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Post#882 » by higharc » Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:01 am

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midranger wrote:An unblockable fadeaway midranger? Transition nightmare. Incredible defensively when locked in. Primary ball handler with adequate playmaking ability, but also always looking to attack.

Are we entering Giannis’s Michael Jordan post baseball era?


I think it slowly started in 2022 and has increased since 2024. He's essentially cut out threes, taking fewer charges and relying less on bully-ball and much more on finesse and the more cerebral game. I think his playmaking is more than adequate, if not very good.


He has adequate playmaking but not elite. He only searches for the open player. Elite is when the playmaker creates the mismatch and effectively can pass the ball to this target, while also managing the other players' attemps and fatigue.
To be fair this ability was not developed because our coaches did not coach for this but for "play random" crap. Doesn't mean he is not able to do it.
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Post#883 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:59 am

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midranger wrote:An unblockable fadeaway midranger? Transition nightmare. Incredible defensively when locked in. Primary ball handler with adequate playmaking ability, but also always looking to attack.

Are we entering Giannis’s Michael Jordan post baseball era?


I think it slowly started in 2022 and has increased since 2024. He's essentially cut out threes, taking fewer charges and relying less on bully-ball and much more on finesse and the more cerebral game. I think his playmaking is more than adequate, if not very good.


He has adequate playmaking but not elite. He only searches for the open player. Elite is when the playmaker creates the mismatch and effectively can pass the ball to this target, while also managing the other players' attemps and fatigue.
To be fair this ability was not developed because our coaches did not coach for this but for "play random" crap. Doesn't mean he is not able to do it.


Yes, he's not a pure PG in that sense. Though he flashed signs of that when Dame went down toward the back end of last season and he was in PG mode.
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CharityStripe34 wrote:
midranger wrote:An unblockable fadeaway midranger? Transition nightmare. Incredible defensively when locked in. Primary ball handler with adequate playmaking ability, but also always looking to attack.

Are we entering Giannis’s Michael Jordan post baseball era?


I think it slowly started in 2022 and has increased since 2024. He's essentially cut out threes, taking fewer charges and relying less on bully-ball and much more on finesse and the more cerebral game. I think his playmaking is more than adequate, if not very good.


He has adequate playmaking but not elite. He only searches for the open player. Elite is when the playmaker creates the mismatch and effectively can pass the ball to this target, while also managing the other players' attemps and fatigue.
To be fair this ability was not developed because our coaches did not coach for this but for "play random" crap. Doesn't mean he is not able to do it.


This wasn't developed because Giannis doesn't see the court like elite playmakers. He sees what is in front of him and reacts.

Jokic, LeBron, etc see all 9 other players on the court and manipulate them.
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Post#890 » by higharc » Fri Aug 29, 2025 10:58 am

Doc said he was taking notes of Giannis X&O plays (I highly doubt it) and that he enjoyed the energy of the game. He also said Giannis was playing more within team basketball trying to get his teammates involved while in the nba he needs to do more (meaning initiating probably).
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Post#891 » by fan230 » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:38 am

See Coach Atkinson’s early predictions about how great a player Giannis would be ( he made similar predictions about Steph Curry)

We should have taken Atkinson instead of Griffin; not sure, but I think we also had a chance to take Atkinson and not Doc.

https://www.si.com/nba/bucks/news/bucks-rival-coach-had-prophetic-giannis-antetokounmpo-prediction#:~:text=Jeff%20Teague%2C%20who%20would%20eventually,the%20Hawks%20at%20the%20time.&text=Teague%20revealed%20on%20the%20Club,best%20player%20in%20the%20NBA.
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"Hello everyone, I’m telling you an incredible basketball story, made of randomness, passion and kindness, that happened to my family on August 19th.
We were in Athens on holiday, Carlo (my son) left with a hope: to see Giannis Antetokounmpo play at the Acropolis Tournament (he even brought himself behind the tank top no. 34 on the Bucks).
I had bought tickets for the 20th game Greece-Latvia (only two for me and my son because they were too expensive). The first day, the 19th, I thought I’d pass by the Olympic village, where the Oaka palasport is, to realize the situation and not waste time on the day of the game. Once we got there, we didn't know exactly which direction to take because the village is huge: we go a bit randomly, park the car randomly, go randomly down a slope, we randomly turn right and there... the unexpected wonder: before us we recognize the unmistakable silhouette of a giant: Giannis Antetokounmpo.

We met him, despite the bodyguard saying no. When Giannis saw the children he signaled to come closer. For us he is an absolute legend, we are fascinated by his story, my children and I have watched the film dedicated to him 3 times... I showed him all our admiration, I told him how deep I respect his mother, I told him that Carlo, my son, plays basketball, he listened to me attentively and respectfully, and thanked me, then he chatted with Carlo. He also introduced us his brother Kostas. Then I told him that the next day Carlo and I would go to the match. At that point he told us: "But you are a family, you all have to come, I'm on the tickets."

Imagine our happiness: we had met one of the brightest stars in the NBA, we could express our admiration, took many photos, and we could even be his guests at the game...

The next day we find out where he reserved our seats: next to his family... we saw the mom, the wife with the kids... all "normal" people who know how to preserve their being simple people. This was incredible.

10 days later the emotion is still as much as the desire to share this beautiful basketball story with everyone. It was an educational experience for my kids, they understood how to remain welcoming and kind even if you are a world-class athlete.
Before saying goodbye, he turned to Carlo and said:
"Always listen to your parents, always be busy in school and training, and always take care of your sister."

Obviously I cried like a fountain. In those minutes, besides experiencing an extraordinary emotion, we all had a great lesson in life.
Thank you Giannis! "

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Post#895 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Sep 2, 2025 4:32 pm

Knee soreness already. And camp starts this month. SMH Sure it could be bs to give him a game off but given his history I doubt it.
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Post#896 » by soxperry » Tue Sep 2, 2025 6:02 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Knee soreness already. And camp starts this month. SMH Sure it could be bs to give him a game off but given his history I doubt it.


Giannis has said that he has and will probably always have soreness in the knee that he hyperextended against Atlanta. So i doubt this is anything beyond that and extra caution.
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Post#897 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Sep 2, 2025 6:13 pm

Precisely why I hate that we can't prevent him from playing in these tournaments and never getting a full, proper offseason of rest. It is what it is though. His intense loyalty that keeps him in Milwaukee is the same thing that keeps him committed to these terrible Greek national teams. Kind of shocked that Greece hasn't been able to produce any kind of NBA talent throughout this whole era. Dirk was the same way though in that the next wave of German basketball talent didn't arrive until he was way too old for it to matter.
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Post#898 » by yb90 » Tue Sep 2, 2025 6:30 pm

This seems like a load management issue. Has he played in back to back games? I think he is doing just enough to keep the team afloat.
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Post#899 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Sep 2, 2025 6:31 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Precisely why I hate that we can't prevent him from playing in these tournaments and never getting a full, proper offseason of rest. It is what it is though. His intense loyalty that keeps him in Milwaukee is the same thing that keeps him committed to these terrible Greek national teams. Kind of shocked that Greece hasn't been able to produce any kind of NBA talent throughout this whole era. Dirk was the same way though in that the next wave of German basketball talent didn't arrive until he was way too old for it to matter.


It's maddening because if Giannis was born 10 years earlier or if players like Spanoulis, Papaloukas, Diamantidis, etc. of the prior generation were all in their prime now Greece would be a powerhouse internationally probably on the level of Serbia, Germany and France. The good players we still have are aging vets (Papanikolaou [Rockets], and Sloukas) interspersed with some solid talents like Mitoglou and Samodurov. The rest are Euroleague journeymen and NBA bench warmer types. The saving grace this year as opposed to last year's Olympics and 2022's Euroleague is that the spacing for Giannis is considerably better since they generally have a collection of good shooters around him.

My gut feeling is that he was perfectly fine to play against Bosnia, but Spanoulis (NT coach) gambled that they could win without him which then would've cemented their 1st seed out of the group stage, and he probably wouldn't even have to play against Spain on Thursday. Now they have to win on Thursday to get first and win the group. I don't doubt that he has some general soreness but I'm sure he's fine.
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Post#900 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Sep 2, 2025 6:32 pm

yb90 wrote:This seems like a load management issue. Has he played in back to back games? I think he is doing just enough to keep the team afloat.


He has played, so far, only against Italy and Georgia in the group stage and has sat against Cyprus and now Bosnia, so no he hasn't played any B2B's. During the warm-up tournament in Greece he didn't play in two of the friendlies either.
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