavily protected 1st that honestly isn't enough payment to cover Monk's contract. The recent report indicating the Kings have been unable to move Monk just shows how much JK was worth to the Kings. Not very much.

Suns were reportedly offering 4/90 which is 22.5M.

JK at around $25M, give or take, is a reasonable contract.

They weren’t even willing to give up Ryan Dunn for jk at that price.

Cool.

Not sure what some of you were expecting the Warriors to get back for JK in a S&T but I haven't been too surprised.

[Senchu]

Why would JK want a veto power is what I dont understand.
If he gets traded for Giannis or Lauri or w/e he will get away from Warriors and be the guy aka tank commander he wants to be.
Why have a veto?
Isn’t that what he wants?

[EvanZ]

Why would JK want a veto power is what I dont understand.
If he gets traded for Giannis or Lauri or w/e he will get away from Warriors and be the guy aka tank commander he wants to be.
Why have a veto?
Isn’t that what he wants?

Yeah that's the same issue I have with his "camp". It just doesn't make sense.

I think his biggest fear and maybe closest to the truth is that the Warriors literally view him as an expiring contract and that the only way they can trade him is as salary filler. So that means basically any team trading for JK would just be trading for the picks and not pick up the team option on that second year.

But my thing is, who cares?! If that's the worst case scenario for JK, it's literally still better than accepting the QO. In that situation he'd simply be a UFA just like he would be if he takes the QO.

JK wants more guaranteed money, clearly, but that just makes it harder to trade him.