Celtics/Sac/Mavs

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Mavs get Monk/Carter/Saric/Minny 30 first/Spurs 27 first rights if it conveys

Kings get Brown/Washington

Celtics get Ellis/Keegan/Gafford/DDR

Mavs do it for a scorer/facilitator in Monk, take a flyer on Carter and potentially two firsts.

Kings do it to have a big three of Brown/Sabonis/LaVine. They immediately sign Lyles and Westbrook to fill out the roster. They keep all their own firsts.

Celtics do it to reset deeper and younger around Tatum when he returns. DDR holds it down this year and his contract drops off 14 million if his TO isn’t picked up which helps extend Keegan/Ellis. Or, maybe DDR sticks around as a bench scorer when Tatum returns.

Flame away. I’m bored.

[Gant]

Brown is Jaylen Brown? If so consider yourself appropriately flamed to a crisp.

[brackdan70]

I can’t flame enough without getting banned.
I’ll jus ask why would the Celtics do this?it seems if those picks are on the Table they need to be going to the Celtics to approach fairness.
Brown is about a year and a half older than Tatum. They are on the same timeline so resetting to get younger and worse doesn’t make any sense.

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I can’t flame enough without getting banned.
I’ll jus ask why would the Celtics do this?it seems if those picks are on the Table they need to be going to the Celtics to approach fairness.
Brown is about a yearly and a half older than Tatum. They are on the same timeline so resetting to get younger and worse doesn’t make any sense.

Depth. The new NBA team building fade in the apron era. Have three guys making 150m’ish soon is tough to put a team around. Keegan/Ellis/Gafford around Tatum works IMO. And if Boston is ever going to move Brown, now is the best time.

[brackdan70]

I can’t flame enough without getting banned.
I’ll jus ask why would the Celtics do this?it seems if those picks are on the Table they need to be going to the Celtics to approach fairness.
Brown is about a yearly and a half older than Tatum. They are on the same timeline so resetting to get younger and worse doesn’t make any sense.

Depth. The new NBA team building fade in the apron era. Have three guys making 150m’ish soon is tough to put a team around. Keegan/Ellis/Gafford around Tatum works IMO. And if Boston is ever going to move Brown, now is the best time.

I don’t think that team can contend though. That’s the Celtics goal. I’d assume Tatum asks for a trade if the Celtics pull some crap like this. You need more than one star. None of those guys have star potential and are fringe starters.

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I can’t flame enough without getting banned.
I’ll jus ask why would the Celtics do this?it seems if those picks are on the Table they need to be going to the Celtics to approach fairness.
Brown is about a yearly and a half older than Tatum. They are on the same timeline so resetting to get younger and worse doesn’t make any sense.

Depth. The new NBA team building fade in the apron era. Have three guys making 150m’ish soon is tough to put a team around. Keegan/Ellis/Gafford around Tatum works IMO. And if Boston is ever going to move Brown, now is the best time.

I don’t think that team can contend though. That’s the Celtics goal. I’d assume Tatum asks for a trade if the Celtics pull some crap like this. You need more than one star. None of those guys have star potential and are fringe starters.

Star potential I’ll agree. Fringe starters is dead wrong. Keegan and Ellis are both really solid NBA players who can play a winning brand of ball and IMO flank Tatum very well. Ellis would also allow Boston to use White at some point in the future to fill a gap, so there’s flexibility.

I get it’s a wild one. But….

Once Brown is 30 there’s no getting off that deal. Boston would be locked in for the final couple years. Maybe that’s a good thing, maybe it just burns the backend of Tatum’s prime.

[Godaddycurse]

Depth. The new NBA team building fade in the apron era. Have three guys making 150m’ish soon is tough to put a team around. Keegan/Ellis/Gafford around Tatum works IMO. And if Boston is ever going to move Brown, now is the best time.

I don’t think that team can contend though. That’s the Celtics goal. I’d assume Tatum asks for a trade if the Celtics pull some crap like this. You need more than one star. None of those guys have star potential and are fringe starters.

Star potential I’ll agree. Fringe starters is dead wrong. Keegan and Ellis are both really solid NBA players who can play a winning brand of ball and IMO flank Tatum very well. Ellis would also allow Boston to use White at some point in the future to fill a gap, so there’s flexibility.

I get it’s a wild one. But….

Once Brown is 30 there’s no getting off that deal. Boston would be locked in for the final couple years. Maybe that’s a good thing, maybe it just burns the backend of Tatum’s prime.

you're asking them to trade their 2nd star for a bunch of 4th/5th option players, 2 of which need new contracts soon so they wont be cheap either. Its much easier to backfill 5th starters than find a 2nd star next to tatum

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I don’t think that team can contend though. That’s the Celtics goal. I’d assume Tatum asks for a trade if the Celtics pull some crap like this. You need more than one star. None of those guys have star potential and are fringe starters.

Star potential I’ll agree. Fringe starters is dead wrong. Keegan and Ellis are both really solid NBA players who can play a winning brand of ball and IMO flank Tatum very well. Ellis would also allow Boston to use White at some point in the future to fill a gap, so there’s flexibility.

I get it’s a wild one. But….

Once Brown is 30 there’s no getting off that deal. Boston would be locked in for the final couple years. Maybe that’s a good thing, maybe it just burns the backend of Tatum’s prime.

you're asking them to trade their 2nd star for a bunch of 4th/5th option players, 2 of which need new contracts soon so they wont be cheap either. Its much easier to backfill 5th starters than find a 2nd star next to tatum

It’s a flexibility play for sure, and getting 3&D guys to take pressure off Tatum defensively. If Brown made second star type of money Boston would be set but he makes top dollar and the apron era has arrived. Keegan and Ellis and Gafford together might make what Brown does.

Anyways, long shot (haha, undersell) but I do think teams are going to be recalibrating around star contracts (Trae Young) and depth will take a more prominent role.

[redslastlaugh]

Keegan and Keon are going to need new deals, and I imagine their combined ask is going to be equal to Jaylen's number. In the NBA, one quarter is worth more than two dimes and a nickel...

Raps last year traded OG to the Knicks for Quickley and Rj Barrett and that's just got them a one way ticket to nowheresville ...

Mavs get Monk/Carter/Saric/Minny 30 first/Spurs 27 first rights if it conveys

Kings get Brown/Washington

Celtics get Ellis/Keegan/Gafford/DDR

Mavs do it for a scorer/facilitator in Monk, take a flyer on Carter and potentially two firsts.

Kings do it to have a big three of Brown/Sabonis/LaVine. They immediately sign Lyles and Westbrook to fill out the roster. They keep all their own firsts.

Celtics do it to reset deeper and younger around Tatum when he returns. DDR holds it down this year and his contract drops off 14 million if his TO isn’t picked up which helps extend Keegan/Ellis. Or, maybe DDR sticks around as a bench scorer when Tatum returns.

Flame away. I’m bored.

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Keegan and Keon are going to need new deals, and I imagine their combined ask is going to be equal to Jaylen's number. In the NBA, one quarter is worth than two dimes and a nickel...

Raps last year traded OG to the Knicks for Quickley and Rj Barrett and that's just got them a one way ticket to nowheresville ...

In this market? I see Keegan at 25 (Jabari Smith) and Ellis between 10-15.

[hugepatsfan]

“Jaylen Brown’s contract is awful! Celtics need to trade him (to my team) for a bunch of role players!!” - OP

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“Jaylen Brown’s contract is awful! Celtics need to trade him (to my team) for a bunch of role players!!” - OP

Yeah that’s about it. Kings have to take huge risks.

If I was Boston I’d want two unprotected picks from Sac too (26/28). That’d give me a level of optionality that I’d feel comfortable with going into the backside of Tatum’s prime.

[jbk1234]

I don't hate the idea, but I'd cut Dallas out just let each team deal with them separately. The Celtics will end up trading Tatum or Brown in the next 2-3 years, but they're probably going to want to see how Tatum looks after coming back before making that call.

[djFan71]

Slight edit....

BOS: Gafford and Isaac Jones
SAC: Simons, Powell, 2026 2nd from BOS
DAL: Monk, 2026 2nd from BOS

SAC gets off Monk's extra years, can try to resign Simons for just above MLE, if desired.
DAL gets scoring
BOS gets a long term big for their rotation and gets within "pay someone to take Jones" of ducking the tax.

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Slight edit....

BOS: Gafford and Isaac Jones
SAC: Simons, Powell, 2026 2nd from BOS
DAL: Monk, 2026 2nd from BOS

SAC gets off Monk's extra years, can try to resign Simons for just above MLE, if desired.
DAL gets scoring
BOS gets a long term big for their rotation and gets within "pay someone to take Jones" of ducking the tax.

Kings can’t do that. It puts them in the tax.

[theBigLip]

I like Brown, but fact is, he is overpaid. I thought so when he got the max deal, and even more so now.

If he’s so great, then why is this an “off year” for the Celtics?

I don’t necessarily think the OP is a great trade, but Celtics should consider trading Brown

[BK_2020]

Boston should trade Brown even for cost-controlled role players of quality but this trade isn't it. Keegan Murray is a RFA and likely to ask for an overpaid extension based on draft pedigree. Keon Ellis I don't know about but he's 26 year old and 175 lb (!) combo guard who will be UFA. Gafford is a big with limited skills whose team was worse on defense with him on the floor 3 of 4 seasons in his career when he got more than spot minutes. He's got a big extension coming up. What's the upside? Boston needs to get either get good players or bad players and picks, not a bunch of mediocre players about to be paid or already overpaid.

[brackdan70]

Boston should trade Brown even for cost-controlled role players of quality but this trade isn't it. Keegan Murray is a RFA and likely to ask for an overpaid extension based on draft pedigree. Keon Ellis I don't know about but he's 26 year old and 175 lb (!) combo guard who will be UFA. Gafford is a big with limited skills whose team was worse on defense with him on the floor 3 of 4 seasons in his career when he got more than spot minutes. He's got a big extension coming up. What's the upside? Boston needs to get either get good players or bad players and picks, not a bunch of mediocre players about to be paid or already overpaid.

Agree. If they decide to trade Brown, they will want some legit value coming back. Something that will help build around Tatum.
I also think they won’t do it until at least after the 26/27 season if ever.

[brackdan70]

Slight edit....

BOS: Gafford and Isaac Jones
SAC: Simons, Powell, 2026 2nd from BOS
DAL: Monk, 2026 2nd from BOS

SAC gets off Monk's extra years, can try to resign Simons for just above MLE, if desired.
DAL gets scoring
BOS gets a long term big for their rotation and gets within "pay someone to take Jones" of ducking the tax.

Something like this makes much better sense.
One of those second is a best of that probably ends up top 40… I guess that one goes to Dallas?

[Godaddycurse]

Slight edit....

BOS: Gafford and Isaac Jones
SAC: Simons, Powell, 2026 2nd from BOS
DAL: Monk, 2026 2nd from BOS

SAC gets off Monk's extra years, can try to resign Simons for just above MLE, if desired.
DAL gets scoring
BOS gets a long term big for their rotation and gets within "pay someone to take Jones" of ducking the tax.

Kings are better off finding a different 3rd team to get a forward for Gafford instead of an even more exp guard