Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić

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Which loss will hurt more

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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#41 » by benson13 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:55 pm

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BrooklynLopez wrote:Micah and it's not even close...

Mavs play second fiddle to The Cowboys for that city and metro and the meaning gap between the two teams is wider than the grand canyon.


Ok but this Micah guy is not a star QB. He's replaceable.

Luka was the whole Mavs franchise, and they were on the verge of implosion without him. If not for the Flagg miracle they'd be f*cking cooked.

Pass rushing Defenders like Micah who is only the 2nd player since Reggie White to have over 12 sacks in his first 4 yrs are not replaceable but hey I am glad he’s in Green Bay lol


This is the second time I've seen the Reggie White comparison. Reggie had 13, 18, 21, and 18 sacks in his first four seasons. Micah Parsons hasn't had more than 14. He's very good, but it's not like he's the NFL's undisputed edge rushing king, yet he's approaching franchise quarterback money. I'm not even sure he's better than Garrett, Hendrickson, or TJ Watt. So Parsons is definitely replaceable. He's also in a position with limited impact. JJ Watt had the best defensive season in NFL history in 2012, and all the Texans could do was win a weak AFC South.

I will say this though. He's the youngest of the guys I mentioned, and he's locked up for his prime years.

Besides, the Cowboys still have Dak. :lol:

Doncic is unquestionably the bigger loss from a talent standpoint. The guy has top 25 all time potential.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#42 » by Packbuckman » Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:22 pm

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Ok but this Micah guy is not a star QB. He's replaceable.

Luka was the whole Mavs franchise, and they were on the verge of implosion without him. If not for the Flagg miracle they'd be f*cking cooked.

Pass rushing Defenders like Micah who is only the 2nd player since Reggie White to have over 12 sacks in his first 4 yrs are not replaceable but hey I am glad he’s in Green Bay lol


This is the second time I've seen the Reggie White comparison. Reggie had 13, 18, 21, and 18 sacks in his first four seasons. Micah Parsons hasn't had more than 14. He's very good, but it's not like he's the NFL's undisputed edge rushing king, yet he's approaching franchise quarterback money. I'm not even sure he's better than Garrett, Hendrickson, or TJ Watt. So Parsons is definitely replaceable. He's also in a position with limited impact. JJ Watt had the best defensive season in NFL history in 2012, and all the Texans could do was win a weak AFC South.

I will say this though. He's the youngest of the guys I mentioned, and he's locked up for his prime years.

Besides, the Cowboys still have Dak. :lol:

Doncic is unquestionably the bigger loss from a talent standpoint. The guy has top 25 all time potential.


I think Reggie is one of the best defensive players ever and when he came on the packers made us the number one defense. Parsons is not on his level just because of size difference. But your not replacing him unless you get a TJ Watt level player back and there is only a few on those in the league and he is the youngest of those players it instantly makes my packers so much better and has future HOF career trajectory I will take it.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#43 » by Optms » Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:37 pm

I thought this was about Chandler Parsons
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#44 » by Sixers in 4 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:57 pm

Stan wrote:What a ridiculous question



It ended up being asked on First Take this morning. After the trade, it was kind of the obvious question and comparison.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#45 » by og15 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:03 pm

Revived wrote:Micah Parsons had 1 sack in the playoffs in 4 years of being in the league.

Luka carried the Mavs to the finals and came 2 games shy of beating a powerhouse Celtics team for a ring.

How is it even comparable considering how each of them play when the stakes are the highest?

They lost in 5, but even then, 2 games is alot of games shy in a 7 games basketball series lol
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#46 » by RRyder823 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:15 pm

Can we just have a moment for Dallas sports fans for having people running their teams seemingly trying to out do the other for the dumbest trade of the year award

I hate the Cowboys so only a moment but still. Dallas sports fans you got it rough

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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#47 » by Cavsfansince84 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:15 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:I know it's across sports, but which do you rate higher? Which team recovers quicker, the Cowboys or the Mavericks? Which is the worst trade?

I don't really remember a sports city getting decimated like this in a really long time.


Hard to call the Mavs that decimated right now. Also, as good as Parsons may be he's not having near the impact on a fb field that a top 10 player in the nba has on the court.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#48 » by MavsDirk41 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:23 pm

Luka pretty easily but the loss of Parsons will be felt immediately by the Cowboys as he is the only edge rusher who could get to the QB on a consistent basis. Their best edge rusher now is probably Donte Fowler which doesnt say much.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#49 » by Handlez » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:02 pm

Micah because the NBA gave the Mavs Flagg.

If the NBA doesn't do that, easily Luka.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#50 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:07 pm

I mean one team will be a top5 team in their conference with the preseason leader for ROY while the other team will miss the playoffs & gotta pay Dak 55+ million dollars.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#51 » by Lalouie » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:22 pm

micah's not lawrence taylor
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#52 » by Stan » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:58 pm

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Stan wrote:What a ridiculous question



It ended up being asked on First Take this morning. After the trade, it was kind of the obvious question and comparison.

Well the 83-17 poll result is pretty indicative that you can't compare a defensive NFL player, no matter how great, to an NBA superstar/franchise player. This would be akin to comparing LeBron leaving Cleveland to Myles Garrett, one is obviously a much bigger deal than the other.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#53 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:02 pm

It's easily Luka. One player can impact a basketball game much more than a football game, outside maybe the QB.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#54 » by Sixers in 4 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:32 pm

Stan wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:
Stan wrote:What a ridiculous question



It ended up being asked on First Take this morning. After the trade, it was kind of the obvious question and comparison.

Well, the 83-17 poll result is pretty indicative that you can't compare a defensive NFL player, no matter how great, to an NBA superstar/franchise player. This would be akin to comparing LeBron leaving Cleveland to Myles Garrett; one is obviously a much bigger deal than the other.


I agree, but I attempted to write in a way that went beyond just Luka vs. Parsons.

To be honest, the Cowboys will be much more affected by Parsons' departure because they didn't get an AD-caliber player in return. The Luka trade was more devastating in the long term than in the short term; the Mavs have a legit shot this year.

To me the Parsons trade completely closes the Cowboys' window in the near term.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#55 » by MrGoat » Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:35 pm

Luka. The Mavs have very little draft capital or good young prospects to build around Flagg with in the near and intermediate future, the future is not bright for them. And the Cowboys weren't going to win anything even with Micah anyway as long as Jones is at the helm. There's no NFL player who can replicate the importance of a star basketball player like Luka either, even star NFL players are just more replaceable because there are 22 starters not counting special teams. It's that Dak contract that cost the Cowboys Parsons
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Doncic 

Post#56 » by Bad-Thoma » Fri Aug 29, 2025 11:32 pm

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Infinite Llamas wrote:Lukas the worst trade because honestly, I’ve never even heard of that other dude.


Micah Parsons is the best thing to happen to dodgeball since Patches O'Houlihan. His impact on that game far outreaches that of Luka's, such as adding a 6th D, to the 5 Ds of dodgeball (another Dodge, for those wondering).

Dallas unexpectedly trading Parsons to the the Purple Cobras is possibly the most controversial move in the ADAA since Steve the Pirate's trade to Skillz that Killz despite the former's public statement that "Joe's be the only place for Steve".


I have no idea what you are talking about but I'm giving you an and1 for throwing a wrench into the conversation. If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#57 » by stillgotgame » Fri Aug 29, 2025 11:47 pm

zero rings wrote:
BrooklynLopez wrote:Micah and it's not even close...

Mavs play second fiddle to The Cowboys for that city and metro and the meaning gap between the two teams is wider than the grand canyon.


Ok but this Micah guy is not a star QB. He's replaceable.

Luka was the whole Mavs franchise, and they were on the verge of implosion without him. If not for the Flagg miracle they'd be f*cking cooked.


Over the last 4 years when Micah Parsons was on the field for the Cowboys they were statistically the best defense in the NFL. When he was off the field they were the worst.
How’s that for impact from a non QB.

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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#58 » by Sixers in 4 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 11:55 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
zero rings wrote:
BrooklynLopez wrote:Micah and it's not even close...

Mavs play second fiddle to The Cowboys for that city and metro and the meaning gap between the two teams is wider than the grand canyon.


Ok but this Micah guy is not a star QB. He's replaceable.

Luka was the whole Mavs franchise, and they were on the verge of implosion without him. If not for the Flagg miracle they'd be f*cking cooked.


Over the last 4 years when Micah Parsons was on the field for the Cowboys they were statistically the best defense in the NFL. When he was off the field they were the worst.
How’s that for impact from a non QB.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46098256/micah-parsons-trade-2025-nfl-dallas-cowboys-green-bay-packers


Yeah, he completely turns around a defense. People also forget that quarterbacks only play half the time.

Also the Mavericks got Anthony Davis back, who is a top 15 player at worst, and when he's on, he can be top six. Cowboys got two future picks it was purely a business decision. I think this trade, at least in the near term, will hurt the Cowboys more. I would be kind of shocked, to be honest, if the Mavericks didn't win a higher percentage of their games.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#59 » by Basileus777 » Sat Aug 30, 2025 12:21 am

It's Luka, but Parsons is a generational talent at the most important position after QB. He's not just some piece and he's only 26 years old.
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Re: Biggest loss to Dallas Micah Parsons or Luka Dončić 

Post#60 » by benson13 » Sat Aug 30, 2025 4:11 am

Packbuckman wrote:
benson13 wrote:
Packbuckman wrote:Pass rushing Defenders like Micah who is only the 2nd player since Reggie White to have over 12 sacks in his first 4 yrs are not replaceable but hey I am glad he’s in Green Bay lol


This is the second time I've seen the Reggie White comparison. Reggie had 13, 18, 21, and 18 sacks in his first four seasons. Micah Parsons hasn't had more than 14. He's very good, but it's not like he's the NFL's undisputed edge rushing king, yet he's approaching franchise quarterback money. I'm not even sure he's better than Garrett, Hendrickson, or TJ Watt. So Parsons is definitely replaceable. He's also in a position with limited impact. JJ Watt had the best defensive season in NFL history in 2012, and all the Texans could do was win a weak AFC South.

I will say this though. He's the youngest of the guys I mentioned, and he's locked up for his prime years.

Besides, the Cowboys still have Dak. :lol:

Doncic is unquestionably the bigger loss from a talent standpoint. The guy has top 25 all time potential.


I think Reggie is one of the best defensive players ever and when he came on the packers made us the number one defense. Parsons is not on his level just because of size difference. But your not replacing him unless you get a TJ Watt level player back and there is only a few on those in the league and he is the youngest of those players it instantly makes my packers so much better and has future HOF career trajectory I will take it.


It's not limited to just TJ Watt. Are the guys who could replace him falling off trees? No, it's only a handful. Can the Cowboys afford one of them? No, they'd need to find such a player in the draft. Micah Parsons is a very good NFL player now, but he's not even clearly the league's best edge rusher let alone a historically good one.

And OC's have always found a way to mitigate the effects of those guys. Sure, nobody wants to run all their plays to one side, but there's only so much Xavier McKinney can do.

Oh I'm looking forward to football. I'm a season ticket holder, and I always give away my preseason tickets. I'm itching to get to a game, and the home opener is on a monday. :banghead:

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