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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#321 » by JonFromVA » Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:38 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:No one has ever asked Strus to be a ball handler though.

And for Steph, there's a reason the Warriors didn't find success until Kerr was hired and moved him to SG, his natural position.

I have a different definition of ballhandler, then. You apparently are defining the concept narrowly enough that it's effectively just PGs and point-forwards.
Well yeah, i don't want Tyson handling the ball or initiating offense lol because the odds of him setting his teammate up for a bucket are just as likely as him dribbling it off his shoe out of bounds.


When Mitchell gets doubled ... can Tyson catch a pass, take a few dribbles, and get the ball to whoever is open?

Can he dribble the ball up the floor at times so Mitchell doesn't have to?

Can he attack, draw the D, and move the ball?

The bar isn't super high ...
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#322 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:29 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
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toooskies wrote:I have a different definition of ballhandler, then. You apparently are defining the concept narrowly enough that it's effectively just PGs and point-forwards.
Well yeah, i don't want Tyson handling the ball or initiating offense lol because the odds of him setting his teammate up for a bucket are just as likely as him dribbling it off his shoe out of bounds.


When Mitchell gets doubled ... can Tyson catch a pass, take a few dribbles, and get the ball to whoever is open?

Can he dribble the ball up the floor at times so Mitchell doesn't have to?

Can he attack, draw the D, and move the ball?

The bar isn't super high ...
Just have Mobley do all that stuff, heck Tyson, go do back cuts and hit open 3s lol he's just our new Okoro but hopefully less frustrating.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#323 » by JonFromVA » Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:41 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Well yeah, i don't want Tyson handling the ball or initiating offense lol because the odds of him setting his teammate up for a bucket are just as likely as him dribbling it off his shoe out of bounds.


When Mitchell gets doubled ... can Tyson catch a pass, take a few dribbles, and get the ball to whoever is open?

Can he dribble the ball up the floor at times so Mitchell doesn't have to?

Can he attack, draw the D, and move the ball?

The bar isn't super high ...
Just have Mobley do all that stuff, heck Tyson, go do back cuts and hit open 3s lol he's just our new Okoro but hopefully less frustrating.


Mobley is going to be featured more with Garland out, but his ball handling has not been great either.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#324 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:52 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
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JonFromVA wrote:
When Mitchell gets doubled ... can Tyson catch a pass, take a few dribbles, and get the ball to whoever is open?

Can he dribble the ball up the floor at times so Mitchell doesn't have to?

Can he attack, draw the D, and move the ball?

The bar isn't super high ...
Just have Mobley do all that stuff, heck Tyson, go do back cuts and hit open 3s lol he's just our new Okoro but hopefully less frustrating.


Mobley is going to be featured more with Garland out, but his ball handling has not been great either.
Yeah but he's worth the investment.

This team goes as Mobley goes. Trying to unlock our 3rd string SF as a secondary ball handler/play maker is a useless endeavor.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#325 » by toooskies » Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:45 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Just have Mobley do all that stuff, heck Tyson, go do back cuts and hit open 3s lol he's just our new Okoro but hopefully less frustrating.


Mobley is going to be featured more with Garland out, but his ball handling has not been great either.
Yeah but he's worth the investment.

This team goes as Mobley goes. Trying to unlock our 3rd string SF as a secondary ball handler/play maker is a useless endeavor.

While you want player development from Mobley you don't ignore player development of everyone else. Avoiding the ball is how you turn Tyson into Isaac Okoro with worse defense.

Unless the plan is to pay everyone indefinitely we're going to want/need Tyson to be a rotation player in two years and he doesn't get there by running to the corner and avoiding the ball. Let him make some mistakes in the regular season.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#326 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:10 pm

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Mobley is going to be featured more with Garland out, but his ball handling has not been great either.
Yeah but he's worth the investment.

This team goes as Mobley goes. Trying to unlock our 3rd string SF as a secondary ball handler/play maker is a useless endeavor.

While you want player development from Mobley you don't ignore player development of everyone else. Avoiding the ball is how you turn Tyson into Isaac Okoro with worse defense.

Unless the plan is to pay everyone indefinitely we're going to want/need Tyson to be a rotation player in two years and he doesn't get there by running to the corner and avoiding the ball. Let him make some mistakes in the regular season.
They let Okoro run point in the 2021 Summer League and the guy still never had the chops to dribble the basketball when it counted.

I'm just all way out on Tyson being a ball handler. Let Proctor give it a try since he handled the ball some in college.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#327 » by JujitsuFlip » Today 2:55 am

https://www.fearthesword.com/cavs-rumors/38811/cavs-starting-lineup-deandre-hunter-sam-merrill-cleveland-cavaliers-nba

The starting 5 is set.

Mitchell
Merrill
Hunter
Mobley
Allen

Sounds like Hunter may have been set to start at 3 before Strus even went down. Garland will obviously shuffle back in for Merrill, once healthy.

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