How would Dwyane Wade's game/style translate now?

[MMyhre]

Current SGA basically, but better raw athlete and not as good defensively

Basically? SGA is 26 years old, has made the All NBA first team in three straight seasons, and has won MVP, and was the MVP runner up at 25 years old. DWade never accomplished any of that or made an NBA first team until he was 27 years old.

Well, this is because he lost the 2007 and 2008 season, where he had a case for being the best player in the world. Thats like Shai getting injured in february of this year and not getting back being fresh until the start of the 26-27 season. That would be a lot of lost awards for Shai as well.

And he lost an MVP to like maybe the best regular season of all time in 08/09 LeBron.. and I know he finished 3rd behind Kobe but that was just some ****, Lakers were **** stacked. 2006-2008 was very doable MVP years for a fresh Wade, he was at 30,6 pts 63,5 + TS 8,1 asts 4,3 rebs 2,3 steals 2 + blocks 6-2 winning record +78 +/- in the month before he got injured in february 2007. Sounds like an MVP calibre player to me and one million % first team all nba to me. So dont be so strong with your statements if you arent willing to dig in and do proper research.

It honestly frustrates me a lot that so many people do not know that Wade was the best player in the world and got injured. Like he drops 40 pts 11 ast 5 blocks 4 steals in a head to head matchup against prime Kobe in the slow paced 2000`s, and you`re talking as if he was some bum compared to Shai. Just disrespectful. And his team was full of lazy veterans that stopped caring and a party culture led by the one and only Shaq, which was why the Heat imploded despite Wade doing his best to carry the load.

[MMyhre]

Wade can absolutely score a lot of points but the question is, will he be efficient enough by sticking to his playing style.
It's not a coincidence that when Wade weirdly had his highest 3pt rate (33.6) at that particular 2009 playoff year, was his HIGHEST TS% at 65%.
Wade has career 3pt rate at 10.6 at a 55.4TS%, most good SGs have higher TS% the past 12 years or so hence the thread title question.

Look at his rTS. Look at FG% around the rim during his career and now. It's not hard to extrapolate that he'd do better in today's environment. Heavier usage of screen entry, better spacing, DHOs, la la la. He'd be more efficient in the sense of raw TS% than he was in his own career. He'd probably be fairly similar in terms of relative efficiency. I doubt he'd suddenly become like a 115 TS+ guy, of course, but...

Wade was a 56.8% TS guy through 2014, and that's with his injured seasons and his rookie year. That's 106 TS+ (or about +3% rTS) through his age-32 season.

He'd be fine in today's environment. Like I said, he wouldn't be league-leadingly dominant most seasons during the RS, but come the PS? We just watched Shai post 30/5/6.5 while shooting 28.3% from 3 en route to the title. Wade would have absolutely been shredding it on that OKC team, you know?

Exactly. Where Shai settles for the midrange, Wade just blows by or forces a play with his superior athleticism/strength/ridiculous ability to penetrate defenses either isolated or by using the pick and roll. Shai has his advantages over Wade for sure, he is much better from the midrange and at taking care of the ball, but Wade is also a more dominating offball defender, better fastcourt player and a better athlete/finisher at the rim/gets better looks at the rim/probably slightly better at getting to the line in todays game, not as good at foulbaiting, but he had his tricks there as well.

[HMFFL]

Current SGA basically, but better raw athlete and not as good defensively

Basically? SGA is 26 years old, has made the All NBA first team in three straight seasons, and has won MVP, and was the MVP runner up at 25 years old. DWade never accomplished any of that or made an NBA first team until he was 27 years old.

Well, this is because he lost the 2007 and 2008 season, where he had a case for being the best player in the world. Thats like Shai getting injured in february of this year and not getting back being fresh until the start of the 26-27 season. That would be a lot of lost awards for Shai as well.

And he lost an MVP to like maybe the best regular season of all time in 08/09 LeBron.. and I know he finished 3rd behind Kobe but that was just some ****, Lakers were **** stacked. 2006-2008 was very doable MVP years for a fresh Wade, he was at 30,6 pts 63,5 + TS 8,1 asts 4,3 rebs 2,3 steals 2 + blocks 6-2 winning record +78 +/- in the month before he got injured in february 2007. Sounds like an MVP calibre player to me and one million % first team all nba to me. So dont be so strong with your statements if you arent willing to dig in and do proper research.

It honestly frustrates me a lot that so many people do not know that Wade was the best player in the world and got injured. Like he drops 40 pts 11 ast 5 blocks 4 steals in a head to head matchup against prime Kobe in the slow paced 2000`s, and you`re talking as if he was some bum compared to Shai. Just disrespectful. And his team was full of lazy veterans that stopped caring and a party culture led by the one and only Shaq, which was why the Heat imploded despite Wade doing his best to carry the load.

That's interesting because I don't remember anyone ever labeling DWade as the best player in the league.

He didn't just lose MVP to Lebron, he lost to Kobe who was the runner up. The voting between Kobe and DWade was close but you're still wrong.

The frustrations others bring upon you are self-inflicted.

[MMyhre]

He's better than Kobe and I would consider D-Wade the second best SG of all time. He had one of the best seasons a guard has ever had with his 2008-2009 season. You could make an argument that his 2008-2009 season was better than Lebron's that year if you wanted to.

He's the closest player to a 88-89 Jordan we ever seen whenever he got hot.

He's taller than we thought, 6'4.75 inches in shoes. Massive wingspan, great first step, great motor and court mapping.

If he wasn't a glass cannon, I think we would be talking about a GOAT level player instead of just being a GOAT level guard.

I don't think there's a guard that is better than Wade right now other than SGA.

Wade’s 09 season was incredible, but I don’t see the argument to put it on par let alone over 09 LeBron.

There is something to be said for the fact that LeBron had superior shooters and a better cast around him for a heliocentric offense. I watched those Heat teams, we were ass. One man army. I will say that LeBron is clearly the better floor general and playmaker though, so there are questions to how well Wade would be able to lead a regular season juggernaut. Considering Wade beasting just as a sophomore in both the 05 and 06 playoffs and getting better and better before the injuries I think he could do it almost as well as LeBron in the regular season. But probably not as good of a floor raiser in the regular season, but he would absolutely be better in the postseason, harder to stop! JJ Barea is not shutting down D-Wade, lol, bit of a meme but still.. that series... traumatized me.

[MMyhre]

Basically? SGA is 26 years old, has made the All NBA first team in three straight seasons, and has won MVP, and was the MVP runner up at 25 years old. DWade never accomplished any of that or made an NBA first team until he was 27 years old.

Well, this is because he lost the 2007 and 2008 season, where he had a case for being the best player in the world. Thats like Shai getting injured in february of this year and not getting back being fresh until the start of the 26-27 season. That would be a lot of lost awards for Shai as well.

And he lost an MVP to like maybe the best regular season of all time in 08/09 LeBron.. and I know he finished 3rd behind Kobe but that was just some ****, Lakers were **** stacked. 2006-2008 was very doable MVP years for a fresh Wade, he was at 30,6 pts 63,5 + TS 8,1 asts 4,3 rebs 2,3 steals 2 + blocks 6-2 winning record +78 +/- in the month before he got injured in february 2007. Sounds like an MVP calibre player to me and one million % first team all nba to me. So dont be so strong with your statements if you arent willing to dig in and do proper research.

It honestly frustrates me a lot that so many people do not know that Wade was the best player in the world and got injured. Like he drops 40 pts 11 ast 5 blocks 4 steals in a head to head matchup against prime Kobe in the slow paced 2000`s, and you`re talking as if he was some bum compared to Shai. Just disrespectful. And his team was full of lazy veterans that stopped caring and a party culture led by the one and only Shaq, which was why the Heat imploded despite Wade doing his best to carry the load.

That's interesting because I don't remember anyone ever labeling DWade as the best player in the league.

He didn't just lose MVP to Lebron, he lost to Kobe who was the runner up. The voting between Kobe and DWade was close but you're still wrong.

The frustrations others bring upon you are self-inflicted.

I mentioned that, so take your time to read properly next time. Well, here is an article for you "buddy". https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2493982

I think your frustrations are higher right now.

[HMFFL]

Well, this is because he lost the 2007 and 2008 season, where he had a case for being the best player in the world. Thats like Shai getting injured in february of this year and not getting back being fresh until the start of the 26-27 season. That would be a lot of lost awards for Shai as well.

And he lost an MVP to like maybe the best regular season of all time in 08/09 LeBron.. and I know he finished 3rd behind Kobe but that was just some ****, Lakers were **** stacked. 2006-2008 was very doable MVP years for a fresh Wade, he was at 30,6 pts 63,5 + TS 8,1 asts 4,3 rebs 2,3 steals 2 + blocks 6-2 winning record +78 +/- in the month before he got injured in february 2007. Sounds like an MVP calibre player to me and one million % first team all nba to me. So dont be so strong with your statements if you arent willing to dig in and do proper research.

It honestly frustrates me a lot that so many people do not know that Wade was the best player in the world and got injured. Like he drops 40 pts 11 ast 5 blocks 4 steals in a head to head matchup against prime Kobe in the slow paced 2000`s, and you`re talking as if he was some bum compared to Shai. Just disrespectful. And his team was full of lazy veterans that stopped caring and a party culture led by the one and only Shaq, which was why the Heat imploded despite Wade doing his best to carry the load.

That's interesting because I don't remember anyone ever labeling DWade as the best player in the league.

He didn't just lose MVP to Lebron, he lost to Kobe who was the runner up. The voting between Kobe and DWade was close but you're still wrong.

The frustrations others bring upon you are self-inflicted.

I mentioned that, so take your time to read properly next time. Well, here is an article for you "buddy". https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2493982

I think your frustrations are higher right now.

"The Heat are champs, in large part to Dwayne Wade. So where will they go from here?"

I ironically remember that espn article. At the time it the heading was missing a certain teammate of Wade's. Shaq

Just like others in the thread they give Wade the glory.

[76Shots]

That's interesting because I don't remember anyone ever labeling DWade as the best player in the league.

He didn't just lose MVP to Lebron, he lost to Kobe who was the runner up. The voting between Kobe and DWade was close but you're still wrong.

The frustrations others bring upon you are self-inflicted.

I mentioned that, so take your time to read properly next time. Well, here is an article for you "buddy". https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2493982

I think your frustrations are higher right now.

"The Heat are champs, in large part to Dwayne Wade. So where will they go from here?"

I ironically remember that espn article. At the time it the heading was missing a certain teammate of Wade's. Shaq

Just like others in the thread they give Wade the glory.

Shaq won Finals MVP that year? I must not be remembering correctly. I could have sworn somebody else won it.

[MMyhre]

That's interesting because I don't remember anyone ever labeling DWade as the best player in the league.

He didn't just lose MVP to Lebron, he lost to Kobe who was the runner up. The voting between Kobe and DWade was close but you're still wrong.

The frustrations others bring upon you are self-inflicted.

I mentioned that, so take your time to read properly next time. Well, here is an article for you "buddy". https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2493982

I think your frustrations are higher right now.

"The Heat are champs, in large part to Dwayne Wade. So where will they go from here?"

I ironically remember that espn article. At the time it the heading was missing a certain teammate of Wade's. Shaq

Just like others in the thread they give Wade the glory.

Are you being serious? Shaq averaged 13 points in the finals. To the 33 of Wade. 18 pts on 57 TS % for the whole playoffs. There is absolutely zero case to be made for Shaq being better than Wade by mid 2006. There is a reason the Heat lost in 2005 to the Pistons when Wade got hurt. Shaq had a plus minus of 25, Wade 134. Wade almost had as many blocks as Shaq, almost five times the steals, over 3x times the amount of assists, and 5 turnovers more despite carrying a very heavy offensive load for the whole postseason and even more where it matters most in the finals.

Shaq is certainly a contributor, but my goodness did he fall from grace quickly this year due to his sloppy ass lifestyle.

[tamaraw08]

wouldn't be lighting it up at the absolute apex of everything the entire time, but that's very different than just going straight to "he'd suck."

29% in his career from 3pt range and average TS%. He's the Iverson of shooting guards. He wouldn't fit in the current NBA.

Overfocusing on 3P% is a little ignorant, though. And no, he's not the Iverson of shooting guards. He was actually efficient in his own time, and AI wasn't. Wade was also considerably more powerfully built and had significant reach, so he played quite a bit taller than his list height as well.

He would absolutely fit fine in this league. He had the power and speed to attack just fine in today's environment. You don't want to go under a screen and give him that head of steam, and he was an excellent passer. Like I said before, I doubt he'd be challenging Shai or Luka or Joker as the top guy in the league, for sure, but he'd still be an excellent choice.

Don't forget, Demar DeRozan managed 4 straight regular seasons of 59.0 - 60.3% TS. Don't kid yourself; Wade would easily be a 59-60% TS guy with his speed and the shooting ability he did have, coupled to his other physical tools.

[/quote]

There is a difference between the styles and strengths of DDR and Wade particularly the ability of DDR to hit from 10-16 feet at a higher accuracy at about 48% (from 2019-)as compared to Wade who had a career 38% from there. And yes I know Wade is a lot more athletic and can get to the line more.
and it is my opinion that DDR is more of an exception, so my question is...
Is there another SG who has a very low 3pt attempt rate that thrived in the league in the past 15 years?

[tamaraw08]

Right, but the counterpoint is "can score" and "is worth the touches to score" aren't the same thing, is sort of the point. Stackhouse had a near-30 ppg season once, but that wasn't the hottest idea ever, you know? And there are plenty of guys who score in bunches and really shouldn't.



Wade had some periods where he could hit, sure. And like I said in my earlier post, I think he'd generally do pretty well in today's environment, he just wouldn't be a legit first-tier MVP candidate.

Wade can absolutely score a lot of points but the question is, will he be efficient enough by sticking to his playing style.
It's not a coincidence that when Wade weirdly had his highest 3pt rate (33.6) at that particular 2009 playoff year, was his HIGHEST TS% at 65%.
Wade has career 3pt rate at 10.6 at a 55.4TS%, most good SGs have higher TS% the past 12 years or so hence the thread title question.

And even when Wade chooses not to attempt 3s, he's going to get to the free-throw line. He averaged 9.9 free-throw attempts from 2004-05 to 2009-10 seasons. And when they won the championship in 2006, Wade averaged 10.9 free-throw attempts in the playoffs.
I know that's a different era, but even today he'll get the line more than most, or more than everyone...

But also the 3-pointers will be a big weapon for him, considering we've already seen him shoot 40% in the playoffs when attempting 7.4 per game.
Wade is a hybrid of SGA and ANT.

Well the main reason I picked TS% over EFG is mainly because I feel it's a more accurate stat already taking FT attempts into consideration unlike EFG.
If we use just EFG, then even the just the good SG's who shoots 3's right now will look better than Wade (career 49.5)

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Current SGA basically, but better raw athlete and not as good defensively

Basically? SGA is 26 years old, has made the All NBA first team in three straight seasons, and has won MVP, and was the MVP runner up at 25 years old. DWade never accomplished any of that or made an NBA first team until he was 27 years old.

Well, this is because he lost the 2007 and 2008 season, where he had a case for being the best player in the world. Thats like Shai getting injured in february of this year and not getting back being fresh until the start of the 26-27 season. That would be a lot of lost awards for Shai as well.

And he lost an MVP to like maybe the best regular season of all time in 08/09 LeBron.. and I know he finished 3rd behind Kobe but that was just some ****, Lakers were **** stacked. 2006-2008 was very doable MVP years for a fresh Wade, he was at 30,6 pts 63,5 + TS 8,1 asts 4,3 rebs 2,3 steals 2 + blocks 6-2 winning record +78 +/- in the month before he got injured in february 2007. Sounds like an MVP calibre player to me and one million % first team all nba to me. So dont be so strong with your statements if you arent willing to dig in and do proper research.

It honestly frustrates me a lot that so many people do not know that Wade was the best player in the world and got injured. Like he drops 40 pts 11 ast 5 blocks 4 steals in a head to head matchup against prime Kobe in the slow paced 2000`s, and you`re talking as if he was some bum compared to Shai. Just disrespectful. And his team was full of lazy veterans that stopped caring and a party culture led by the one and only Shaq, which was why the Heat imploded despite Wade doing his best to carry the load.

This is a good point. HMFFL's take doesn't upset me because its the normie take anyways, its like being upset someone thinks Allen Iverson is a top 10 player of all time, it is what it is, some people just don't care enough to dig deeper.

Wade's a weird case because he's like half a Penny or Grant Hill story. Whereas those guys looked like top 25 or better players of all time who got hurt just as they were entering their prime and never returned to form, Wade got hurt, lost 2 prime seasons, but bounced back and put up 3 more true prime seasons before his body started to fail him again (he had his meniscus removed in college, which is why he had persistent knee problems later in his career). So we sort of got to see him at his full potential, but it was constantly getting interrupted. First by injury, then even when he bounced back the roster was terrible because Miami was saving for 2010, then when the stars could align, two things happened, the Heat somehow got the 1 player who was better than him to join their team, and Wade's knees started creaking again the very next year.

If you rewatch the 2011 Finals highlights, beyond Dirk's storybook ending, the most dominant player in that series was Wade. Woulda coulda shoulda, but its not hard to envision a reality where if he doesn't get his meniscus removed in college, the Heat stay competitive after 2006, reload a bit the next couple of seasons, and he goes on to win a couple more championships as the clear lead guy (prime Shaq was still fresh in people's memory in 2006 even if he was already a shell of himself by the second half of that season). Instead, he loses 2 prime years to injury, loses 2 more to the Heat playing the long game of roster construction, and loses the remainder of his prime to playing in the shadow of LeBron and his own knees catching back up to him.

(to play devil's advocate, I'm a huge Heat and Wade fan but I think its obvious he went hard with PED's to make the dramatic comeback he did in 2008. It is what it is though, I think more people do it than we'd ever care to know in the league, but I'm not going to play dumb on that)

To echo how much of a shame it is the timing of the 06-07 injury was, the Heat were without Shaq most of that season up to that point and Wade was carrying with Antoine Walker or an extremely aged and post kidney surgery Alonzo Mourning as his second best player. He got Jason Kapono a big contract with Toronto too, Raptors fans probably hate him for that. And Wade was destroying the league. Then Shaq comes back, the Heat go on a tear going into the ASB and he's looking like the clear best player in the league with his play, the Heat hitting their stride and him coming off that Finals performance (in fairness to Dirk, he and the Mavs were having a great year too).

First game after the break, he's doing his thing, and a total freak injury where Shane Battier is fighting him for a rebound and pulls his arm right out of its socket. Funny that Battier ended up being a key part of the future championship teams, I guess he's redeemed somewhat in Heat fans' eyes, but I'll never forget how much that injury sucked.

Fast forward, Wade rushes back for the playoffs but is incredibly rusty, messes up the chemistry because the team had gotten used to playing two months without him, and doesn't have his normal lift because his knee is starting to act up. Then that summer instead of getting the knee surgery he needed, he has to focus on rehabbing his torn labrum due to rushing back for the playoffs. Gets back late for the 07-08 season and plays the year on a flat tire, you can always tell highlights from that season because its the only young Wade highlights where his hops are as bad as old Wade highlights. Then shuts it down early when that season turns into a disaster for various reasons (Riley thinking Ricky Davis could be an upgrade over Antoine Walker was a big one, he ended up being a sidegrade that cost the Heat future draft capital). And finally gets the knee surgery he should have had the prior offseason, then rehabs like a madman (probably starts PED's at this time as well), and looks like the best player in the world on the redeem team.

Its a complicated history though, so like I said, it doesn't anger me that people who weren't Heat fans or following this stuff just dismiss it and assume Shaq was Lakers Shaq, or all the details and nuance/timing of Wade's injuries and resurgence.

[bonita_the_frog]

Wade can absolutely score a lot of points but the question is, will he be efficient enough by sticking to his playing style.
It's not a coincidence that when Wade weirdly had his highest 3pt rate (33.6) at that particular 2009 playoff year, was his HIGHEST TS% at 65%.
Wade has career 3pt rate at 10.6 at a 55.4TS%, most good SGs have higher TS% the past 12 years or so hence the thread title question.

And even when Wade chooses not to attempt 3s, he's going to get to the free-throw line. He averaged 9.9 free-throw attempts from 2004-05 to 2009-10 seasons. And when they won the championship in 2006, Wade averaged 10.9 free-throw attempts in the playoffs.
I know that's a different era, but even today he'll get the line more than most, or more than everyone...

But also the 3-pointers will be a big weapon for him, considering we've already seen him shoot 40% in the playoffs when attempting 7.4 per game.
Wade is a hybrid of SGA and ANT.

Well the main reason I picked TS% over EFG is mainly because I feel it's a more accurate stat already taking FT attempts into consideration unlike EFG.
If we use just EFG, then even the just the good SG's who shoots 3's right now will look better than Wade (career 49.5)

Wade's only "weakness" is 3-point shooting, and he's still a better shooter than most SGs in the playoffs-
The 2009 Playoffs Wade attempted 7.1 threes per game and made .360
In the 2010 Playoffs Wade attempted 7.4 threes per game and made .405
The most Wade ever attempted in the playoffs other than that, was 2.8 threes per game in the 2017 playoffs and he made .353

Most "good" shooting guards are not reliable in the playoffs.
Wade is WAY more reliable than SGA was in this year's playoffs, and Tatum and Doncic who shoot their worst in the NBA Finals...

[DreamTeam09]

I mean, no. No, he obviously wouldn't.

If he could stay any kind of healthy, he'd be just fine. He wouldn't be lighting it up at the absolute apex of everything the entire time, but that's very different than just going straight to "he'd suck."

29% in his career from 3pt range and average TS%. He's the Iverson of shooting guards. He wouldn't fit in the current NBA.

Let me fix that for you: 5-out offense, high ball screen, dribble hand off, flare screens, drag screen, double screen, double drag screen, staggered screen, any moving screen (technically illegal but never called), double staggered screen (redundant), double staggered drag screen (probably something Warriors do), double staggered drag moving screen + gather step to open 3p and technical foul called on defense (Bogut special), corner 3's off flare for getting that sweet efficiency benchmark with easiest perimeter shot in game, get action, pin down screen, etc. Obviously, some of those don't actually exist (in theory) and I was just joking around, but I hope you see the point. Wade would be getting a modern shot diet with modern matchup hunts baked-in to whatever scheme his coaching staff would build around him. He's not going to be inefficient. His rTS will about the same as it was in his prime.

I really don't understand why ppl look at 3pt% & TS% & then come to a conclusion if that player is good or not based off of those 2 statistics.
Why would anyone even wanna operate like that, it leaves soon much up in the air, it takes the entire game of basketball right out of the conversation.

[DreamTeam09]

Of the top 20 3pt shooters only 11th KD / towns 16th / 18th - Jokic were all-stars

Norm was 17th

Best TS% in 24/25

Jokic #5 / Shai #15 / Mobley #18 / were AS

Do with that information as you wish

[GrindCityHustle]

Him and Gilbert Arenas go back and forth for me

Gil was a much better shooter. Gil was shooting 3 pointers at a high clip in an era before it became a thing
Wade a better defender and wasn't always about ISO plays
Both could slash but Gil was more fun to watch to me.

People will laugh but Gil without the antics and health problems along with playing along Shaq would have easily put him right alongside Wade legacy wise. In 2k Wade was brick city from 3 so he is less fun to play as for some reason even though at the end of the day he gets an edge over Gil because of how things played out.

Wade was great and deserves his flowers. He is probably the perfect 1b player ever to win a title even though he was 1a when his team needed him and being able to do both well is difficult.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Him and Gilbert Arenas go back and forth for me

Gil was a much better shooter. Gil was shooting 3 pointers at a high clip in an era before it became a thing
Wade a better defender and wasn't always about ISO plays
Both could slash but Gil was more fun to watch to me.

People will laugh but Gil without the antics and health problems along with playing along Shaq would have easily put him right alongside Wade legacy wise. In 2k Wade was brick city from 3 so he is less fun to play as for some reason even though at the end of the day he gets an edge over Gil because of how things played out.

Wade was great and deserves his flowers. He is probably the perfect 1b player ever to win a title even though he was 1a when his team needed him and being able to do both well is difficult.

Its not even close between the two, even Gilbert has admitted as much now that he's retired. He tells a great story during an interview with Wade himself, where he had said something in the papers dismissing him (Wade), and his friend told him that the quote got put in the papers. So Gilbert tried to call Wade before that game and say the media was just blowing it out of proportion, then Wade destroyed him head to head. Look at the all-time record of Wade vs Gilbert head to head matchups, its something absurd like 20-1 or something including playoffs.

I'm not saying Gilbert was a bad player either, but he was far more one dimensional than Wade. His one dimension would help him in today's game admittedly, but not enough to narrow the gap between them as players, he wasn't as good of a creator for himself or teammmates and was far inferior as a defender.

[Lalouie]

has a pro team sport been more affected by rules changes than basketball???

even down to body type!...

if chet played in the mid 70s he would have been FORCED to add weight and muscle like walton. they would've broken him like a twig

[MarcusBrody]

has a pro team sport been more affected by rules changes than basketball???

even down to body type!...

if chet played in the mid 70s he would have been FORCED to add weight and muscle like walton. they would've broken him like a twig

The rules have (barely) changed since Wade's prime. What's the issue here?

Chet's isn't heavy/strong enough to guard big centers in the post now, but he still makes himself a valuable player and can use his length to bother stronger players even after they've bumped him out of position. I'm sure it would have been in the 70s. Kareem only outweighed him by 15 lbs or so while being listed at an inch taller and was the runaway greatest of the decade.

[Sign5]

Him and Gilbert Arenas go back and forth for me

Gil was a much better shooter. Gil was shooting 3 pointers at a high clip in an era before it became a thing
Wade a better defender and wasn't always about ISO plays
Both could slash but Gil was more fun to watch to me.

People will laugh but Gil without the antics and health problems along with playing along Shaq would have easily put him right alongside Wade legacy wise. In 2k Wade was brick city from 3 so he is less fun to play as for some reason even though at the end of the day he gets an edge over Gil because of how things played out.

This post is almost the equivalent of:

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[JRoy]

Him and Gilbert Arenas go back and forth for me

Gil was a much better shooter. Gil was shooting 3 pointers at a high clip in an era before it became a thing
Wade a better defender and wasn't always about ISO plays
Both could slash but Gil was more fun to watch to me.

People will laugh but Gil without the antics and health problems along with playing along Shaq would have easily put him right alongside Wade legacy wise. In 2k Wade was brick city from 3 so he is less fun to play as for some reason even though at the end of the day he gets an edge over Gil because of how things played out.

This post is almost the equivalent of:

Watch on YouTube

“In 2k…”